Monday, May 27, 2024

Endorsements of Fuller Seminary - Comments From Free Republic

 




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In 2019 and 2020, two former students sued Fuller, alleging they were being expelled for being in same-sex marriages. In October 2020, courts upheld Fuller’s right to enforce its sexual standards policy. Its standards prohibit “homosexual forms of explicit sexual conduct” and hold that sexual intimacy is reserved for a marriage between a man and a woman.


They should be pondering how to please God............

I have thought that Fuller Seminary was a bit on the liberal side. Like other infiltrators into the evangelical church, they are using word salad about a “third way” to justify defying Biblical standards.
The apostasy is prophesied in the Bible.

Fuller, seemingly once conservative.


I heard some stuff from one of their graduates back in the mid-1990s.

From another guy - we knew this other guy - he came out with less Faith than when he went in.


Phase 1: In the name of "diversity," allow openly LGBTQ+ students and faculty.

Phase 2: In the name of "diversity," ban students and faculty who adhere to traditional, Biblical views of marriage and sexuality.


Such a decision would carry Fuller into uncharted territory, Hawthorne said. “It’s a bold step.....

..straight into the pit of Hell. The heck with what God says. Hail Satan!”

That’s pretty much their attitude.


We're watching it happen.

Fuller Ponders Gay Ministers? WELS-LCMS Are Way Ahead of Them

 

I was observing during GA - their hazing routine - when the GA Pope (now a district president) dressed gay, many years ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California, is deliberating whether to become more open to LGBTQ+ students who previously faced possible expulsion if found to be in a same-sex union. Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California, is deliberating whether to become more open to LGBTQ+ students who previously faced possible expulsion if found to be in a same-sex union. That’s according to a draft of proposed revisions to the seminary’s sexual standards that was obtained by The Associated Press.

If the board votes to approve these revisions, Fuller could become the first evangelical seminary in the country to adopt standards acknowledging the diversity of thought among Christians pertaining to human sexuality, according to retired professor John Hawthorne, an expert on Christian colleges.

WELS college students were so proud of plagiarizing Party in Fire Island Pines that they uploaded it to  YouTube and bragged out how popular it was, many years ago.


Such a decision would carry Fuller into uncharted territory, Hawthorne said. “It’s a bold step for a school that fought off lawsuits on this very issue a few years ago.”

At the same time, several current and former students and faculty believe this move would preserve Fuller’s existing status as a “third space” where Christians with diverse views on sexuality are welcome — a space that has been shrinking nationally amid increasing political polarization on the issue.


No one seemed to be offended by a WELS congregation cross-dressing at a public congregational party, with Wayne Mueller's son participating. The sect, like LCMS and ELCA, loved to fund Fuller Seminary for oh-so-great Church Growth insights - and denied that too.


Fuller issued a statement Thursday saying the deliberations on this topic are ongoing and drafts of possible revisions have been created solely for discussion and reflection. It says no proposals have been submitted to trustees for a vote and it is unclear when the board might even consider the matter.

Hawthorne, whose upcoming book argues that Christian colleges should put students front and center instead of worrying about critics, anticipates “significant blowback” from conservative Christians should Fuller move forward with the revisions.

“I hope they have a plan on how to manage the aftermath, the storm, when it comes,” he said.

Don't ask what they did with to sprinter statue during hazing at Northwestern College, the statue moved to Martin Luther College to continue that tradition. "Nothing happened!" is the theme song of hazing in WELS.

Men in cheerleading uniforms? That's Michigan Lutheran Seminary, which is neither a seminary nor Lutheran.

Martin Luther College graduate.

Daily Luther Sermon Quote - Trinity 1 - "For where faith is, there is no anxiety for fine clothing and sumptuous feasting, yea, there is no longing for riches, honor, pleasure, influence and all that is not God himself; but there is a seeking and a striving for and a cleaving to nothing except to God, the highest good alone; it is the same to him whether his food be dainty or plain, whether his clothing be fine or homespun."

 

 Veterans Honor Rose for Memorial Day.

Frank Glick took this photo of an eagle on a gravestone at Fort Snelling National Cemetery.


Complete Sermon - First Sunday after Trinity, Luke 16:19-31. Examples of Unbelief and Faith. The Rich Man and Lazarus

1. We have hitherto heard in our Gospel lessons of various examples of faith and of love; for as they all teach faith and love, I hope you are abundantly and sufficiently informed that no human being can be pleasing to God unless he believes and loves. Now in this Gospel text the Lord presents to us at the same time an example of faith and of unbelief or of the state of the godless, in order that we also may abhor the contrary and the opposite of faith and love, and that we may cleave to faith and love more diligently.

For here we see the judgment of God upon the believers and the unbelievers, which is both dreadful and comforting. Dreadful to the faithless and comforting to the faithful. But in order that we may the better grasp the meaning of this text we must picture to ourselves both the rich man and poor Lazarus. In the rich man we see the nature of unbelief and in Lazarus the nature of belief.

