Once Again - For WELS and LCMS Leaders Ignorant of the Confessions - The Eighth Commandment

Several WELS minders, including Marcus Manthey, decided to rail against me on Facebook because I listed a small portion of the crimes WELS has kept from its members, even from its own teachers and pastors.

According to the abusive WELS sect, no one can discuss their crimes unless that person is absolutely innocent of all sin. An exception is that they can talk about their felonies if the purpose is to deny them, forget them, or provide a cover story to supplant the truth.

Didn't Manthey write a tepid criticism of the Church and Changers?
I doubt he railed against them on Facebook.

Luther's Large Catechism, Ten Commandments, 
Eighth Commandment, Concordia Triglotta, #284.

All this has been said regarding secret sins. But where the sin is quite public so that the judge and everybody know it, you can without any sin avoid him and let him go, because he has brought himself into disgrace, and you may also publicly testify concerning him. For when a matter is public in the light of day, there can be no slandering or false judging or testifying; as, when we now reprove the Pope with his doctrine, which is publicly set forth in books and proclaimed in all the world. For where the sin is public, the reproof also must be public, that every one may learn to guard against it.

The WELS-LCMS-ELS-CLC approach has been to label any question about WELS false doctrine or criminal behavior a violation of the Eighth Commandment and Matthew 18.

But we all believe, teach, and confess - don't we? - that it is no slandering when a matter is public, such as Webber, Bivens, and JP Meyer teaching crypto-Universalism while attacking Paul, Galatians, Romans 4, Luther, and he Book of Concord.

WELS-ELS-LCMS-ELCA false UOJ dogma is really the foundation for the criminal acts concealed by its scrofulous leaders:

• Theft of property.
• Church worker adultery.
• Obstruction of justice in covering up crimes and removing evidence.
• Failure to report abuse of children.
• Dangerous DUIs and untreated alcoholism of church workers.
• Spousal murder.
• Etc.

How dare anyone mention the crimes and cover-ups! That alone deserves several rounds of personal attacks and indignant smoke-screens.

Their outraged responses remind me of the time a layman and I hauled a notorious drunk off the streets and took him to a VA treatment facility for alcoholism. He was deeply offended and said he was not an alcohol abuser at all. He was "just a little nervous."

How many years did DP Werner molest little girls in his congregation? And yet WELS was sublime about the practice, until good ol' Ed was arrested and charged with multiple crimes against his own members, the mothers joining in providing evidence against him. Where were all the outraged leaders when this was going on? They claim to know when a pastor has changed after-shave lotion, but they do not know their district president is an unrepentant criminal, even when his district knows about it and uses it for blackmail?

District President Ed Werner

SpenerQuest Circles the Drain. Jay Webber Cites His Wretched Botch of an Essay. What Would Luther Say?

Rev. Guillaume Williams Sr. (Revhardheaded) Senior Member Username: Revhardheaded Post Number: 5286 Registered: 10-2004	Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 - 8:34 pm:       I think I need a broader context, but yes, avails is an important word there. Also, as we do not subscribe unconditionally to everything Luther wrote, nor do we to the orthodox fathers. The Rev. Guillaume J. S. Williams, Sr God justifies the ungodly. Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
David Bickel (Drb) Advanced Member Username: Drb Post Number: 862 Registered: 11-2009	Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2016 - 7:13 am:       Yes, if “avails” means “benefits,” the quote may be accurate albeit incomplete in itself. The quote seems contrary to how Rev. Paul A. Rydecki tried to defend his position against 2 Cor. 5:19 here: http://www.faithalonejustifies.com/wp-content/uplo ads/2013/01/Justification_UOJ_ProofTexts.pdf Here’s another interesting quote: > Posted on March 8, 2014 by Pastor Andrew Preus > In arguing against the Huberian error that because Christ has redeemed all men he therefore elected all men, Hunnius maintains: > But we respond from the start that we steadfastly teach that Christ, by the decree, counsel, ordination, good pleasure and command of the eternal Father, has freed each and every mortal, without any exception at any time or in any place, from sin, death and eternal damnation. > ~ Aegius Hunnius, Theses Opposed to Huberianism: A Defense of the Lutheran Doctrine of Justification — Wittenberg, 1597, Translated by Paul A. Rydecki (Bynum, TX: Repristination Press, 2012), 51 (Thesis 152). http://steadfastlutherans.org/2014/03/just-a-quote -from-hunnius/comment-page-2/ Dawning Realm http://www.dawningrealm.org
David Jay Webber (Djw) Advanced Member Username: Djw Post Number: 828 Registered: 12-2004	Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2016 - 9:26 am:       The quotation from Hunnius's Thesis 152, to which Mark Preus drew attention, is indeed an important datum in understanding what Hunnius's views actually were. I also use that quotation on p. 34 of the essay on this subject that I delivered at last year's Emmaus Conference.

