Tuesday, November 21, 2023

Delusional Dullards at LutherQ - No Wonder the Synodicals
Are Melting Faster Than a July Frost

 

This WELS history of loving Church Growth is matched by the LCMS, ELCA, and the ELS. Notice how none of the brave souls on LutherQuest (sic) can offer any ideas, research, or regrets.

I prepared a paper for a recent pastoral conference [LCR] entitled “Catechetical helps against the spirit of antichrist.”

The paper holds out an approach to correct the six chief false doctrines used to create a power base in both Roman Catholicism and in churches which teach Soul Competency. (Baptist, Mennonite, Assemblies of God, virtually any church that is PC or lax in practice of the office of the keys.)

The best comment came from a formwer (sic) WELS pastor who noted that the WELS committee which created CGM overtly researched and copied Baptist methods. If this is so, then WELS intentionally sought out the spirit of antichrist, and infected their local churches. The pastor who made the comment had sold the book by jackson (Gregory L. Jackson?) in which he broke the story that CGM in WELS is really Baptist.

Has anyone heard of such a book?

If not do you have citable evidence that CGM is Baptist in origin?

Your comments are greatly appreciated.

Your servant in Christ,

youngdrj

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The Disciples of Christ are among those groups that teach soul competency (My Church and Others, Mueller, 1968, p. 56ff).

I think I will have to get into the guts of how WELS implemented CGM, to see if the six principles that I attribute to soul competency are also present there in CGM as implemented in WELS and LC-MS. Does LC-MS have a position on CGM? Official or otherwise?

Does anyone have a resource for WELS and/or LC-MS implementation of CGM?

Thanks in advance for the great help,

Your servant in Christ,

youngdrj

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GJ - I would be glad to send a few books free to Jeffrey Young. The publication response of the Walther sects (LCMS-WELS-ELS-CLC) has been shock, denial, stink-eye, and extending the Left Boot of Fellowship. Now the Objective Faithless Justification savants are reaping the bitter fruit as they fulfill the warnings of John 15. 

KJV John 15:6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Luther Quislings will not respond to the question, except for sputtering and fuming.




Daily Luther Sermon Quote - Trinity 25 - “And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”

 



Complete Luther Sermon ->Matthew 24:15-28. 

Twenty-Fifth Sunday after Trinity


8. But the abomination of which Daniel writes is that the Emperor Cajus, as history tells, had put his image in the temple at Jerusalem as an idol, for the people to worship, after everything there had been destroyed. For the Scriptures call idolatry really an abomination, because God abhors and abominates it, inasmuch as he is the enemy of no sin so much as of this.

The others he does truly punish, but he does not cast the people away if they repent, as he says in Psalm 89:31-34: “If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. But my loving kindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.” But this sin, called idolatry, which is really unbelief and denial of God, which he cannot at all endure, condemns man completely. For where this remains in the heart of man, so that he teaches and believes correctly, indicates that our works are nothing, and that we shall be acceptable to God and serve him aright alone through faith, then there will be a truly godly character; there light and truth abide. Although along side of faith there runs a sense of the weakness of the flesh. It is not an abomination before God, but only a daily sin that God will punish unto repentance; yet he keeps the people, spares them and forgives them, when the people turn to him and learn to acknowledge his goodness. On the other hand, where this faith and doctrine do not exist, everything is lost; for it is impossible for man not to establish for himself a false worship and choose his own opinion and work, and worship it, so that he really denies God and his Word, and God is entirely turned aside; so that his grace cannot operate. Such abomination is generally the most beautiful and the greatest holiness in the eyes of the world, which outwardly appears in beautiful works and customs; but inwardly is full of filthiness, as we can see at the present day in our orders and church services where they are at their best. However there are again some Christians who are not like these in their works and ways; but are truly holy before God.

9. Now Christ says, when the abomination, that is, this idol, shall stand in the temple, the kingdom shall finally be made desolate and destroyed, so that it can never be rebuilt again, as Luke expresses it clearly in these words, Luke 21:20f: “But when ye see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that our desolation is at hand. Then let them that are in Judea flee unto the mountains; and let them that are in the midst of her depart out; and let not them that are in the country enter therein. For these are days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.”

And further, “Woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days! And pray ye that your flight may be not in the winter, neither on a Sabbath: for then shall be great tribulation, such as had not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.”

10. All this pertains still to the Jewish nation. For if this should come upon us at the end of the world, then would we, according to the text, have to be in the land of Judea, because he really points to that country. It is also true, when he says that no greater calamity has been or can be upon the earth than was at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem; as we see in history, how unmercifully they were slaughtered and even killed one another, cast themselves into the fire, and permitted themselves to kill one another. Yea, the famine was so great that they ate the strings of cross-bows and even their own children. It was so shameful and abominable that like pity and distress shall never be heard again.

11. But they themselves wanted it, hence God permitted them to be thus blighted and destroyed. He would gladly have had mercy upon them and preserved them, but they brought themselves to such distress with their stiff-neckedness, that they killed and consumed one another; that as they began it, all such murder and bloodshed had to increase. Thus the death of Christ and of all the prophets is most abominably avenged on them, and that without ceasing, they raged against the Word of God, and persecuted and drove away the Apostles, as St. Paul says in Thessalonians 2:15-16, that the wrath of God finally came upon them.

12. When such fearful wrath and abominable plagues are at hand, says Christ, then flee wherever ye are able to flee; for these words, “Then flee unto the mountains, he that is in Judea, and he that is upon the housetop,” etc.; then; “He who is in the field,” etc., are all written or spoken symbolically, as if to say, hasten quickly away; the sooner the better, and let no one find or overtake you. This also came to pass. After the Jews had been sufficiently warned by many signs, that they should submit themselves to the Romans, and they would not; then the disciples and apostles fled away and followed this saying of Christ, they left everything behind that was in Judea and never returned to take anything.

13. “And pray ye,” he says further, “that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a Sabbath;” that is, see to it that you flee at the right time, that you be not overtaken. For he did not want to perform a miracle and keep them safely in the midst of the enemy, although he could have done so; for he had determined that everything that was there should be completely destroyed together; therefore all as one mass were only fit for destruction.

If there were indeed a great multitude at Jerusalem according to the record, a million and a hundred thousand men were melted together, as many as were in the city. Therefore Jesus admonishes the disciples that they should not postpone their flight to the Sabbath, when they did not dare to journey; nor to the winter, when it would be cold; but that they should depart, the sooner the better; that if they hesitate, an inconvenient time to flee would come.

14. Thus far Jesus speaks concerning the Jews. Now I have said before that Matthew and Mark unite these two ends together. Therefore it is difficult to discriminate, and yet we must discriminate between the two. Therefore notice that what had been said up to the present, all referred to the Jews; but now he weaves both together, breaks off abruptly, does not concern himself about the order in which the passages were spoken by Christ, and how they are connected with and follow one another; but leaves it to the Evangelist Luke, yet he wants to say that it shall be thus at the last day, and says: “And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”