SIECUS Could Not Have Done It Better Than The SORE - Here Is Why

Paid fly-by.
SEEK US would be a good motto for this operation.


A keen observer of WELS and the cultural climate wrote:

I do have some observations re: the sex ed youtube. Outrageous as it is on the surface, obviously WELS hasn't a clue about Behavioral Psychology and the effect of "role playing" on those who assume the identity (role) of others and this time the role of the Devil. Behaviorists know that once ideas are verbalized by language a threshold becomes crossed by the person who might not otherwise verbalize or express what the character played says. It involves an element of giving ones self over to the characterizing of the character portrayed in order to be convincing. It is a dangerous thing to do especially with a subject having to do with a titillating subject for the purpose of "educating"?

The young man portraying the Devil is either a very well trained professional actor or he was enjoying playing the part of the Devil. Behaviorists know that repeated verbalization of words, phrases, and ideas once considered objectionable, become easier and easier to accommodate
and assimilate as acceptable and eventually "normal". They know that "role playing" works to break down barriers including moral barriers of society. That is why it is used so much in corporate, education, etc.(and yes churches) to create conformity and "group think".

The danger for the soul of an actor who plays the Devil exists not only for himself, but for the hearers who become accustomed to the language. In the case of the WELS youtube....SEICUS couldn't have done it any better. There can be a place for theater or drama, but many years ago Missouri Synod had provisional membership for people who were actors or involved in theater, for the very reason of the dangers to the soul when putting one's own "self" aside in order to assume the persona of a character played. Such display as this latest from WELS is soul destroying in more than one way.

When some of us who were opposing the Human Potential exercises being imposed on classrooms in public schools years ago, one exercise to make profanity and profane ideas acceptable and common place, was for the teacher (facilitator) to encourage students to shout out every "forbidden" word and phrase they could think of.

The teacher (facilitator) would write the words and phrases on the blackboard, then everyone in attendance was instructed to repeat all the words and phrases until saying the words and phrases was no longer uncomfortable. Dramatization such as demonstrated in the sex ed youtube will be just as effective to break down any Biblical moral restraints remaining in WELS..

My name appears on articles, letters to the editor etc., on a regular basis with unpopular and politically incorrect ideas, and if slings and arrows come, unless it is for a "fact" correction, I consider such as having succeeded in touching a nerve. When one is identified with one's own words, and when one's writing is proven to be correct, it is easier to say, "I told you so".

Mary Thompson

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samuelthrace has left a new comment on your post "SIECUS Could Not Have Done It Better Than The SORE...":

I can't recall a bigger load of psychological claptrap in my life! So does this mean that no one should play Macbeth on stage for fear of becoming a murderous pretender to the Scottish throne?

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GJ - OpenID - no profile. That is curious because WELS uses a role playing model to mold their sausages at The Sausage Factory. This secret initiation rite, called GA, is still being held in secret for the chosen few. The heart of GA is indeed role playing. The upperclassmen play one side or the other. The Softs or Pietists pretend to help the incoming students. The Hards aggressively persecute the students. The big climax is when the newcomers run through the doors, frightened of the Hards pursuing them. A big beer party awaits on the other side. Deception is theme, and WELS clergy forever play that game. Of course, GA is a big secret. No one can tell anyone. If someone begins GA knowing about the deception, he really gets it.

Role-playing is used to make the students fit in. Various other methods make sure all the students graduate just the same - like sausages; hence the ELS nickname for Mequon - The Sausage Factory.

I would hesitate to say no other clergy are two-faced, but WELS pastors do their sect proud in their double-talk. If the WELS pastor is taking a sympathetic approach with a layman, he is just as likely to switch sides when it really matters.

