Monday, August 2, 2010

Does This Sound Like Columbus, Ohio WELS?

BENNY HINN AND PAULA WHITE: COLLUSION OF RESPONSES

Republished from Surph’s Side with permission:
The lawyers of Benny Hinn and Paula White sure have been busy coming up with a response they both could print. Unfortunately for them, it proves this has been a collusion and that they are orchestrating things together. Inspired by Ken Silva at Apprising Ministries, I decided to show “side-by-side” (blogspot won’t let me do side-by-side columns), their words which are nearly verbatim, with only minor differences. This is underhanded to manipulate their followers as well as the media. However Scripture says those of God do not use such tactics:
2Co 4:1 Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God.
Both Hinn and White are not of Christ as their doctrines and practices prove. Therefore, collusion, underhandedness, demanding $2 million (to pay for this collusion?), is not a shock nor a surprise. Its just more proof they are false prophets/teachers and they are two birds of a feather.
The National Enquirer:
Paula White’s Response
Last Friday, the National Enquirer released a dishonest and misleading article which falsely characterized my friendship with Pastor Benny Hinn. The publication, which is known for its bias and slanting of the truth, tries to mislead readers regarding the ministerialrelationship and friendship I have had with Pastor Benny for over 20 years.
Benny Hinn’s response
As you may be aware, the National Enquirer recently released a dishonest and misleading article which falsely characterized my friendship with Paula White. The publication, which is known for its bias against religious figures, misleads readers regarding the ministerial friendship I have had with Paula White for over 20 years.
May’s taping of “This Is Your Day”:
Paula White
In late May of this year, I went to tape a “This Is Your Day” broadcast with Pastor Hinn.Although I had not seen him in years, the taping gave us the opportunity to catch up on what has transpired in both of our lives. As someone who also endured a painful and public divorce, I was able to offer him insight and spiritual encouragement. Since that time we have continued to talk and our friendship has grown stronger but has remained morally and spiritually pure.
Benny Hinn
In late May of this year, Paula White came to tape a This Is Your Day broadcast with me.Although I had not seen her for years, she was an encouragement to me and shared helpful advice out of her own painful experience. As a result, I will not deny that the friendship has strengthened, and, while it has remained morally pure at all times, I have enjoyed the company of someone who has also gone through the trauma of a painful and public divorce.
Forcefully renounce and not morally impure :
Paula White
I publicly profess and forcefully renounce assertions that the recent trip to Italy to meet with Vatican officials suggests that the friendship is in any way improper or morally impure.
Benny Hinn
And so I am writing to tell you today that I forcefully, categorically, and absolutelyrenounce the lies that have been spread about me and want to set the record straight with you. There is nothing inappropriate or morally improper about my friendship with Paula White.There has been no immorality whatsoever!
Traveled indepentantly and never alone:
Paula White
We traveled independently to the region for respective ministry duties and, while there,spent time together along with others. We were never alone and were in the constant company of staff and other associates.
Benny Hinn
The truth is that we traveled independently to the region for respective ministry duties….Paula was likewise invited to have meetings in the region, and, although we spent time together, we were never alone and were in the constant company of staff and family members.
The original appears at Surph’s Side with a comments section right here.
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Mrs. Hinn has her own ministry.
Here is Benny's shocked statement that his wife was leaving him and filing. They were living apart.
Fire on the kids - sick manipulation of the vulnerable.

Craig Groeschel Fact Page




How To Plagiarize Legally

Groeschel on Plagiarism

Screaming is a typical Reformed gimmick
to sell the Gospel, to be entertaining.

Intrepid Lutherans on Groeschel.

Craig Groeschel preaching.


Craig Groeschel and Andy Stanley (Babtist) often conduct Catalyst conferences together. This is a fairly recent one.

Groeschel was born in 1967 in Texas, grew up in Oklahoma, attended a Methodist university (Oklahoma City U.) and pursued a degree in marketing. He attended Philips Seminary, which is affiliated with the ultra-liberal Disciples of Christ, the denomination of Jim Jones and Donald McGavran.

He married Amy in 1991. They have six children.

He was a United Methodist minister in 1995 when the Oklahoma City bomb blew up the federal building and severely damaged the nearby church where he worked.

In 1996 he began a church in a two-car garage, apparently because his denomination did not want him to start a mission church. Like Hybels of Willow Creek, he began with a marketing survey. The church grew rapidly and became Life Church - with the URL of LifeChurch.tv.

The New York Times reported:
He set up a website for people to post "secret confessions," an idea copied by Pastor Ski at The CORE.

The Catholic Church noted this new trend started by Groeschel.

USA Today says:

"Of the USA's 100 largest churches, 67% now have two or more sites and 60% of the 100 fastest-growing churches also have multiple sites, according to the annual listings of the USA's largest churches in Outreach magazine's October issue."



The most innovative churches in America are:

· LifeChurch.tv (Edmond, OK) :: Craig Groeschel

· Mars Hill Church (Seattle, WA) :: Mark Driscoll

· Granger Community Church (Granger, IN) :: Mark Beeson

· Flamingo Road Church (Cooper City, FL) :: Troy Gramling

· Seacoast Church (Mt. Pleasant, SC) :: Greg Surratt

· Saddleback Church (Lake Forest, CA) :: Rick Warren

· Mosaic Church (Los Angeles, CA) :: Erwin McManus

· Fellowship Church (Grapevine, TX) :: Ed Young Jr.

· North Point Community Church (Alpharetta, GA) :: Andy Stanley

· Willow Creek Community Church (South Barrington, IL) :: Bill Hybels

· National Community Church (Washington, DC) :: Mark Batterson


"Granger broke the rules when his church plastered mylamesexlife.com billboards around the local city, which stirred debate among Christians and a media storm. LifeChurch.tv went out of bounds when it launched the multi-site movement, which includes an internet campus for worship services. And Life Church's senior pastor, Craig Groeschel, broke the rules when he went into bars to meet "the sick" and tell them about Jesus."


Groeschel motto: "In order to reach those that no one else is reaching, we will have to do things that no one else is doing," he said.

Groeschel began as a United Methodist minister but is an Evangelical Covenant minister now. The Evangelical Covenant church is Pietistic and related to the Swedish Augustana Synod which merged into the LCA in 1962.

Groeschel's thoughts about the United Methodists can be found linked here.

He claims 21,000 in attendance each week.

He may not have been the first to promote multiple sites, but he is known for them now. He began using video when his fourth child was born and he could not lead services.




Blusterers for Christ Responds with the Usual Charm Offensive





Greetings:

There was a recent posting on your webpage called Building Better Prisons. There was information on the page that is false. The Builders For Christ program is not looking to build a church in Thailand. We were asked if we knew of anyone that might have interest in supervising the building of a small church. I supplied names of some individual that might have a interest. This is not a project of the Builders program. I would suggest that before you publish information that you check the facts instead of just running at the mouth. You not helping any when you have no idea what you are writing.

Building to His Glory,

Dale Mueller, Director

Builders for Christ

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GJ - Nice to hear from you, Dale. I posted what someone heard, based on his extensive connections and thorough research. I reread the post. No concrete plans were announced. I believe the idea was to remind people of how much was spent on Prairie just before it was given away to the state.

The Shrinker faction forced WELS into an emergency purchase of the campus, a Catholic school far away from the WELS population.

The point is - WELS has wasted millions and is likely to waste even more.

I suggest reading all 4,000 posts on Ichabod before writing a caustic email message.



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