Monday, December 21, 2009

Your Thrivent Dollars Promote All Religions Together - Dab Your Eyes




Thrivent magazine

Summer 2008 | Volume 106 | Number 648

Live • Give • Grow


A Portrait of Community

Steve Harms, Peace Lutheran's senior pastor. Photo by Paul Dyer. The Idea: Members of Peace Lutheran Church in Danville, California, chose to commemorate their church’s 50th anniversary in 2007 by creating a large mosaic with help from members of the broader local faith community.

The Details: Mounted on Peace Lutheran’s outer wall, the mosaic is 14 feet in diameter and made up of more than 43,000 colorful, quarter-inch tiles.

“We wanted something that would both capture a sense of the history of our congregation—its priorities and values over the years—and something that would convey the spirit we’re being led to in the future,” says the Rev. Steve Harms, Peace Lutheran’s senior pastor (pictured).

Created with help from local artists Richard Caemmerer and Jennifer Mitchell, the mosaic includes symbols representing various faith communities throughout the Danville area. At the heart of the mosaic is an open space for interchangeable, two-foot-wide pieces created by each faith community for display on their holy days.

The Result: For Peace Lutheran members and members of the greater Danville community, the mosaic is a permanent reminder to celebrate differences and a perfect metaphor for togetherness.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Your Thrivent Money at Work - ELCA Brags":

Habitat-Thrivent house goes to a Somali, and everyone knows that 99.9 percent of Somalians are Muslim. Ironically, one of the Thrivent board members is an ELCA lesbian. I wonder whether she's ever read Sharia law on the topic of lesbians. Moreover, I thought Habitat houses went to single mothers mainly, and that Somali couple of Arab extraction doesn't look exactly poor and downtrodden!

So instead of $125 million going to Lutheran causes, it's going to help Allah establish a serious foothold in America. Soon the muezzin will be heard at the Thrivent HQ, and they'll have only themselves to blame.



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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Your Thrivent Dollars Promote All Religions Togeth...":

From a previous comment on Thrivent:

"First Thrivent did away with its scholarship program and now the GivingPlus program, both of which were used for Lutheran education."

Yes, everyone knows that the LCMS and WELS have the educational programs, and the liberals have next to nothing. Even their seminaries are small and shrinking and feminized.

So to tailor a giving program so the money can go anywhere and not involve groups of Lutheran participating in projects or charities is exactly what the liberal want. The shrinking liberal churches find it hard to get enough group participation.

The ease of using the tick-off box and "giving at the office" meant that money went to non-Christian and gay groups, and then shortly after that, the groups deemed intolerant like the Boy Scouts were axed from the eligible charities list altogether!


Your Thrivent Money at Work - ELCA Brags




The WELS Conference of Pussycats Warned Against HFH, but Jeske rebelled, lifting up his consecrated and consecrating hands to bless a local project.


ELCA NEWS SERVICE
December 4, 2009

Thrivent Financial for Lutherans, Habitat for Humanity Finish 2,000th Home

[Click for larger image] Abdikalik Abdulahi, left, and his wife, Suaada Abdiaziz of Somalia, speak with a well-wisher at the Dec. 4 dedication.  Andrea Cole photo  
CHICAGO (ELCA) -- A new home for Abdikalik Abdulahi and his wife, Suaada Abdiaziz of Somalia, built by a host of volunteers, was dedicated Dec. 4 in Minneapolis -- the 2,000th home built through an alliance of Thrivent Financial for Lutherans and Habitat for Humanity International.    
 
"Thrivent Builds with Habitat for Humanity" is a four-year, $125 million alliance of the two organizations.  Their work has resulted in construction of homes in 46 states and the District of Columbia.

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GJ - Legally, Thrivent is called "lodge insurance," sold by such groups as the Masons, Knights of Columbus, and KKK to benefit their own members. Thrivent takes away the money to give away to Jimmie Carter's favorite charity.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Your Thrivent Money at Work - ELCA Brags":

My father-in-law hates Thrivent. I will ask that he dump the policies that he owns.
Since JK will not be with us any longer, I will speek on his be-half:
"Now GJ, this time you are frying some bigger fish."

