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Steve Schmidt (Sschmidt) Intermediate Member Username: Sschmidt Post Number: 305 Registered: 3-2017 |
Luther, St.L XX:925: "That blind, mad spirit does not know that meritum Christiand distributio meriti are two distinct things; so he mixes them up. Christ once for all merited and purchased for us remission of sins on the cross; but he distributes the same, wherever He is, at all hours and all places, as Luke writes, ch. 24:46 f.: 'Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer and rise from the dead the third day [there you have his merit] and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name [there you have His merit's distribution].' Therefore we say that in the Lord's Supper is forgiveness of sins, not because of the eating, or that Christ there merits or purchases remission of sins, but because of the word, whereby He distributes this purchased remission among us and says: 'This is My body, which is given for you.' Here you hear that we eat the body as given for us; and while eating it, we hear and believe this; so then forgiveness of sins is there distributed, which was purchased, however, on the Cross." (F. Pieper, 3:375) "In short, he who does not believe that by His substitutional satisfaction Christ accomplished the complete reconciliation of all mankind (the objective reconciliation) has lost the thing a really justifying and saving faith believes in (its object); for him, accordingly, the Christian Church is no more the congregation of believers, but an association of the supplementers of the merit of Christ." (F. Pieper, 3:405) |
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GJ - Anyone starting with F. Pieper or his brother August Pieper will end up "proving" OJ and SJ all over the place.
CFW Walther made sure his successor was a man he chose himself, and he rigged the votes accordingly. See L. Fuerbringer on the selection of F. Pieper.
Thus Jay Webber proves his case with Rambach the Pietist and Quistorp, an even more obscure Pietist.
But Luther always treated the Atonement this way. Christ is all forgiveness. But of course.
The folly of the rationalistic Pietists, then and now, is their merging of Justification by Faith with the Atonement - creating (in their tiny brains)
- The Justification of the World,
- God absolving the sins of the World
- General Justification
- Objective Justification, and
- Universal Objective Justification.
The clearest proof of their error is their refusal to post any argument in favor of Luther's Biblical and the Book of Concord confessional stance - Justification by Faith. They cannot even say the words they dread so much.
