The Ottoman Invasion Flopped, Thanks to Confessional Crusaders. Not To Mention How Stupid It Was

Randy Hunter got this as his private sandbox.
Elton Stroh served as their over-paid consultant.

Something new - women pastors in WELS,
endorsed by John Brug.

bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Islam Helped the Birth of Lutheran Orthodoxy.":

And don't forget about the second Turkish invasion of our churches - coffee, sofas and Ottoman's in the nave:

Faux Harrison mentions 2nd Turkish invasion:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/06/someone-has-sent-insiders-report-from.html

Latte church with sofas:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/03/melancholy-news-from-latte-church.html

Fuller Has Been Their Main Post-Grad Seminary for Decades. Shocking Results for LCMS, WELS, ELS

bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "LCMS Seminary Cost Scandal: Fabulous Costs To Supp...":

SCOTT DIEKMANN comments on Northwest district of LCMS convention:

http://stand-firm.blogspot.com/2012/06/northwest-district-convention-recap.html

I was disappointed that the push for Licensed Deacons and distance seminary education continues unabated.

Islam Helped the Birth of Lutheran Orthodoxy.

Norma Boeckler

churchmousec (http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/) has left a new comment on your post "The Augsburg Confession, June 25, 1530.":

'The threat of Muslim invasion drew Charles away from his plan of destroying the budding Lutheran Church.'

Thank you for the historical insight. I'd often wondered how the Reformation survived vis a vis the Ottoman Empire. It's a subject which Protestants in the West might need to expound on soon in adult classes at church.

Churchmouse

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The Norwich three-volume set is also available in a one-volume paperback summary.
This history has more gore and scandal than anyone could possibly imagine.
Example - a general has an affair with the Empress, beats her husband to death,
takes over as Emperor, and expels her for committing adultery with him.

The Poles saved Vienna.
Sobieski said, "We came, we saw, God conquered."

GJ - Here is a good link on Muslim/Ottoman military advances during the era.

The best work on that era is The Byzantine Empire - Norwich. Owning this set is a sign of culture and distinction.  I read the set three times, the one-volume version a few times. No one writes better than the British - especially history and military history. Because UOP drafted me to teach Western religion, I had to study Islam, which suddenly made Gibbon and Norwich fascinating reading. There is nothing like the curiosity of classes to fuel one's interest in reading more.

I had a similar experience with teaching Catholic/Lutheran differences in Columbus. The more I taught, the more questions I got, the more I went to the Vatican owned seminary for research.

The military might of Europe grew from 1530 to 1680, enough to repel the threat against Vienna. That was also the time between the Augsburg Confession and post-Concord orthodoxy. Lutheran Orthodoxy became entrenched because the Muslim army first drew Emperor Charles' attention away from the Germans. He still hated the Lutherans, but the Muslim threat was far greater. The threat lasted over 150 years, which kept Roman Catholic forces from concentrating on the Lutheran lands.

Are These Men Blogging or Xeroxing?Only Two Give Credit for Their Source

http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/06/25/the-commemoration-of-the-presentation-of-the-augsburg-confession/
The Augsburg Confession, the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Phillip Melanchthon. At its heart it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone. Signed by leaders of many German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on June 25, 1530. A few weeks later Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580 the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord.


http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1351904 - PT McCain!
The Augsburg Confession, the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Phillip Melanchthon. At its heart it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone. Signed by leaders of many German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on June 25, 1530. A few weeks later Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580 the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord.

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GJ -
Those Glock-carrying sharp-shooters on Glock Talk must be impressed with McCain's great scholarship - until they copy his text into Google Search. Haha. Try it for yourself. No wonder McCain loves to post his own original invective and invented facts on Glende's toxic copy-cat blog. Birds of a feather do flock together. Both boys are unrepentant plagiarists, UOJ fanatics, and CG Enthusiasts. Their bosses support them in their plagiarism, too. 

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http://graceneligh.blogspot.com/2012/06/today-church-commemorates-presentation.html
The Augsburg Confession, the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Phillip Melanchthon. At its heart it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone. Signed by leaders of many German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on June 25, 1530. A few weeks later Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580 the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord.


http://aardvarkalley.blogspot.com/2012/06/presentation-of-augsburg-confession.html
The Augsburg Confession, the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Philipp Melanchthon. At its heart it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone.

