DK's Offer For the Chicanery Convention Tomorrow

I need a stretch Lincoln for the quotations.

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Well,
IJ Reilly, I'm not sure if you're Confessional or a C&Cer so take this how you want:

It's better to do something about a problem than to sit around and gripe. I'm not saying anything about you or readers of this site, but there are A LOT of Confessional WELSians that just gripe. That's part of the reason the WELS is where it is; because the people who actually saw the problems just complained and stuck their heads in the sand of "it'll never happen to us".

What've you done Reilly? I've informed at least 15 people (five pastors)about UOJ, most of whom have done the applicable homework (easier thanks to Dr. Jackson) and come away with the belief that UOJ actually does challenge the efficacy of the Word. Beyond that, I've been writing to old friends who were led astray (towards Enthusiasm) with me back at WLC. I'm engaging people in conversation about the problems in the WELS and LCMS, asking hard questions of people who've been given authority.

I'm not "oh so proud" of anything I've done in this regard. It's small potatoes. But at least I go beyond complaining. And if I want to go pass out fliers to C&Cers at their little convention (and maybe paint my van) more power to me.

Chronic gripers are marginalized and petty.

Dr. Jackson's Lincoln is truly the Uber-Swank and house paint would sully it. Must be my van.

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Howdy Professor!

If you could write me a one paragraph statement about how Church and Change wants to destroy the Efficacy of the Word I would appreciate it.

I'm going to go down to the C&C conference and pass out fliers. I'd really like to engage some of these folks in conversation and give them a flier with a concise summary on it.

I'd really love to have a group of Confessional WELS folks to join me. I can fit about ten people in my van. Maybe if we don't make a spectacle (will a painted van) people will be more likely to join me.

Email me if you're interested in joining me. My goal is win over our fellow Christians and to fight the Enthusiasm that's infecting the WELS.

email Dave at
folkright@gmail.com

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GJ - Here is my paragraph. Copy and paste as you see fit:

Church and Change began--and still exists--to promote the false doctrine and unionism of Fuller Seminary and its offspring in WELS. This group hired Baptist Ed Stetzer to teach WELS members and pastors the Word of God - only the intervention of the District Presidents stopped them. Earlier they hired Leonard Sweet! This organization trusts human methods rather than the efficacy of the Word. They are eager to replace Biblical worship with rock entertainment, as if people could be sneaked into the Kingdom of God rather than converted by the Gospel Promises. They believe coaching, a current business fad, will make the church grow. They despise the Means of Grace, as proven by their loathing of the liturgy and Creeds, their refusal to serve Holy Communion at Sunday services, and their blatant copying of the sermons of false teachers: Mark Driscoll, Craig Groeschel, Bill Hybels. The leaders of this group have knelt at the feet of false teachers at Fuller Seminary, Denver, and Gordon Conwell to earn their DMins in Church Growth. They worship with false teachers such as Andy Stanley, Ed Stetzer, and Mark Driscoll.

KJV 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

KJV Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

"Wohl scheint auf den ersten Blick die ganze Differenz recht unbedeutend; aber in Wahrheit gibt sich hier die gefaehrliche Richtung der Pietisten zu erkennen, das Leben ueber die Lehre, die Heiligung ueber die Rechtfertigung und die Froemmigkeit nicht als Folge, sondern als Bedingung der Erleuchtung zu setzen also eine Art Synergismus und Pelagianismus einzufuehren. (At first glance, the total difference seems absolutely paltry, but in truth the dangerous direction of Pietism is made apparent: life over doctrine, sanctification over justification, and piety not as a consequence but declared as a stipulation of enlightenment, leading to a kind of synergism and Pelagianism.)" Adolf Hoenecke, Evangelische-Lutherische Dogmatik, 4 vols., ed., Walter and Otto Hoenecke, Milwaukee: Northwestern Publishing House, 1912, III, p. 253.

Andy Stanley is already recruiting Ski, Glende, Katie, et al. for the Drive 10 Babtist Rockapalooza.

Salvation Army - Holiness Denomination

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The Salvation Army is Holiness denomination. It is not merely a charitable organization but a heterodox denomination.

The Arminian theology of Methodism can be seen in the Salvation Army's teaching that election or predestination depends on the foreseen conduct of the individual. Lutherans teach that there was nothing in us to cause God to choose any of us; our election is caused by God's grace and God's grace alone. Lutherans place the primary emphasis in theology on what God has done for us by justifying us, declaring us not guilty for the sake of Jesus who was condemned in our place.