WELS Minders Rush To Confess My Sins Rather Than Repent of Their Abuse and Deceptions. Is WELS Obliged To Report Their Clergy and Teacher Crimes?

Gregory L. Jackson

January 18 at 7:14am · Springdale · 

Crime Watch in Lutherdom - a list of links to crimes and arrests in WELS and Missouri. More to follow.

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/…/crime-watc…

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Gregory L. Jackson There are a lot of views so far. The list is so long that I will do a second list and sticky post it on the left.

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Richard Townes Jr This a matter of public record, so what is your purpose of posting?

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Gregory L. Jackson Richard, many do not know this. The fact that over 400 views have been registered about DP Werner alone should alert you to this. WELS is very keen about running people into the ground for daring to tell the truth, but especially keen about hiding arrests and lawsuits. Did the FBI search of WELS headquarters make the FIC magazine? I think not.

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Marcus Manthey Greg, do you somehow imagine that your own sins are less serious or less worthy of damnation than those you publicize here? Are you planning on posting pictures and accounts of the sins you have committed? Whom do you believe you are helping by broadasting (sic) Satan's victories like this? Are you aware of the cases your report where confession and absolution have already taken place, or is that not something you consider "news-worthy?"

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Gregory L. Jackson WELS sanctimony is so thick, layers up on layers. Denominations have an obligation to own up to the criminal behavior among their teachers, pastors, and district presidents. You make it so personal, Marcus. Any journalist expects the truth to be publis...See More

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Gregory L. Jackson I am aware of Mark Schroeder absolving Joel Hochmuth and Hochmuth re-offending immediately after. What's that called - cheap grace?

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Gregory L. Jackson Your brother clergy, even a staffer at Michigan Lutheran Seminary, insist Al Just never did a thing. His wife just rolled over and over on a steak knife in bed.

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Gregory L. Jackson Richard Townes Jr and Marcus Manthey - I speak for WELS, LCMS, ELS, CLC, and ELCA survivors who cannot speak for themselves. They have encouraged me to tell the truth when corrupt synod leaders continue to lie and accuse the targets of their emotional, physical, and sexual abuse.

The Faith of Jesus. Updates and Links

My favorite editor, Janie Sullivan, is taking care of some format problems in The Faith of Jesus, the black and white edition.

That should be done and printing in a week. I am sorry for the delay, but retail and some medical issues with Mrs. I (being addressed) complicated things.

I will send out copies to those who helped and copies where I think they will do some good.

The next stage is the full color illustrated version. Norma Boeckler is providing them. The end result will be The Faith of Jesus with beautiful full color illustrations. I am gong to keep both editions available (Amazon) and link the free versions on this blog.

The Trinitarian symbol was drawn by Norma Boeckler.

Here is a chart about some of the larger sects in Lutherdom today. I do not take the doctrinal stances seriously and the numbers are inflated. Consider the chart a bad map on a foggy, moonless night.

