Tuesday, April 30, 2013

The Saxon Exodus to America Did Not Arise from Persecution but from Prosecution.
Syphilitic Stephan Was Under Arrest. His Career Was Over.



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From what I recall from "Zion on the Mississippi," it would be a false claim to say the Saxons came to the States to escape persecution. Had Stephan not defiantly held his illegal small group meetings, the government would have left him alone. I'm sure the "late night nature walks" with the ladies didn't help his credibility in either country. Stephan rings of Jim Jones and other cult leaders. Is that Kool-Aid in the chalice?


Randy Hunter, the Failed Latte Church Leader, Will Teach All of WELS about What?
Paul Kelm Speaks from Retirement - Harder To Get Rid of Than Ski



Wisconsin Lutheran College - Center for Christian Leadership:


Center for Christian Leadership

Leadership Conference 2013
WLC's Second Annual Leadership Conference


Epic fail - thanks to the morons behind this leadership conference.


WELS favors safe sects.
It's Luther they can't stand.

LEADLIVE
  • Sponsored by the Center for Christian Leadership at Wisconsin Lutheran College, in cooperation with the Commission on Congregational Counseling of the WELS.
  • Saturday, May 4, 2013, 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m., in the Raabe Theatre of Wisconsin Lutheran College in Milwaukee, and simulcast via the internet to participating congregations.
  • Opening presentation by Dr. Richard Gurgel of Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary on the theological rationale for sharing best practices in ministry.
  • Five sessions - each with 30 minutes of presentation, 25 minutes of application to their congregation's ministry by participants, and the introduction of a book to assist leaders in follow-through. The five sessions will be:
    • DEVELOPING LEADERS by St. Andrew in Middleton, Wisconsin. Pastor Randy Hunter and a key lay leader. [Hahahahahahahaha.]
    • CREATING MISSION MINDEDNESS by Immanuel in Greenville, Wisconsin. Pastor David Scharf and two key lay leaders.
    • SMALL GROUP MINISTRY by St. Paul in Muskego, Wisconsin. Pastor Peter Panitzke and a key staff leader. [Not Peter Pan! Give us a break!]
    • RECRUITING AND ENGAGING VOLUNTEERSby Hope in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin. Pastor Jason Ewart and a key lay leader.
    • GETTING THINGS DONE by Faith in Sharpsburg, GA. Pastor Jonathan Schroeder and a key lay leader. [Cell groups - that's a real Lutheran Pietist.]
  • The goal of the conference is to provide church leaders practical examples and tools that they can adapt to their own ministry context in the most user-friendly format possible. A secondary goal is to demonstrate the ability of technology to facilitate leadership development and ministry enhancement for the future. [They can get that free from Ichabod and Bethany Lutheran - without all the Fuller/Willowcreek nonsense.]
  • Congregations participating via simulcast will be provided step-by-step technological instructions and a test date in advance.
  • Cost: $60 per "live" participant at the college, which includes continental breakfast and lunch; $150 per congregation participating via simulcast with as many leaders as possible.

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Luther is definitely the bogey-man in WELS - always do the opposite.
The worship comment makes perfect sense for idiots who reject the Means of  Grace.

Cost of Seminary a Scandal - And LCMS Charges Far More Than the Average



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'Cost of Seminary Is Out of Control,' Says President of The Urban Ministry Institute:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/cost-of-seminary-is-out-of-control-says-president-of-the-urban-ministry-institute-94751/

NEW YORK – Pointing to research showing that the average cost of a seminary education ranges from $35,000 - $50,000, the president of The Urban Ministry Institute (TUMI), Don Davis, said the hefty price tag has become one of the main barriers to training more leaders for ministry.

"Frankly, traditional education costs too much. The cost of seminary is out of control, $35,000 - $50,000 is the average," said Davis at the "Educate: Empower" conference of church leaders at Calvary Baptist Church in Manhattan, N.Y., on Thursday.

"People come out of seminary and they can't go to a little congregation where on a good Sunday our offering is $27.20. They have to service a loan. They will not go to a poor church. It's a bad system. We train people and none of them deploy to urban poor neighborhoods. None of them virtually," he added.


Classic Ichabod -

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/09/lcms-seminary-cost-scandal-fabulous.html





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Average LCMS seminary graduates owes $30 grand at least. 10% of seminary graduates owe over $50 grand.

The pastors must all be choosing the 30-year payoff option on their student loans (rather than the more common 10-year payoff), since a representative sample of LCMS pastors (between 1 and 30+ years of service) were asked how much student debt they still had to pay off, and the median figure was a whopping $18,100!

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The Pastor Debt Monster
http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=24918
LCEF conducted a survey in 2011. This was a similar survey to one conducted in 2006. The respondents ranged from newly called workers to those having been in the ministry several (30+) years. This tends to “skew” the medians. The respondents were nearly equally divided into ranges of 0-10, 10- 19, 20-29 and 30+ years in the ministry, The median numbers for those in each category, for example, is not available. However a couple of things that jump out: The median level of outstanding STUDENT LOAN debt was $18.1K. On the surface, that doesn’t appear alarming. However this figure is 20% higher than reported in 2006. In addition, the number of workers that incurred student loan debt increased from 48% to 61%. Those reporting outstanding debt in excess of $50K increased from 4% in 2006 to 10% in 2011. An increase of 250%!....