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Rev. Fr. Spencer has left a new comment on your post "SIECUS Could Not Have Done It Better Than The SORE...":

The current cesspit of the WELS is the Core in the city of Green Bay. Lest someone think this too harsh or unbrotherly, remember that a sewer is simply "a collection system that transports only the liquid portion of wastewater through small-diameter pipes laid at contour," while a cesspit or cesspool is "a pit, conservancy tank, or covered cistern, which can be used for sewage or refuse." [Thanks Wikipedia!] Thus, the Fox River may be termed the sewer of the WELS, transporting religious excrement, theological waste, and spiritual fecal matter downhill toward the Core located in Green Bay, which then becomes the collection point for such waste. An apt description of the situation, no? I think yes. But that's just my own personal opinion.

The Gadfly

Between This Video and the MLC Gay Video - Why Join WELS?

This video was also featured at Ski's sexucation class at Fox Valley High School - WELS.

Everyone invited. Aimed at minors.

Stupidity like this got Aaron Frey canned at Michigan Lutheran Seminary.

No wonder Glende blogged in support of Frey. Birds of a feather Tweet together.

Thrivent supported.

Groeschel produced it.

I am sure SP Schroeder will send a fierce email, carefully nuanced.


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"Special thanks to our promotional partners

1. Thrivent Financial - Joint Ministry with ELCA
2. WEMI - Schwaermer Family Radio
3. Christian Family Counseling - a ministry of WLCFS"

Fox Valley High School WELS Played This Video for Ski's Sexucation Class

Brought to you by the indolence of the COP, the hands-off of the SP, the protection of the DP, the spinelessness of the district, and Fake-O-Bod's Tim Glende.

I could only watch a few seconds of this tripe. I thought Beavis and Butthead swore off Groeschel. The DP lied and credibility died.

Groeschel Alive and Well at The SORE, Thanks To Englebrecht's Anything Goes District

Beavis: "So Doug says no more Groeschel outlines. Heh heh heh." Butthead: "But nothing about Groeschel videos." Slaver. Slaver.

A reader writes,

Deputy Pope Engelbrecht forced Ski to stop using Groeschel?   Were his fingers crossed?   

At the Fox Valley Lutheran  Sexed event last night, the tweens were shown Groeschel skit videos.  Two are linked. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxABegyOjHw 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGyWKjth0ek 

Is Satan really just a casual, humorous fellow?  Does the Devil wear sequins, or the flayed skins of Faithless sinners?  

Guess which insurance company down the road from FVL bought the  cookies for the festivities? 

Extra credit for guessing which downtown church FVL promoted in the fill in the blank lecture handout.

Commentary on the Stolzenburg Case

Tim Glende is the product of St. Paul German Village harboring and promoting Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, so do not say this is old news. This is current.

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ELS Pastor Jay Webber (also Board of Doctrine) has been busy contacting the Intrepid Lutherans about my low opinion of his work. He is claiming he explained everything to me - wrong. Using someone else as a go-between is a typical WELS/ELS tactic and does not speak well anyone going along with the tactic. Matthew 18 applies to the manipulator and the manipulatee.

Readers know I am in constant contact with the laity and pastors of the ELS, WELS, and LCMS. That means they know how to reach me directly - and do so with frequency. Various WELS leaders use WELS Pastor Steve Spencer as my social secretary, which says a lot about the leaders, all that Matthew 18 stuff they love to apply to others.

WELS Pastor Tim Glende has provided a surprising amount of fodder for this blog. He grew up at St. Paul German Village, where Stolzenburg planted himself and began promoting himself as a Church Growth expert. Stolzenburg and Zehms, both divorced, did their best to ruin Columbus--protected by WELS officials--before Zehms was given a job at WELS Lutherans for Life and Floyd was promoted to a Masonic, independent church.

I contend that St. Peter Freedom, Wisconsin, and The SORE are the direct results of WELS/ELS promoting false doctrine and clergy adultery in Columbus. Credit also goes to the Shrinkers at Mequon, The Love Shack, and Church and Change.

I could discuss many more details and name people. One woman was so terrified that the family moved to another location. That is all I need to say.

Thrown out of LCMS, Adopted by WELS

Stolzenburg was the senior pastor at Salem in Black Jack (Northern St. Louis) when the DP forced him to resign on Saturday and preached for him on Sunday. Floyd's first wife sued him for divorce and his girlfriend's husband sued everyone. Both lawsuits are public documents. Various other revolting details have been provided by the pastor who worked with Floyd at Salem, the DP who canned him, and some LCMS pastors.