The Salvation Army places its main theological emphasis on sanctification, the holy life that we are to live. Like Methodism and the other Holiness Churches, the Salvation Army teaches perfectionism or entire sanctification. Lutherans teach that the Christian will remain both sinner and saint until he dies. The Christian will struggle against sin until at death he is freed forever from sin and sin's consequences.

Lutherans teach that the Holy Spirit creates and sustains faith only through the means of grace, the gospel in Word and Sacraments. The Salvation Army historically has taught that the Holy Spirit works directly on the human heart apart from the means of grace.

Among Christian denominations the Salvation Army seems to be unique in not practicing either Baptism or the Lord's Supper. Lutherans place a strong emphasis on these two sacraments as means through which the Holy Spirit works to create or strengthen faith and brings us the forgiveness of sins, life, and salvation.

Since the Salvation Army is a heterodox church body, we cannot readily separate their charitable work from their false teachings. For that reason we cannot support such a group (2 John 10-11). Although we might admire the zeal of the Salvation Army to help the downtrodden, we cannot participate in that work with them. We might rather want to support those charities operated by the Wisconsin Synod, ELS, and congregations in our fellowship, or charities that are not connected to any religious organization.

Responsive Reading for Church and Chicanery Opening Worship Entertainment

The Hybels and Parlow/Limmer emails can be found here.Parlow has a DMin from Denver (hint - not a Lutheran school).

Female Worship Leader: From: jp (this is how John Parlow sends his messages)

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:47 PM

Subject: Letter from Pastor Limmer (not sure how Limmer got added, but he was)

Dear St. Mark Family,

I have never been an early riser all my life. And so for someone like me to be tossing and turning two hours before sunrise, after a fourteen hour work day at St. Mark...well that is worth trying to figure out.

Chicaneries: ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Hybels

To: enews@arrow.willowcreek.org

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:08 PM

Subject: Sleepless in Barrington (from Bill Hybels)

Dear Enews Family,

I have been an early riser all my life. It goes back to growing up in a family that owned a fresh produce business. But for someone like me to be tossing and turning two hours before sunrise, after a sixteen hour work day at Willow...well that is worth trying to figure out.

Female Worship Leader: Jet lag? Nope. I have been in the same time zone for weeks. Family trouble? Nope. My family still graciously puts up with all my quirks. Anxiety? The world has its share of troubles, and I like many of you, have felt the need to pray more fervently for so many who are suffering. But after reflecting on that for a little while, I knew that wasn't the root cause of my sleeplessness.

Chicaneries: Jet lag? Nope. I have been in the same time zone for weeks. Family trouble? Nope. We recently returned from one of the most enjoyable vacations we have ever had. Anxiety? The world has its share of troubles, and I like many of you, have felt the need to pray more fervently for so many who are suffering. But after reflecting on that for a little while, I knew that wasn't the root cause of my sleeplessness.

Female Worship Leader: Being the seasoned spiritual leader that I am, I finally resorted to a formula that has been a secret embarrassment to me for decades: "When all else fails...turn to God and ask for help." When I quietly breathed a prayer for insight from above, the Spirit whispered, "It is old fashioned excitement, Bill.

Chicaneries: Being the seasoned spiritual leader that I am, I finally resorted to a formula that has been a secret embarrassment to me for decades: "When all else fails...turn to God and ask for help." When I quietly breathed a prayer for insight from above, the Spirit whispered, "It is old fashioned excitement, Bill.

Female Worship Leader: You felt it in years past when Holy Week services were filled with a sense of anticipation and wonder and you are feeling it again now. It is a good thing. In fact, why not revel in the fact that you have been doing something for fifteen years and you love it so much that you can't sleep come ‘game day’." Duh.

Chicaneries: You felt it in years past when Good Friday and Easter services were filled with a sense of anticipation and wonder and you are feeling it again now. It is a good thing. In fact, why not revel in the fact that you have been doing something for thirty years and you love it so much that you can't sleep come ‘game day’." Duh.

Female Worship Leader: Last night I prayed for Scott as I knew he would be putting on the finishing touches for the three Maundy Thursday Services. And today I'm contemplating the final rehearsals for our Good Friday services, and felt a sharp pang of sadness that it is not being broadcast all over the world. It was that touching to me. I was completely convinced that any and all who experience it will be moved to tears as I was, and as irresistibly drawn to the Crucified One. The Tenebrae services are at 12:30, 3:30 and 6:30 tomorrow.

