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Saturday, December 4, 2010
No Offense Taken
Daniel Baker has left a new comment on your post "Challenge to the Intrepid Lutherans (sic)":
I'm willing to give the leaders over at IL the benefit of the doubt, as they have not done anything that would make me think they are unworthy of that benefit.
They cannot just jump headlong into a slander-fest and start naming hundreds of names (Jeske, Glende, Ski, etc.) without first gathering source material and proper evidence. If they're going to do this, it has to be done right, or no one will take them seriously. We need more than just the couple dozen folks who have pledged their names to make any significant changes in the WELS. It will take a grass-roots effort, not the harping of 3 or 4 pastors (because if that worked, then Ichabod should have reformed WELS by now).
Based on the lack of results from this site, it is clear that the "make fun of them and post cutesy pictures" method doesn't work. Perhaps a more civil approach is in order. (I mean this as no offense to Pastor Jackson, as he opened my eyes to many of the issues in the WELS and got my nose in the Book of Concord. But I am sick of everyone around here tearing down IL instead of building them up, inviting our friends, etc.).
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GJ - I won't ban you for thought-crimes. If I did that, the funniest comments would never see the light of day. I don't mean yours, Daniel.
But who are we to judge the efficacious Word of God? It is not my goal to reform anything, only to apply the Word of God and the Confessions. God will accomplish His will through His Word.
"We have to do things the right way" means "the right way according to the apostates." If the right way according to the apostates worked, then Paul Calvin Kelm would be mowing lawns and detailing cars, or making popcorn for the audience at NorthPoint in Atlanta. I know that pastors went to him years ago about his false doctrine. Again, various members of the Church and Change list the same thing with the same results - he refused to answer them. As long as y'all keep electing toothless officials who will not obey the Word of God, that will continue.
God punishes Christians with false teachers. That is the surest sign of His wrath, because He makes people pay ten times over for neglecting the Gospel and bowing to Satan. Luther wrote that.