The WELS members were told Floyd had a "Scriptural divorce," that anything said against him was persecution.

Floyd's first wife moved to Columbus and Floyd followed. He could not get a job in education so he drummed up the idea of a Church Growth agency, which was named Lutheran Parish Resources. The board did not want to hire him at all, so they hired another divorced Shrinker, Roger Zehms (now with Mark Jeske). The loot was doubled so Floyd could have his job. He attended all Columbus WELS meetings - the circuit never met for years until I mentioned that fact. That was a constitutional requirement but VP Kuske had his own rules from the GA Handbook of Malice and Deceit.

Floyd never worked with the Columbus WELS Lutherans For Life chapter. He assumed he was in charge of everything else, every parish as well. He butted into everything, even phoning prospects and warning them against joining my congregation. He promoted himself to give a paper at a WELS conference and claimed he was invited to do so.

Circuit Pastor John Seifert knew all the details and did nothing. He urged me to put DP Mueller on trial, but refused to help in any way. That is how DPs get elected. The District Mission Board (Wally Oelhafen, Fred Adrian) also knew. Wally said, "I am so glad you are there in Columbus, Greg. I hate to think what it would be like otherwise." He had a different story at meetings, joining Kuske in the Sisera method of counseling.

Thoughts of Faith, ELS
I mailed plenty of material to the ELS as well - George Orvick, Gaylin Schmeling, Jay Webber. I told future WELS VP Huebner that I had "Ministry of Xeroxing," which made him turn pale.

Shep was running TOF at that point, with money from St. Marvin Schwan. As I recall, Kovaciny was called to the Ukraine first. Somewhere around that time Shep contacted me, but my wife was already disabled. WELS pastors, subservient to the Eighth Commandment, said she was not sick at all. A weirder story came from Seifert's own daughter. I wonder where she heard it.

Zehms was invited to the Ukraine but Shep said his divorce and Church Growth fanaticism made him ineligible. There was some sort of dust-up and Zehms was very unhappy, according to Shep (who is now an ELCA pastor).

The last straw for me was WELS promoting Stolzenburg into a parish, knowing full well about his past and his false doctrine. After a few years of pounding by me, the officials finally admitted some of it, with a modified limited hang-out.

I resigned from WELS but DP Mueller/VP Kuske tried to ban me from preaching the last few Sundays. These were the same thugs who could not do enough to get Floyd back into the ministry. Of course, Seifert and all the capons of the Michigan District were silent.

Webber and TOF
ELS Pastor Jay Webber was outraged that Stolzenburg was working with Thoughts of Faith through Roger Kovaciny. He demanded to know if I placed the item in Christian News about this. He was going to oppose it. Pretty soon he was talking about going there himself. Later he had no problems with loot coming from Stolzenburg.

Kovaciny would travel back to the States and raise money for his own salary, preaching and teaching at Floyd's Masonic church while going around to WELS congregations.

Former members of that church (Emmanuel) were disgusted with Floyd being forced upon them, so they mailed me all his newsletters, quoted in the other post. Obviously Kovaciny was their pet missionary. The Little Sect on the Prairie was apparently hankering to add another church to their quiver. ELS SP Orvick had no problem with Masons. His Madison congregation grew by his welcoming of Masons. St. Paul German Village also communed Masons, one secretly.

Stolzenburg featured Thoughts of Faith all the time on his website, as if they had joined the ELS and were members in good standing.

Obviously something official was happening. St. Marvin Schwan gave Stolzenburg a matching grant for raising money to build a church in the Ukraine. According to Shep, that was about $35,000. They named the new church Emmanuel, after the Masonic one. Doesn't that make tears well up in your eyes? Mine too.

I heavily promoted Stolzenburg's connections with the ELS and TOF. Eventually his website went silent and no more photos were published about the Ukraine. That did not mean the relationship changed. The ELS and WELS are all about perception, not reality.

