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Ya'll need to stop picking on Don. Until this blog exposed him he was perfectly content with fishing for the grants.
ICHABOD, THE GLORY HAS DEPARTED - explores the Age of Apostasy, predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, to attack Objective Faithless Justification, Church Growth Clowns, and their ringmasters. The antidote to these poisons is trusting the efficacious Word in the Means of Grace. John 16:8. Isaiah 55:8ff. Romans 10. Most readers are WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELCA. This blog also covers the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Left-wing, National Council of Churches denominations.
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "I Will Make Thee--After a Grant-Writing Seminar--F...":
Ya'll need to stop picking on Don. Until this blog exposed him he was perfectly content with fishing for the grants.
Read this eye-opening report on our buddies, the Chinese Communists.
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"Graduates without jobs at The Sausage Factory are told to go teach English in Red China if they want jobs."
Actually, pastors with jobs also clamor for $$ to take excursions to China as well.
Case in point, read Mark Cordes' account of teaching "all three languages from Genesis 1" to Chinese students for 2 weeks (http://www.nycrossofchrist.org/home/140001589/140001589/Mission%20Connection%20Article.pdf) with Leon Piepenbrink and his Babpist nephew.
My three questions are:
1. Don't we already have a seminary in Hong Kong, missionaries with Chinese language skills in Taiwan, and Friends of China and Kingdom Workers already working in China? Why does Piepenbrink need to accumlate more vacation pictures and rack up more frequent flier miles? Who is paying for his jet-set ministry?
2. Did the WELS coffers purchase his Babpist (sic - should be Babtist - the errant spelling implies an angry Babtist) nephew's plane ticket? His nephew is "also serving as interim minister for Palo Verde Baptist Church." (http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/8260.php)
3. How much money was spent with the result that "By the end of our two weeks,some who had requested triple the hours of instruction could pick out several Hebrew words and explain them"? If this minimal instruction is all that is required for an all-expenses paid trip to China, where do I sign up?
4. Why is Piepenbrink allowed to set up ministry posts in Thailand without informing the WELS missionaries already working in Thailand? (http://www.hmongministry.net/missionworkinthailand.html) Why spend the $$ to fly all the way to South East Asia when we ALREADY HAVE MISSIONARIES THERE?
5. Who is allowing this insanity to continue?
Tiananamen Square Twenty Years Later
Lutheran high school to educate students from communist nation
By Kathy Walsh Nufer • Post-Crescent staff writer • June 4, 2009
APPLETON — Fox Valley Lutheran High School already draws a large contingent of international students, but will widen its welcome mat this fall when it hosts students from mainland China.
FVL has been authorized to do so through the Chinese Outreach in Christian Education program endorsed by the Chinese government.
So far three students are lined up for fall.
FVL's school community is "thrilled" about the partnership, said guidance director Tom Welch. "With this new program, the Chinese are not only embracing education in the United States for their students, but seeking that within Christian schools."
Traditionally, the Chinese government has been restrictive about which U.S. schools it allows Chinese students to attend, Welch said, so it speaks well of FVL's reputation in serving international students, as well as the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, or WELS, system.
Two other WELS high schools will educate Chinese students.
Joshua Yu, a WELS pastor in Wauwatosa, initiated the program. He said religion still is a sensitive topic for China's communist government, and Chinese typically practice their faith privately.
"It's unique for us to teach their kids about the Bible," Yu said. "Traditionally, we sent missionaries to other countries. Now they are coming here and paying us to teach them."
Yu said many Chinese seek an American education.
"Only 30 to 40 percent of high school graduates there have the opportunity to go to universities, so middle-class families want to send their kids overseas," Yu said.
That includes business and government officials.
FVL already has a thriving International Studies Program.
In 2003, the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services approved FVL as a host school, and 32 international students from two dozen countries directly enrolled in the school this past year, and eight more foreign students attended school there through traditional exchange programs.
Yu has high hopes for the Chinese outreach program, saying it is much better to expose students to other cultures when they are in high school as opposed to college.
"This can bring very good results," he said. "The next generation will be more understanding of each other and there will be more friendships."
FVL will offer cultural enrichment, plus assist with college planning, as most of these students will go on to U.S. universities.
Like other FVL students, they must attend religion class, Welch said. Host families and local congregations will support their religious training.
"We have had a lot of new host families come forward, excited about this opportunity for ministry," said Laura Gucinski, assistant program coordinator.
Gucinski, who also is arranging for FVL's first student from Zimbabwe, thinks the school's growing diversity provides a "richer experience for both our students and new international students."
Chinese students will pay FVL's international student rate of about $7,500 annually, plus $4,000 housing compensation for hosts.
That's helpful in these financial times, said Welch, "But our real focus is on the ministry. Christ said go make disciples, but in this case it's open your doors because they are knocking."
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Two Americans in China
New Ulm-based professors teach at Chinese university; come back with stories
From The American Spectator:
Staid Lutherans never get as much attention as the more flamboyant Episcopalians, but the 4.7 million Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) will meet in August at its quadrennial General Synod in Minneapolis. Currently the ELCA affirms that "all single rostered people, including those who are homosexual in their self-understanding, are expected to abstain from sexual relationships" and, by common understanding, prohibits same-sex unions. A denominational task force, liberal dominated as such committees always are, is urging the Synod to authorize ordination for persons in "lifelong, monogamous, same-gender relationships." Wary of following the Episcopal Church into schism, and cautious by nature, Lutherans may refer this recommendation to still more stupefying study and dialogue.
More decisively, the 7.9 million (in the U.S.) United Methodist Church has consistently voted to prohibit same sex unions and sexually active homosexual clergy, while affirming sex only within traditional marriage. Its General Conference last year reaffirmed these stances, but thanks to votes by delegates from Africa, where there are 3 million United Methodists. Virtually unique among U.S. Mainline denominations, over a third of United Methodism's members are outside the U.S. If current demographic trends continue, the denomination will have a majority overseas in the near future.
Liberal United Methodists, most of them from declining churches, realize they will never persuade conservative Africans. So liberal bishops and others have proposed partly separating the U.S. church from the Africans with a new U.S. only "regional conference" to decide U.S. church business without African interference. This Spring, local United Methodist conferences in the U.S. and around the world are voting on this plan. Approval by two thirds of all individual votes is required, and so far, the "global segregation plan" is falling short. If it fails, United Methodism seems dead set against accommodation of same-sex unions.
Moving in the opposite direction, the 1.1 million United Church of Christ (UCC) became the only major U.S. denomination formally to endorse "equal marriage rights for all" at its General Synod in 2005. It urged local churches "to consider adopting Wedding Policies that do not discriminate against couples based on gender." But the loosely confederated denomination cannot enforce its policy on member congregations, and probably most local UCC churches do not celebrate same-sex unions. After the vote, the UCC's more traditional Puerto Rican synod voted to withdraw from the UCC, as did over 250 local churches, helping to make the UCC one of America's fastest declining denominations.
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GJ - We left the LCA before the ELCA merger took place. ELCA began with 5.3 million baptized members and now boasts 4.7 million members. Many ELCA leaders were involved in Church Growth too, along with parish pastors. Norm Berg rattled off the names of ELCA leaders he worked with, and Robert Mueller knew the top dogs from his board membership with Lutheran World Relief.
I think the radical new proposals will pass at the ELCA convention.