Signed by leaders of several German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on 25 June 1530. A few weeks later Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580 the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord.

http://e-nklings-revschuldheisz.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.html [date - 2011]
A fitting verse for the 481st anniversary of the presentation of the Augsburg Confession. According to a brief synopsis in The Treasury of Daily Prayer, the Augustana (as it is also called), "the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Philip Melanchthon. At its heart, it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone. Signed by the leaders of many German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on June 25, 1530. A few weeks later, Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580, the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord." [Dr. GJ says - This is correct scholarship. Note the credit at the beginning and the quotation marks. Those two items distinguish scholarship from plagiarism. Quit trying to fool an English teacher, you lazy Lutheran bloggers. Copying is fine, as long as it is done honestly.]

http://weedon.blogspot.com/2010/06/commemoration-of-presentation-of.html [Date - 2010]
From the Treasury and our Synod's Website:

The Augsburg Confession, the principal doctrinal statement of the theology of Martin Luther and the Lutheran reformers, was written largely by Phillip Melanchthon. At its heart it confesses the justification of sinners by grace alone, through faith alone, for the sake of Christ alone.  Signed by leaders of many German cities and regions, the confession was formally presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at Augsburg, Germany, on June 25, 1530. A few weeks later Roman Catholic authorities rejected the Confession, which Melanchthon defended in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession (1531). In 1580 the Unaltered Augsburg Confession was included in the Book of Concord. 
[Dr. GJ says - This is also correct format. The source is cited, followed by a colon, so Weedon is saying - "The following is directly from these two sources." Although a shortened description of the source might be confusing to an non-Lutheran,  nothing keeps the curious from finding out the complete citation. I do not own the book but looked at it on the Net.]


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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Are These Men Blogging or Xeroxing? Only Two Give C...":

Glock Talk must be impressed with McCain's great scholarship

Scholarship? What scholarship?

Scholarship? Hahahahaha. ROFLOL.

LPC

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GJ - I knew a pioneer in polymer chemistry who used to say, "Shallow waters make a lot of noise." I am continually astounded at the enablers. Glende's DP officially approves plagiarism of false teachers in his Exurge Domine bull.

McCain's $300,000 (annual salary) boss disciplines me for pointing out McCain's plagiarism. I gave him the evidence, chapter and verse. I did everything except place yellow crime-scene tape around the blog. That could be a future Photoshop.

Comments about the Fox Valley WELS School Business

quercuscontramalum (http://quercuscontramalum.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton P...":

What drives this nonsense are anecdotes floating among the pastors that there are WELS schools (in Brigadoon?) charging $8000 per year in tuition (and to taxpayers) which supports the church budget and not the other way around.

Here's the Nouveau Formula:
+ Missional anxiety
+ Overpaid, bloated staff upsets "ministry balance"
+ Masses of unemployed/underemployed MLC grads
+ No fear of congregational debts
+ Pretending tuition assistance is available
+ Holding kids hostage to make sure jacked up tuition is paid
+ Blaming parents' "bad stewardship" for refusing $3000 in tuition
+ Separating budget away from Voters ("shut up and pay")
+ Universal Forgiveness / Anything Goes ™
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= Charging money to "make disciples"



Why not charge a fee to receive Communion? Really, why not? Jesus never said we *couldn't*, so it MUST be okay to do so, right?

What's next, installing coffee bars right in the narthex? Jesus wouldn't really mind His Church making a little coin right outside the sanctuary. Or hawking praise band CD sales right from the pulpit. The profits DO support His Missionified Missional Called Workers after all.

Maybe sell little commemorative certificates and charge a fee for absolution of sins too.

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton P...":

I am surprised that no one said that the school was a mission arm and thus the independent nature of it. The Titanic is sinking. It is very top heavy. Notice that the name Lutheran is not in the school title. Hope Christian Schools in Milwaukee has left the WELS. It got what it wanted with no Lutheran name in the title and ultimately became truly independent. There is severe mission creep here. The congregation no longer wishes to serve its members. It would rather loosely support an independent school that has reached out to the community. The tuition cost of Foundation was what used to be the tuition of an area Lutheran High School 15 to 20 years ago. We have come to expect nothing less from the armpit of the WELS - Appleton and the Fox Valley.