Kovaciny left the Ukraine for a time and came back. There was a concerted effort to toss Shep out, so he became an ELCA pastor.

Some people worry that I am a Shep fan. He sent my of my contacts an email asking what she knew about me, did she think I was normal. At the same time he sent an email to one of his generous financial supporters, praising me to the sky. I emailed the negative email to the supporter, who forwarded it to Shep and asked about it. He never replied.

Conclusion
Jay Webber belongs to that long parade of ELS/WELS clergy enablers who did nothing to stop Stolzenburg - who did everything possible to place him in another pulpit and parade him around as a good example, a pastor in their fellowship (without joining). They shut their eyes to his infidelity to his wife, his false doctrine, and his ineligibility to serve as a pastor. "Apt to teach" and "husband of one wife" are requirements, not suggestions.

KJV 1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

When people cluck their tongues about sexual abuse in the Church of Rome, I say, "But I saw the same cover-ups going on in the Lutheran church, and the clergy get married there."

Jay Webber, John Shep, DP Seifert, VP Kuske, Kovaciny and Shrinker Stolzenburg

Does anyone see the doctrinal connection between the Kuske/Stolzenburg stealth mission and The SORE?

Floyd Luther Stolzenburg was never a member of WELS, yet WELS paid him a fortune to be the Shrinker guru for Columbus WELS, with Roger Zehms, also divorced but a WELS ex-pastor. Jay Webber, John Shep, and Roger Kovaciny (all ELS pastors) took over fellowship with Stolzenburg after WELS got Floyd an independent church, where he still serves.


Results from searching the legendary Megatron database for Stolzenburg.

Commentary linked here.

First Stolzenburg Was Forced To Resign from the LCMS Ministry
Separation agreement, July 24, 1986. Floyd Luther Stolzenburg and Jane Dorothy Stolzenburg. Sole care, custody and control of the minor children given to Jane.

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Floyd’s Promise To Commune Masonic Lodge Members
While “Serving” WELS As a Non-WELS Member
"I would also convey to you that I will continue to commune lodge members as long as I feel assured that they know and believe that their salvation is by faith."

"Please feel free to contact Pastors Kuske or Schumann or come and hear for yourself."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg Letter to Emmanuel, 9-20-91,
Lutheran Parish Resources letterhead "
Serving the congregations of the Wisconsin Ev. Lutheran Synod"

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How Floyd Started LPR with Church Growth Doctrine
46 from St. Paul's attended the Win Arn Church Growth seminar, including Floyd Stolzenburg, George Skestos, Vicar Mike Nitz, etc. March and April, 1985.

"He has served as pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church in St. Charles, Missouri and Senior Pastor of Salem Lutheran Church in Florissant, Missouri...He is trained in the Bethel Bible Series, Church Growth program and Dialogue Evangelism. As a member of St. Paul's Lutheran Church in Columbus, he now seeks a different form of Christian service, outside the pastoral office."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, "The Homewood Church Enrichment Program,"

"In the autumn of 1985 and the winter of 1985-1986, a truly momentous step was taken by the five Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) congregations in the metropolitan area of Columbus, Ohio. The five pastors and lay representatives of those churches organized and incorporated Lutheran Parish Resources, Inc., the first Church Growth institute in the WELS." David G. Peters, "Lutheran Parish Resources: Pilot Program in Church Growth," Mequon: Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, April 27, 1987 p. 1.

"Lutheran Parish Resources, Inc. (LPR) is dedicated to the concepts of the Church Growth movement only insofar as they agree with the Scriptures and as taught by the WELS--that is, Church Growth with Lutheran theology rather than Evangelical, and without the typical Church Growth emphasis on quantitative measurement of growth. Kent R. Hunter's definition of 'Church Growth' justifies the use of this term in describing LPR: 'Church Growth: That science which investigates the nature, function and health of Christian churches as they relate specifically to the effective implementation of God's commission to make disciples of all peoples (Matt. 28:19). Church Growth is simultaneously a theological conviction and an applied science,....' Foundations for Church Growth, p. 187.
David G. Peters, "Lutheran Parish Resources: Pilot Program in Church Growth," Mequon: Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, April 27, 1987 p. 1.