Based on this data my guess that the average (not median) for my 2009 graduating class was at least $30k per student is probably accurate. That’s over $4 mil for the graduating class of CSL/CTSFW of 2009 alone.

Another Resurgence of Rationalism in the Lutheran Church.
Unhitching Doctrine from the Efficacy of the Word Is Pietism's Gift to Apostasy

Why u no trust the Word of God?
Pietism has had several peaks. The first came after Spener blended Calvinism with Lutheran doctrine. When Halle University--founded to teach Pietism--turned rationalistic in one generation, a hybrid formed in Europe. The state churches were thoroughly rationalistic, but some people and pastors still believed in the basics of the Christian faith. 

The Lutheran pastors who came to America were hybrids. They received plenty of rationalistic training. Several examples would be Stephan, Walther, and Hoenecke. But they also were influenced by Pietism and unionism.

Our family friend, whose parents are from Taiwan, was considered too Asian for the American girls, but the Taiwanese girls thought he was too American.

Likewise, the American Lutheran pioneers are often seen as leaving Europe so they could escape the oppression of their rationalistic state churches. Like the Swedish Augustana Synod, they looked to mission societies and Pietistic methods as their uniting characteristics against the dark background of a degraded state church.

Bishop Stephan, syphilis and all, led his congregation and his circle of pastors through the Pietistic cell group. Augustana involved itself in revivals and temperance causes (Pietism). The General Synod had altar calls and the mourner's bench, where individuals moved by an emotional sermon came forward to confess their sins and be born again.

Pietism loved small lay-led Bible study groups, avoided the liturgy, and made Holy Communion a quarterly Means of Grace.

The slogans of WELS and Missouri were often voiced around the Swedish Lutherans because they come from the same Pietism:

  • I worship Jesus not Luther.
  • Doctrine divides.
  • I love my home Bible study group.
  • I have that Book of Concord but it is old-fashioned and not interesting.


Because Pietists do not rely on the Confessions, which define Lutheran Orthodoxy, they quickly become unhitched from the Scriptures they imagine they honor. That leads them into emotionalism, to get the right effect, and rationalism, to find out what really works.

Their favorite authors (non-Lutheran, or unionistic, or both) constantly teach against the efficacy of the Word, whether openly or covertly. Opposing the efficacy of the Word means rejecting the Means of Grace, so there must be something else that works.

Hence the rationalistic Pietists constantly search for man-made methods and human reasons for doing whatever work they do.

Tim Glende gave a good example in his promotional film about their new church building designed by the chief architect for Holiday Inns. Tim began with the classic passage about the efficacy of the Word, Isaiah 55, but switched to "studies show that..."

The Lutheran Church in America used to take fads and ask, "How can we baptize this? Heh. Heh. Heh."

Starting with Isaiah 55 is a great way to mask Fuller Seminary studies. Mexicans will sit on top of each other in church, but Americans like more space. I heard that one in 1978. The real agenda is designing a church for the Fuller agenda of entertainment. Look at those giant screens. Is that Pastor Tim on the left? Almost as good as Ski on the jumbo screen at the movie theater they abandoned in haste.

The new plan is a stage, not an altar.

"Did you see how little room Koine had for their rock band at the old church? Pathetic. We need a big old stage and mega screens on the right and left to display the timeless tosh of their hand-scooped songs."

Note Pastor Tim on the left-hand computer screen.
The architect knows how to sell a plan - to the pastor first.
No altar, no font. No pulpit.
The lectern is probably wired to the Net to provide a
stream of Groeschel tidbits.



Leaving the A-Frame Behind

Is that the "carriage light of day"
or someone taking a flash photo of their architect's drawing.


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April 03, 2013 - Peace Lutheran Church, 737 Barracks-view Road, plans to break ground Sunday, April 7, for a new sanctuary that is estimated to cost $5.5 million.

The ground-breaking ceremony will take place at 8:45 a.m. The structure, with ecclesiastical symmetry, theater seating and a 37-rank organ, is intended to offer parishioners a sense of majesty and reverence while at worship, according to a news release.

Completion is set for late spring 2014.

Plans were drafted by Stauder Architecture, with R.G. Ross & Associates as the general contractor. The 5,800-square-foot sanctuary, with a mezzanine and undercroft, will seat roughly 500, with overflow capacity for additional worshipers.

Annually, Peace's choirs present a Christ-mas Boar's Head Festival, the Living Last Supper and other religious and nationalistic holiday musical features. Peace also is noted for its involvement with the Bosnian community, offering computer, English as a Second Language classes and other training in preparation for U.S. citizenship.

The Revs. Dennis A. Kastens and Jon C. Furgeson are pastors of the 1,700-member congregation, which serves the Mehlville and Oakville areas and reaches also into Jefferson County, as well as Monroe County, Ill.


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St. Peter, WELS, Freedom, Wisconsin