PART I. THE RICH MAN.

2. We must not view the rich man according to his outward conduct; for he is in sheep’s clothing, his life glitters and shines beautifully, while he tactfully conceals the wolf. For this Gospel text does not accuse him of adultery, of murder, or robbery, of violence or of having done anything that the world or reason would censure. Yea, he has been as honorable and respectable in his life as that Pharisee who fasted twice a week and was not as other men, of whom Luke 18:11f. speaks. For had he committed such glaring sins the Gospel would have mentioned them since it examines him so particularly that it describes even the purple robe he wore and the food he ate, which are only external matters and God does not judge according to them. Therefore he must have led outwardly an exemplary, holy life; and according to his own opinion and that of others, he must have kept the whole law of Moses.

3. But we must look into his heart and judge his spirit. For the Gospel has penetrating eyes and sees deep into the secret recesses of the soul; reproves also the works which reason cannot reprove, and looks not at the sheep’s clothing, but at the true fruit of the tree to learn whether it is good or not, as the Lord teaches in Matthew 7:17. Hence if we judge this rich man according to the fruits of faith, we will find a heart and a tree of unbelief. For the Gospel chastises him that he fares sumptuously every day and clothes himself so richly, which reason never considers as especially great sins. Besides, the work-righteous people think it is right, and that they are worthy of it, and have merited it by virtue of their holy lives, and they do not see how they thus sin by their unbelief.

4. For this rich man is not punished because he indulged in sumptuous fare and fine clothes; since many saints, kings and queens in ancient times wore costly apparel, as Solomon, Esther, David, Daniel and others; but because his heart was attached to them, sought them, trusted in and chose them, and because he found in them all his joy, delight and pleasure; and made them in fact his idols. This Christ indicates by the words “every day,” that he lived thus sumptuously daily, continuously. From this is seen that he diligently sought and chose such a life, was not forced to it nor was he in it by accident, or because of his office or to serve his neighbor; but he only thereby gratified his own lust, and lived to himself and served only himself.

5. Here one traces the secret sins of his heart as the evil fruit. For where faith is, there is no anxiety for fine clothing and sumptuous feasting, yea, there is no longing for riches, honor, pleasure, influence and all that is not God himself; but there is a seeking and a striving for and a cleaving to nothing except to God, the highest good alone; it is the same to him whether his food be dainty or plain, whether his clothing be fine or homespun. For although they even do wear costly clothes, possess great influence and honor, yet they esteem none of these things; but are forced to them, or come to them by accident, or they are compelled to use them in the service of others.

Thus queen Esther says, that she bore the royal crown against her will, and that she had to wear it for the sake of the King. David also would rather have lived a private life; but for the sake of God and of his people he had to become king. In like manner all the saints considered that they were constrained to fill their stations of influence, honor and glory; and their hearts were never entangled by them, and labored in these external things to be helpful to their neighbor, as Psalm 62:10 says: “Trust not in oppression and become not vain in robbery; if riches increase set not your heart thereon.”

6. But where unbelief reigns man is absorbed by these vanities, he cleaves to them, seeks them and has no rest until he has acquired them, and after he possesses them, he feeds and fattens himself with them as the swine wallow in the mire, and finds at the same time his happiness and felicity there. He never inquires how his heart stands with his God and what he possesses in God and may expect from him; but his belly is his God; and if he cannot get what he wants, he imagines things are going wrong. And lo, these dreadful and wicked fruits of unbelief the rich man does not see, he covers them over, and blinds his own eyes by the good works of his pharisaical life, and hardens himself until no teaching, exhortation, threatening nor promise can help him. Behold, this is the secret sin which to-day’s Gospel punishes and condemns.

No Wonder Lutherans Are Lost And Bewildered Today:
From Time Magazine

 

From Planet of the Apes - George Taylor finds out that the Planet of the Apes is Earth, not a distant discovery where he landed, very much like the Lutherans of today.


From Time Magazine


To Yale’s Lutheran Historian Jaroslav Pelikan, the Reformation was a “tragic necessity”—tragic in that it shattered the unity of Christendom, necessary in that it cleansed the church and restored man’s faith in God to its Scriptural roots. It is equally true that the Reformation is an unrealized hope and unfinished ideal. Today, says Dr. Wilhelm Pauck of Union Theological Seminary, “one could characterize the spirit of our epoch as pre-Reformation. The old order is in a process of dissolution, but there is also a great positive religious expectancy.”




One leading Lutheran scholar, Dr. Carl Braaten of Chicago’s Lutheran School of Theology, insists that Protestant union with Rome is precisely in accord with the reformer’s wishes. “The Reformation was always meant to be a temporary movement,” he contends. “When the Roman Catholic Church is reformed, there will be no justification for a separate Protestant church.”