"Consultant, Lutheran Parish Resources, Inc., Columbus, Ohio, 1985-1991, as a consultant for this program, I worked with the training of pastors and lay people for effective ministry in leadership skills, Sunday School organization and teaching, youth ministry, outreach, stewardship and care ministry. I continue to work with supervision of some of these programs. Semior Pastor, Salem Lutheran Church and School, Florissant, Missouri, 1976-1985. (nothing said about being removed from the ministry) Pastor, Trinity Lutheran Church and School, St. Charles, Missouri, 1968-1976. Floyd Luther Stolzenburg 2904 Maryland Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43209-1157 614-235-5200.

"People Person: Have been recognized as a counselor and mediator. Brought harmony to what was once described as 'the most troubled Lutheran church in America. Personal: Born, December 6, 1941, Columbus. Married, three children. Spiritual gifts: Exhortation, teaching, administration and evangelism.
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg 2904 Maryland Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43209-1157 614-235-5200

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Thoughts of Faith, Webber, Kovaciny,
Shep, and Stolzenburg

"Since the salary of Pastor Kovaciny and their basic expenses are paid through the 'Thoughts of Faith' ministry, we will continue to include the overall work in our regular budget." Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone, Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio October, 1994.

"...the Ukraine project of Thoughts of Faith (Pastor Kovaciny)" Use of mission funds. Charlotte Proctor, treasurer. [The female treasurer of Emmanuel went to jail for embezzling.]
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone, Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio November, 1995.

Recording secretary, Christine E. Scheiderer; treasurer, Charlotte Proctor.
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone, Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio November, 1995

"Pastor Kovaciny, in an effort to respond to our request, sent a copy of the third quarter treasurer's report of the Ukrainian congregation, signed by the treasurer and written in his own hand. We thought you might enjoy seeing it! You should be aware that our budget offering goes to pay for Pastor Kovaciny's salary and expenses through 'Thoughts of Faith,' the radio ministry which has been bringing the Gospel to the Ukraine for many years...."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone, Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio January, 1995.

"All designated funds for Thoughts of Faith are spent on the program for which they are designated by the donor. Funds not designated by the donor are used to pay for administrative expenses. Thoughts of Faith would like to thank our congregation for our support towards this important work in spreading the gospel throughout the world."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone, Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio November, 1995.

"About Missions" c. Thoughts of Faith through the Evangelical Lutheran Synod, d. St. Sophia Lutheran Seminary-Ukraine.
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio August, 1996.

"From the Mission Committee...Good News from the Ukraine Reproduced at the bottom of this page is the masthead from the Ukrainian Lutheran, which has now been published by our mission in Ukraine for two years and grows in circulation with each issue."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio November 1996.

"EMMANUEL SAVES BIBLE SCHOOL! A SPECIAL MESSAGE was just received from Pastor Kovaciny to let us know that Emmanuel's Mission offerings have rescued their Bible School this summer!...[Pastor Kovaciny] writes to tell us about it. 'As we looked forward to an even more successful program this coming summer, we were told by our sponsoring organization that our Bible School budget had been cut by $8,000. It seems that some people in charge believe that we have been too successful and they need to put their funds toward programs in other areas which are lagging behind.' (Pastor Kovaciny)"
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio June 1998.

"In the midst of all the positive, exciting things Pastor Kovaciny had to say about the mission work being done in the Ukraine, he constantly mentioned the most pressing problem, a lack of space...As he spoke to us about the many needs, he mentioned the possibility of building achurch of the approximate square footage of our sanctuary (though not nearly as elaborate) for $50,000...Pastor Kovaciny, obviously excited about the possibility, has agreed that the new church would be named Emmanuel Lutheran and would have a picture of the 'mother church' prominently displayed in the new building."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, "From the Mission Committee, Emmanuel Lutheran Church, Kremnetz, Ukraine, Emmanuel Lutheran Church #899, August, 1999 1500 South Third Street, Columbus, Ohio 43207-1000 .