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WELS church lady has left a new comment on your post "Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton P...":

Where is the practice of good stewardship in these ventures? Was this the idea that Parlow had floated aroung a couple of years ago? Listen, my three children attend Calvary Lutheran Chruch and School in Dallas. The school is supported by three area WELS churches. The children from the three churches pay NO tuition, as the school is funded through the offering budgets. Calvary is not a venture capitalist/get-rich-quick kind of institution. We are a Chrsitian school(with Lutheran in our title). Parents, myself included, volunteer as aids, tutors, and etc. Our substitute teachers are actually retired teachers and housewives who taught before starting their families. Most of these ladies, with a few exceptions, are DMLC/MLC graduates.

In regards to community students. These tend to be families that generally live within a mile or two radius of the church/school. Time is spent talking with these families. Those that may not have adequate finances, but want their child to have a Christian eduacation, are not turned away as there is "anonymous" help that can be offered. Most families that were without a church home, have become members of Calvary. To God be the glory!

Last, we do have a preschool class at Calvary. NO INFANTS! This is for capable three year olds and four year olds. Unlike the K through 8th program, the preschool does charge a tuition for everyone. This fee is VERY reasonable(aka it's cheap bro') Basically, we all help one another when it comes to the school.(rides, home baby sitting for smaller children...YOU NAME IT!) Stewardship involves more stregnth then money.

In Christ,
Rebecca

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WELS church lady has left a new comment on your post "Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton P...":

"Hope Christian School has left WELS!" Sorry to hear that Rlschultz. There is no excuse for ruining our schools in such a manner. Jeske serves Milwaukee. Hey Pastor Mark Jeske, when are you going to shut down the Time Of Grace program. You better listen to me: I KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HOCHMUTH AND SO DO YOU! IF PRES. SCHROEDER IS INVOLVED, PERHAPS HE IS BEING PLAYED AS A FOOL, THEN I WILL BE ASKING FOR HIS RESIGNATION. YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE. LAST TIME WAS A LOVING WARNING, BUT THIS TIME YOU SCAMMERS BLEW IT!!! BIG TIME!!! I KNOW YOU GOT THE PERSONAL EMAIL THAT I SENT.

Pastor GJ, please publish this comment.

In Christ,
Rebecca

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton P...":

Rebecca,
I used to belong to a WELS congregation which operated in the same manner as Calvary. That has long since changed. My wife and several other mothers in the congregation with younger children used to do in home child care. It was fairly common to get a phone call from the pastor asking for permission to give out our phone number to a prospective member. That has since changed as this congregation now operates a full time day care.

Gracechurch in Milwaukee has a coffee bar not in the narthex, but right around the corner from it. I also have heard Koine's CD's being hawked from the pulpit.

There is also an error in my post. Appleton is not where Foundation will be. Wrightstown and DePere are south of Green Bay. In the broad sense of the term, it is part of the Fox Valley.

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Report from X:

Our WELS church claimed they were starting a parochial school, but they only started a pre-school. They insisted on calling it a Christian Academy - not a Lutheran school.

We are in competition with other pre-schools, so the tuition is low. Most of the children are not members, so we are subsidizing day care for non-members.

It is a good deal for those who are employed by the pre-school "academy." The state mandates certain jobs, so the right ladies get paying jobs to subsidize non-member working moms.

How much does it cost us? The school will not tell us. They have their own part of the building and we are not allowed there. We are not welcome there. The pre-school costs are dragging down the whole congregation. The voters are not allowed to know the separate costs of the school. That is top secret.

We were not told the truth about keeping it as a pre-school business. We never would have started it.

We also paid a big fee to a WELS "consultant" to tell us how to do this.

Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton Post Crescent | postcrescent.com. Ashamed of the Name Lutheran

Celebrate the Augsburg Confession with a pan-denominational academy.
WELS is getting more confessional all the time, says SP Mark Schroeder.

Lutheran churches propose new academy | Appleton Post Crescent | postcrescent.com:


DE PERE — Local Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod churches hope to offer better programming and services by building a joint school.

St. Mark Lutheran Church in De Pere and Green Bay and St. John Lutheran Church in Wrightstown plan to open the Foundation Christian Academy to serve students prekindergarten to eighth grade for the 2014-15 school year.