Chicaneries: Last night I sat through the final rehearsals for our Good Friday services, and felt a sharp pang of sadness that it is not being broadcast all over the world. It was that touching to me. I was completely convinced that any and all who experience it will be moved to tears as I was, and as irresistibly drawn to the Crucified One. The first service starts tonight at 7:00 p.m. (And then we get to do it three more times on Friday--at 4:00, 6:00, and 8:00 p.m.!)

Female Worship Leader: Earlier in the day John, a few others and I reviewed the Easter message. (Remember we are at West High, 966 Shawano Ave. at 7:30 and 9:30 a.m.) As the group left my office, I sat with John and we grieved over the fact that we would only be having eight Holy Week services! All John and I could talk about was the redemptive potential of the next four days. Who knows what God might do--in how many lives?!

Chicaneries: Earlier in the day God had graciously given my Easter message to me, after which the team and I reviewed the Easter program one final time. As the group left my office, I sat alone for just a moment and grieved over the fact that we would only be able to do it seven times! At the end of my workday Greg Ferguson and I did our typical run, but at a ridiculously fast pace, because all we could talk about was the redemptive potential of the next four days. Who knows what God might do--in how many lives?!

Female Worship Leader: Friends, don't miss anything these next few days. Don't miss private promptings from God regarding what He wants you to reflect on this Holy Week. Don't miss a single opportunity to ask additional friends and family to come with you to the services. Don't miss the teaching moments with young children that this season affords. Miss a little sleep...but don't miss anything else. Deal?

Bill

Chicaneries: Friends, don't miss anything these next few days. Don't miss private promptings from God regarding what He wants you to reflect on this Holy Week. Don't miss a single opportunity to ask additional friends and family to come with you to the services. Don't miss the teaching moments with young children that this season affords. Miss a little sleep...but don't miss anything else. Deal?

Bill

Female Worship Leader: [Milwaukee -- Cardinal Stritch Coll

(F) Rev Bill F Limmer

The Point of Grace, Milwaukee WI

414-963-2047

pastorbill@thepointofgrace.net

Wisconsin Lutheran Student Center Worship Facility]

Chicaneries: To find out about this weekend's service or what's happening around Willow Creek Community Church, visit http://www.willowcreek.org.

To unsubscribe from E-news, send a blank message to enews@willowcreek.org with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.

If you have questions about Willow Creek, you can e-mail info@willowcreek.org or call (847)765-5000. Thank you.

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GJ - To show the extent of the plagiarism from Willow Creek, I made the Parlow/Limmer message the female worship leader's words. I repeated the same passages in the EARLIER Hybels email on the same topic. Tis truly amazing how Limmer/Parlow had the same restlessness, the same grieving, the same emotions. Yes, even grief can be plagiarized in the last days of an insane, old world.

Bill Hybels runs the Willow Creek franchise, which Parlow/Kelm joined, yet no one has a problem with a WELS church belonging!

 

Bill Limmer was learned how to copy and paste at St. Mark Willow Creek.

 

Parlow attended the Babtist Drive 08 conference with Ski, Katie, and others from WELS.

When Seminaries Rot, Congregations Pay the Price:Two Chicaneries Advised The Sausage Factory

Randy Hunter has a female worship leader, so he gets a vicar--thanks DP--to spread the apostasy.

WELS used to say about the LCMS:

1. The fish rots at the head.
   
2. The seminaries go first.
   
3. The worst liberals are in the headquarters city.

That would never happen to WELS, they imagined, because they had watchmen on the towers of Zion, to borrow a phrase from Walther. To honor the latest and perhaps last convention of Church and Change, let us recall some horrifying facts.

1. Two of the most notorious C&C members--a competitive list, needless to say--have advised The Sausage Factory on how to improve seminary education! Those Chicanery leaders are Paul Calvin Kelm and Kudu Don Patterson. Kinda like Planned Parenthood advising Lutherans For Life.
   
2. David Valleskey and Frosty Bivens worked together to promote the Church Growth Movement, coming out of the Fuller closet rather early. Valleskey became VP of The Factory and Bivens became a professor and VP. In WELS, VPs become president.
   
3. Richard Gurgle, at The Factory, agitates for the Chicaneries on their listserve. The Enthusiasts do not want just one Manchurian Candidates on their sem faculty. They want the bench full of them.
   