"We supplied funds for our missionaries in the Ukraine, and the Gideons." Sherry Huffman, Sunday School.
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Cornerstone Emmanuel Lutheran Church Columbus, Ohio February 1999.

"Pastor Kovaciny, obviously excited about the possibilities, has agreed that the new church would be named Emmanuel Lutheran and would have a picture of the 'mother church' prominently displayed in the new building."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg, Emmanuel Lutheran Church, Columbus, Ohio #899 for August, 1999 1500 South Third Street Columbus, Ohio 43207 $50,000 to be raised.

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Stolzenburg and LPR

"Most pastors and members do not seem willing to pay the price for growth and new life." Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources

"The area L.W.M.S. annual retreat has been created and led by L.P.R. General successes in this area have been very positive."
Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources. [GJ – He was famous for his “work” with women’s retreats in the LCMS.]

"L.P.R. is due to play a major role in the West Side Mission." [Pilgrim Community Church] Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources "There is a strong feeling of strength in tradition. Even non-doctrinal issues bring fear to the membership and an unwillingness on the part of staff to 'buck the system.' In a church that opposes other groups who trust in traditions, are we raising 'We've always done it that way' to the level of Scripture? Is it possible for our faith to be exciting and still be traditional?"
Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources.

"In the doctrinal sense, the word 'fellowship' may have hindered some growth by the fear of new techniques and ministries. There seems to be an openness to new programs but also a fear that such new ideas may destroy some facets of the doctrine of church fellowship. Will that inevitably happen?"
Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources.

"CHURCH GROWTH. This program was basically the beginning of L.P.R. at St. Paul's. Certainly a church growth consciousness exists in all of the congregations which was not there four years ago. It is also evident that most of the congregations are not really willing to make church growth a major priority of their ministry. Some new people who visit our churches are turned off by the comments of church members. It would seem that many members will 'tolerate' growth if it does not upset the church's traditions."
Floyd Stolzenburg, Consultant's Annual Report, 1-12-89 Lutheran Parish Resources.

Stolzenburg, Kuske, and Zehms –
The Stealth Congregation That Failed
"Initial services will be less formal than our traditional worship services. LPR Director Roger Zehms has been requested by Beautiful Savior to serve as pastor of the new mission with Floyd Stolzenburg serving as evangelist and music consultant. Please include this new approach project in your prayers."
LPR UPDATE October, 1989.

"Our decision not to use the name Lutheran in the name of the congregation seems to have caused some concern. We point you to the Lutheran confessions which clearly state that a name is an adiaphoron. So only when not using the name is a denial of what the name stands for is there a problem. We reject the inferences that have been drawn that have been drawn that it is our intention to deny the biblical teach (ibid. conservative Lutheran teaching). Put in very practical terms our question is: Can we reach more of the unchurched if we can begin with sin and grace, guilt and forgiveness, rather than having to deal with lodge, scouts, the vagaries of ELCA, etc. at the beginning." [unchurched and at the beginning in bold print]
District VP Paul Kuske Letter to the Ohio Conference Pilgrim Community Church, sponsored from Grove City by Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church Fall Conference, Gibsonia, 1989

"Mr. Floyd Stolzenburg will serve under Rev Zehms providing such services as are appropriate for a person who is not 'CRM.' As a layperson Mr. Stolzenburg can under appropriate supervision do anything that a layman in your congregation can. -- We also reject any inference that Pastor Zehms will not be able to stand up to pressure from Mr. Stolzenburg, or from the donor who provides the funds for LPR. -- We also question the procedure in which the reason for Mr. Stolzenburg's resignation has been broadcast, even though the issues had been addressed by LPR." [Not true. People were told Floyd had a Scriptural divorce, that the divorce was the fault of his first wife.] Pastor Paul Kuske Letter to the Ohio Conference Pilgrim Community Church, sponsored from Grove City by Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church Fall Conference, Gibsonia, 1989

"The administrative committee has applied to Lutheran Parish Resources for the services of Rev Roger Zehms. This application is the equivalent of a (limited) call. The committee has also applied for the services of Mr. Floyd Stolzenburg to act in a supportive role in the mission. Both of these applications have been approved." Pastor Paul Kuske Letter to the Ohio Conference Pilgrim Community Church, sponsored from Grove City by Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church Fall Conference, Gibsonia, 1989.

