"Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into thinking it would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the data actually came back it wasn’t helping people that much. Other things that we didn’t put that much money into and didn’t put much staff against is stuff our people are crying out for."
The answer is here.
His Eminence is quoted here.
Several thin-skinned WELS members need to work on reading comprehension. They are howling that Hybels is not on the clergy list. Someone who leads WELS, as Hybels certainly is doing now, is a WELS leader. Another WELS leader is C. Peter Wagner, who said, "Church Growth principles do not work."
Paul Kelm does DePere. Dan Kelm did Divine Savior, Indianapolis. Both are Willow Creek clones. Dan bragged that he modeled his service after WC.
This story is hilariously funny because Willow Creek skimmed all that money off clergy to teach them how to "do church." The Love Shack is only about 90 miles away, so it was only a matter of time before they were trained too. Proof is that American mission pastors in WELS were given 100% scholarships by WELS to be trained at Willow Creek.
If Hybels is training WELS clergy, he is a WELS leader. If C. Peter Wagner and Leonard Sweet are training WELS clergy, they are WELS leaders. So is Martin Marty, once dissed by WELS for being ecumenical-liberal.
More importantly, if The Love Shack admires and emulates these false teachers, the false teachers are definitely the true leaders of the Wisconsin sect.
After years of coveting Willow Creek, copying Willow Creek, cloning Willow Creek, WELS leaders should confess how many millions they have wasted.
The Missouri Synod, under Al Barry, had a large number of congregations belonging to the Willow Creek Association. Unionistic? They did something about it at the Purple Palace. After I mentioned this in Christian News, the list was no longer available (Ichabod effect - the apostates duck and hide).
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Friday, November 2, 2007
Which WELS Leader Said This?
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