The Odor of Death - ELCA's Luther Seminary Costs

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Seminaries Merging Right and Left - Mostly Left

Leonard Woods Jr is the Calvinist who translated the Halle University lectures of
George Christian Knapp,
coining the English terms of Objective and Subjective Justification,
which are now treated as directly revealed by the Holy Spirit
to CFW Walther and JP Meyer.

Andover-Newton Theological School, founded in 1807, is closing its Boston campus and moving, due to rapidly shrinking enrollment. The new president's adultery, revealed just before his installation in 2014, did not help matters.

Andover-Newton is considered the canary in the coalmine of mainline seminaries. Like Colgate-Rochester-Crozier--where Walter Rauschenbusch and Martin Luther King studied at its component parts--the endowment funds have helped delay the final stages of decomposition.

Those who love Universal Objective Justification will grieve that the historic birthplace of Double Justification, Objective and Subjective, will be turned into something more memorable, like a gourmet food mall or a quaint collection of libraries where the homeless can sleep and bathe.

Biographical details of Woods:

His son, Leonard, scholar, born in Newbury, Massachusetts, 24 November, 1807; died in Boston, Massachusetts, 24 December, 1878, was graduated at Union college in 1827 and at Andover Theological Seminary in 1830. In 1831-'3 he was resident graduate scholar at Andover, and in 1833 he was licensed to preach. His private pupil, Richard Henry Dana, says of him: " At the age of twenty-four years he had been the first scholar in the Phillips academy, the first in every branch at Union, had been graduated at the Theological seminary the acknowledged foremost man of his period, and had published a translation of Knapp's Christian Theology, enriched with a long and fully thought-out preface, with original notes showing profound scholarship. He was assisting Professor Stuart in his commentary on the Epistle to the Romans, ' and aiding Professor Robinson in editing the ' Biblical Repository, ' then the most scholastic periodical in America, and was assistant instructor of Hebrew in the seminary." He edited the " Literary and Theological Review" in New York city in 18"34-'7, and although that periodical was the organ of the Presbyterian and Congregational churches, he directly opposed the opinions of many of its supporters, objecting to the proposals of temperance and anti-slavery societies and popular revivalists, and to the German Reformation, and defending the few and simple conditions of admission into the Anglican communion, as compared with the minute requirements of doctrine in his own church. He was professor of sacred literature in Bangor theological seminary in 1836-'9, and from 1839 till 1866 president of Bowdoin. 

Although Andover was a Calvinist seminary founded as conservatives fled the horrors of Unitarian Harvard, Andover has ended in the same far Left spectrum of mainline dysmorphia.

Covenant Relations

Andover Newton has historical covenants with the American Baptist Churches (USA) and the United Church of Christ. 

The School has a long-standing and progressive partnership with the Unitarian Universalist Association and offers UU students the courses and support they need to pursue ministerial fellowship with the UUA.  

I am dabbing tears from my eyes at this moment - tears of laughter. The old adage is true - "Young Calvinist, old Unitarian."

Just as UOJ Halle lecturer Knapp denied the Biblical foundation of the Holy Trinity, so does the Calvinist seminary home of Knapp's translator deny the Holy Trinity altogether.

• The American Baptists are the ELCA wing of Anabaptists. 
• The United Church of Christ is pan-religious. 
• The Unitarian Universalist organization is openly atheistic.

ELCA Seminaries Crumpling Under the Weight of Declining Enrollment and Soaring Costs

1. Southern Seminary (ELCA) is rejoicing about its new location at an ELCA college. 
2. The Berkeley ELCA seminary is joining the chorus.
3. Gettysburg and Philadelphia, 100 miles apart (for Mequon grads) will merge.
4. The Chicago campus is dwindling, overbuilt from the start.
5. Columbus - Trinity - is also feeling the pain.
6. Luther Seminary is selling two parcels of land as part of its "long-term development plans." Uh-huh.

The security camera at ELS headquarters captured this photo.