The idea is to create a central school that will offer religious studies while also providing the educational programming, such as music courses or special education classes, that individual church schools can’t afford on their own, officials said. Current schools likely would close.

“Lutheran schools across the country are facing significant challenges,” said Jeremy Bock, president of the proposed new school. “The current funding model has served us well but is not sustainable.

“An area Christian school serving the needs of multiple congregations draws from a larger pool of students. We are losing schools and closing schools across the country. We need to consider a new model.”

St. Mark School, on the other hand, has seen growth. It served 225 students in kindergarten through eighth grade in 2010-11, and 237 this past school year. Administrators project 265 students for the 2013-14 school year, based on the number of members with young children.

The school will charge tuition, expected to range from $2,600 to $3,400, he said. The goal is to reduce current support from the congregation — 45 percent to 60 percent, on average — for Christian education to only 25 percent of the operating budget for each, he said.

Lisa Everard, who has two children attending St. Mark School, supports the idea of a new school.

“Christian education is something that’s very important to my family, teaching the right values and the right morals,” she said. “This opens up the opportunity to more families, to families who may belong to churches that don’t have schools. I was blessed. I had a Christian education all my life, and I wanted our kids to have it as well.”


Bock said the group hopes to encourage more Lutheran churches to join the partnership as plans move forward.

The new academy would sit on an independent campus and would not be tied to any congregation, nor would it be limited to Wisconsin Synod families. Busing would be available.

The group plans to locate the school in Lawrence or the southwest area of De Pere.

Fox Valley Lutheran High School in Appleton serves as the Wisconsin Synod secondary school for elementary schools in the Fox River Valley and Green Bay areas.

Fundraising efforts have started, Bock said.

The first phase of the project is expected to cost $12.4 million, and future expansion could cost an additional $3 million. About 75 to 100 prekindergarten and kindergarten students, and 300 in first through eighth grades could be enrolled during the first phase, he said, and the second wave would make room for another 150 students.

“So far the support has been very positive,” Bock said.

The new school would include improved technology, labs and art space, as well as teachers who are specialists in certain areas, such as special education or music.

— Patti Zarling writes for the Green Bay Press-Gazette; on Twitter @PGPattiZarling



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One Day of Rah-Rah Before the Augsburg Confession Is Forgotten for Another Year

The Coburg kept Luther safe during the Augsburg Diet.

Today marks the anniversary of the Augburg Confession. My wife and I graduated from Augustana College, given the Latin name of the Augsburg Confession. The Swedish Lutherans who came to America were Pietists who quickly learned that the Confessions were a better guide than their cell groups. Influenced by Passavant and one of their own (trained at the Columbus seminary), they became more orthodox and confessional over time. The Augustana Synod honored the Lutherans Confessions in its church name, its primary college, and its seminary. They had 400,000 members when they merged with the LCA in 1962.

Many SynConference pastors will have their rah-ray day of celebration, marking another anniversary of this confession of faith. They will continue to wage war against justification by faith, even though their highly esteemed justification without faith is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures, Luther, or the Book of Concord.

Their UOJ is found in Samuel Huber and Halle University's Pietism. Gone are the days when a church leader had to be learned, a study of Christian doctrine and an expositor of the Scriptures. Now they are little more than insurance salesmen for Thrivent, lackeys of the Fuller Seminary crowd, and servants of their Father Below.

Luther described a Synod of Crows while he was cooped up in the Coburg.
Did he foresee the SynConference Pietists proclaiming their imagined orthodoxy
in their Pietistic Geneva gowns?

Does anyone sing this and mean it today?

Chemnitz rescued Selnecker from doctrinal compromise,
so there is hope for SynConference - not much - but some.

The Augsburg Confession, June 25, 1530.

The authors of the Formula of Concord, 1580, considered themselves--with Luther--theologians of the Augsburg Confession.

Men risked their lives to confess the truth before their warrior emperor, Charles V, who hated the Lutherans.

The threat of Muslim invasion drew Charles away from his plan of destroying the budding Lutheran Church.

Emperor Charles V - "I speak Latin to my counselors, Spanish to God,
and German to my horse."
Notice the inbred Hapsburg jaw, which made closing his mouth difficult.

The Augsburg Confession, Confessio Augustana.1530