"The consultants were to be hired, so two men were interviewed. Roger Zehms was engaged first. Since George Skestos admired Floyd's gifts, he chose to provide an additional salary for Floyd as a second consultant...As the consultants serve in the congregations, they served under a 'limited call,' similar to the call of a Sunday School teacher or a church officer."
District VP Paul Kuske, Letter to the Michigan District Mission Board, April 21, 1990 p. 2.

"BUT I would suggest that some of the essential criticisms that have been used by Pastor Jackson and published are invalid. Please, examine the three column layout on the cherry sheet." [After conceding that Church Growth is Reformed] Note: the cherry sheet sets up a straw man argument which bristles which sarcasm, such as: "If Pastor Jackson is consistent with the criticisms he has published, he would have to say:...Paul really goofed. Look how few were converted. (Oops! I don't really mean to put a CGM argument into Greg's mouth.)"
District VP Paul Kuske, Letter to Michigan District Mission Board, April 21, 1990 p. 5.

"To Floyd's credit, it should be pointed out that Floyd could have tried to ingratiate himself into St. Paul's while Pastor Roehl's health was declining and taken over the pastorate and there would not have been a thing that WELS could have done about it."
District VP Paul Kuske, Letter to Michigan District Mission Board, April 21, 1990 p. 6.

"Are pastor's (sic) bound by the 8th Commandment? LPR knew about Floyd's background from the beginning. What right did Pastor Jackson have to assume that we were being duped? What right did Pastor Jackson have to investigate, without even asking people at LPR about their knowledge? What right did Pastor Jackson have spreading this investigative information to the young pastors of the Ohio Conference? What right did he have to spread it to the DMB?" [Note: Pastor Jackson was not told the truth about Floyd being removed from the LCMS ministerium, either by Paul Kuske, who led the call meeting at Shepherd of Peace, or by Wally Oelhafen, who discussed the call with Pastor Jackson. The mission counselor and others were told that Floyd had a Scriptural divorce. Pastors are supposed to protect their congregations from wolves, but the truth makes enemies, as Walther has said in Law and Gospel.]
District VP Paul Kuske, Letter to Michigan District Mission Board, April 21, 1990 p. 8.

"I think it was the last letter I wrote you in which I said 'It would be a disaster if you left the ministerium of the synod.' I retract the entire letter. I have owed you great debts in the past. I consider them all discharged by the times I have protected you from the consequences of your own bad decisions. I'm not going to run interference anymore. Suffer your own consequences hereafter. Speaking of consequences, I have never heard, or heard of, one of our brethren getting a public reprimand in writing such as the one Kuske gave. I wonder who Kuske was talking about." [The reference is to Kuske's remarks about Floyd Stolzenburg and Pilgrim Community Church.] Pastor Roger Kovaciny, Letter to Gregory Jackson, October 17, 1989.

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Stolzenburg at St. Paul, German Village (Non WELS)
Where Little Timmy Glende Grew Up Schwaermer

"What the Bible Says about CHURCH GROWTH," Taught at St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Columbus, Ohio p. 1.

"WELCOME TO CHURCH GROWTH. Our study is designed to help all of us gain a new perspective of what God has always had in mind for His Church. Church Growth is not new." Floyd Luther Stolzenburg.

"We have discovered that the Early Church was an institution that unknowingly saw its world through Church Growth eyes. We have some benefits they did not have in that we can look back today and analyze their successes and failures."
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg,
"Church Growth - the Acts of the Apostles,"
Taught at St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Columbus, Ohio.

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WELS Ladies Had To Pay
To Listen To a Non-WELS Shrinker

"...Your share of Floyd's accommodations..."
[Floyd Stolzenburg leading the Buckeye Circuit LWMS retreat] Buckeye Circuit LWMS December 10, 1989