13 so wird eines jeden Werk offenbar werden; der Tag wird es klar machen,
weil es durchs Feuer offenbar wird.
Und welcher Art eines jeden Werk ist, wird das Feuer erproben.
14 Wird jemandes Werk, das er darauf gebaut hat,
bleiben, so wird er Lohn empfangen;
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Elderly Pastor Accepts Call to Wisconsin Lutheran ...":
December 2009 Foward IN Christ:
"The Conference of Presidents eliminated the positions of Pastor Paul Kelm, Parish Assistant consultant, and Pastor Elton Stroh, Parish Assistance administrator, because the Parish Assistance program has been discontinued."
Yes, this is old news, especially to the people on this blog. However, for folks who do not follow these things, they would have no idea that eliminated and discontinued actually means, "We KICKED them to the CURB!"
"A newly appointed committee will bring recommendations to the Conference of Presidents in April 2010 outlining the scope and function of a replacement to Parish Assitance, which may include its own commission with its own director."
I have a suggestion, if that WLC gig doesn't work out for Kelm, he can be the new director. Something tells me Kelm will NOT be on the top of that call list. SP Schroeder should make a recommendation.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
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GJ - I am told that Paul Calvin Kelm and Elton Stroh (German for straw) approached the WELS Kingdom Workers so they could raise Perish Services from the dead, or scrape it off the curb, to use the Church Lady's metaphor.
The COP nixed the idea.
When the Shrinkers ran the conventions, everything passed by the assembly had to be obeyed as canon law, no matter how anti-Biblical it was. They even had to merge the colleges, even though the voting results were flipped. Now that WELS is voting more sensibly, the convention must be ignored and disobeyed, because Kelm, Stroh, and WLC answer to a Higher Power - their Father Below.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Built of Straw (Stroh)":
Oh, so it is okay for you to make fun of the names of other people, but no one is to make fun of yours?
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GJ - I was not making fun of Stroh's name, only making a point about Perish Services being built upon straw - false doctrine. The Biblical citation is clear. I left it in German so the Mequon graduates would not be able to read it.
The anonymous comment came in from Mankato, doubtless during computer lab at BLC.
Professor Weisacre: "Today's lesson is direct from the governing board. If you must make smart-aleck remarks on a blog, keep them anonymous. You do know the IP address can be traced back? You don't?"
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Built of Straw (Stroh)":
The men did not contact Kingdom Workers. Kingdom Workers contacted the synod first but most people externally and internally did not see a good fit nor the right leadership at KW to help.
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GJ - Someone sent me the rumor. I was not sure it was true. Now that it is officially denied, we know it is true that Kelm and Stroh went to Kingdom Workers to reinflate their positions.
I also heard that Kingdom Workers dis-invited Jeske to their conference. That was their idea and it came from the laity.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Built of Straw (Stroh)":
Well, then by your logic you have proven the truth of Universal Objective Justification because you deny it.
"Now that it is officially denied, we know it is true..." -GJ
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GJ - Now I know I am dealing with someone trained by WELS. I mean trained the way seals are trained to clap their flippers and bark for more fish. There is a wee bit of difference between denying a fact--typical for WELS Shrinkers--and rejecting false doctrine. Sound doctrine is revealed by the Holy Spirit through the Word, not deduced by logic.
The Shrinkers denied they hired Stetzer for the Church and Change conference. The Conference of Pussycats had already discussed it. I traced the invitation to Stetzer's own blog, twitter, and official schedule, all naming WELS Church and Change. The Shrinkers still denied it, calling their Babtist friend Stetzer a liar. Eventually the COP got them to dis-invite Stetzer.
Ditto the covert hiring of Paul Calvin Kelm as a Perish Assistant.
8 comments:
Oh, so it is okay for you to make fun of the names of other people, but no one is to make fun of yours?
The CGM will continue to be a vicious parasite as long as it members maintain any type of influence in WELS. It consistently and repeatedly seeks to siphon off support and use it for some fool idea.
The actions of the CGM belie its words. It could care less about the health of the church. They do care about cushy positions for themselves.
Yes, WELS CGM has cornered the market on deceitful pastors.
Now that WELS is voting more sensibly, the convention must be ignored and disobeyed, because Kelm, Stroh, and WLC answer to a Higher Power - their Father Below.
Father Valleskey taught them well.
The men did not contact Kingdom Workers. Kingdom Workers contacted the synod first but most people externally and internally did not see a good fit nor the right leadership at KW to help.
Well, then by your logic you have proven the truth of Universal Objective Justification because you deny it.
"Now that it is officially denied, we know it is true..." -GJ
I agree whole-heartedly that sound doctrine is revealed by the Holy Spirit through the word, and not deduced by logic. Either one of us grossly misreads scripture or you misunderstand the teaching of objective justification. No pastor or teacher I have ever learned from has taught that we are justified without believing. What is taught is that Christ died once for all and that when an individual comes to saving faith he possesses the security of salvation. Faith does not justify a believer, but faith is the means through which Christ's righteousness is attributed to him in the eyes of God. Faith is the organ which receives the benefits of Christ's sacrifice. Faith in and of itself does nothing. The object of my faith, namely Christ, does everything.
Anon 10:18 AM wrote: "Oh, so it is okay for you to make fun of the names of other people, but no one is to make fun of yours?"
What Anon is talking about is some commenter took Mr. Leyrer to task for calling Dr. Jackson "Jacko". That, however, was not Dr. Jackson condemning Leyrer, so he's not being hypocritical and doesn't have a double-standard.
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