4. James Tiefel presided over the most feminist, Pietistic, and Growthy hymnal in Lutheran history. To defend their feminist Creeds (note the plural), WELS hauled out heresiarch Ted Hartwig, of Two Isaiahs fame (Mary Lou College).
   
5. The Doctrinal Pussycats have sat around "with their teeth in their mouths," to use a Midwestern expression. Doctrinal oversight must mean "to overlook, to ignore, to extend the Left Foot of Fellowship to anyone who notices the change."

After years of grabbing power and saying, "You must listen to us, because we hold the office that gives us authority," the Chicaneries are now furiously fighting the top official, who was elected to undo their harm. Some recent exits include:

1. Wayne Mueller, former First VP, denying/promoting Church Growth;
   
2. Peter Kruschel, another Love Shack drone;
   
3. Dave Kehl, in the control tower for the Love Shack's Airport;
   
4. Bruce Becker (Love Shack and Chicanery board);
   
5. Paul Calvin Kelm, DMin, AARP (The CORE Bible study leader);
   
6. Elton Stroh, who turns imaginary churches around;
   
7. Mark Goeglein, the genius behind Cross-Cultural, MLK, and Latin American disasters.

Congregations are paying the price for 30 years of seminary mis-education, leveraged by sage advice from Chicaneries Patterson and Kelm. Recall, if you will, that Patterson led a group of WELS workers to the Exponential Conference, possibly the worst confab of wacko Enthusiasts in the land. Recall, also, that Kelm resisted all efforts to disinvite Leonard Sweet (New Ager) as Chicanery Conference speaker. Not only that, Kelm refused to address the issue on his own secret Chicanery listserve, even though the Shrinkers always say, "You have to sit down with me and tell me my sins instead of going public." As they say on every sportscast, "What is the bottom line?" The bottom line is - WELS seminarians are graduating as lazy Enthusiasts who give horrible sermons, turn worship into entertainment, and embarrass anyone who is even mildly Lutheran.

In one incident, the sermon given by a guest pastor (WELS) was so bad that the lay leaders refused to put it on their website. Parlow/Kelm stopped uploading their downloaded sermons and calling them their own. Ski and Glende gladly agree that their joint sermon ideas and content come from Okie Craig Groeschel. After all, Kelm has no problem giving a Bible study downloaded from the Net. Was that the advice Kelm gave Mequon - more sermon downloads?

It is a sad commentary on Lutheran education that the One Thing Needful is scorned, neglected, and abused. Every single Lutheran pastor has four great opportunities in his congregation: 1. To give original, Biblical sermons, in a quiet and respectful atmosphere, where everyone listens. 2. To lead a liturgical service where the Gospel Promises are emphasized and articulated in a variety of ways. 3. To teach adults and youth the Word of God. 4. To take the Word of God to people in pastoral visitations - to the bereaved, hospitalized, shut-in, and unchurched.

KJV Luke 10:39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word. 40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her. I enjoy the daily albeit anonymous demands that I repent. I also get scornful comments on how no one reads the blog - especially funny when that person reads every single post critical of CG and responds to it. And - how few members I have. Every single comment like that reveals how far they have fallen, not only from the Lutheran confession of the truth, but from the Christian faith entirely. The word for that is apostasy.

KJV 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart (verb form of apostasy)from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasy)first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Church and Change is a synod-funded agency for apostasy. That apostasy has reached and permeated synod headquarters, Mequon, and Mary Lou College.

Planned Parenthood Director Is Now a Pro-Life Activist

The LCMS-ELCA marriage is also revolting.

The entire story is linked here.

The director of a southeast Texas Planned Parenthood office has resigned after eight years.

Abby Johnson had a change of heart after watching an ultrasound of an abortion. She now works for the Coalition for Life, a pro-life group that often prays outside her old Planned Parenthood office.

Johnson said her bosses pressured her for months to increase profits by performing more abortions.

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GJ - Believe it or not, the LCA took a pro-life position at its Chicago convention in 1978. Mrs. Ichabod and I were there. The leaders responsible for the pro-life initiative were pushed out of their positions and the abortion fans took over. Now ELCA pays for abortion-on-demand through its health plan. Their health plan alone would be reason enough not to work with ELCA on any project for any reason. LCMS - take note. Perhaps some LCMS officials will watch the video and apply its lessons.