In Christ,
from WELS church lady

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GJ - Someone can take the money in the old policy and pass it into a new policy, without paying tax on the gain. However, that would be subject to new underwriting and an older age for the person being insured. It might not be a good plan to get rid of policies on someone whose health has changed or who cannot afford the new plan. In other words, exercise caution.

Copenhagen and Washington DC Struck by Record Snowstorms, Simply Because They Voted Against Global Warming





Candidate Obama actually said, "They will remember the day the oceans stopped rising and the planet began to heal."

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A Cold Front Moves in from Minneapolis

Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "Copenhagen and Washington DC Struck by Record Snow...":

I have been browsing through your list of favorite hymns. Don't see many Scandinavian hymns there, GJ. Why not? How can you consider 'Stille Nicht' a good hymn? It's sappy German sentimentalism that has no doctrinal content. See my blog this month for a lengthy list of good Scandinavian Christmas hymns.


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GJ - Next, Norman will be saying I murdered my best friend (Hauerwas liturgical insight). His hymns are posted without translations. I knew two of the melodies, tops. "I am so glad" has never been a favorite in congregations I served. There is quite a difference between the German and the Scandinavian hymn traditions. That led to the break (which supposedly never happened) over the WELS/ELS hymnal.


My complaint is that "favorite hymns" in various synods have been the Methodist ones, or worse ones imported from Babtist revivals.


I thought the Service Book and Hymnal was stronger for having more Scandinavian hymns. TLH is too Germanic, but I still like it. WELS Contempo Worship is a slap-dash collection of hymns, from the dreadful to the pathetic, with the great doctrinal war verses removed from the best hymns.


I hired Mr. Bose (orthodox Lutheran) as my organist. He never complains when we sing all 16 verses of a hymn during a service (broken up, of course).


Success Again, As the Entertainment Industry Circles the Wagons




Buzzing again, stinging themselves.



Someone has to defend the Chicaneries. Why not us?
Nodding my head like yeah, moving my hips like yeah.

I got two emails at almost the same time, from Tim Felt-Needs and Joe Krohn. Both had the same sloppy PhotoShop on their blogs, at the same time. They have jumped in to defend Glende and Ski by putting my face on Ski's pose with the Playboy model/alleged singer, MariQueen. Glende is still posing with Katy Perry on his Facebook main page. Look up Katy Perry x-rated lyrics to her big hit songs, if you dare. I could link the lyrics, but I won't. You were warned.

LutherRocks (Austin, Texas) is organizing a boycott of Ichabod, but he also lists himself as a follower of this blog on his profile. Now there is a prime example of hypocrisy. He is a daily reader, but he does not want anyone else to be. To be more precise, he is worried sick about people reading this blog and discovering what his Shrinker pals are like.

I can see why these two get upset over my posts. Like Ski and Glende, they believe in Entertainment Evangelism, a term invented by the most famous ELCA ChurchGrowther. He wrote an editorial for The Lutheran magazine, claiming Jesus would have a talk show on TV if He came back to earth.

Ski and Glende love to pose with tarts because they are all in entertainment together, twittering about their latest thrills.

Joe and Tim should get together and work on the Church from Scratch website - still only one page. With their skills in Net communication and PhotoShop, they could publish more than one page for Doebler. By now Doebler could have his map page PLUS a second page.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Success Again, As the Entertainment Industry Circl...":

You won again, Pastor.
Shrinkers moving into damage control mode is evidence.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Facebook 101":

Ski and Glende will no doubt prove very therapeutic to WELS if only in a negative way. Members now have the opportunity to see pastors for the sinful creatures that they are. Sadly many of them are wolves in sheep's clothing.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Success Again, As the Entertainment Industry Circl...":

Tim Felt-Needs and Joe Krohn have nothing better to do.

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Reu - For Brian






 "Here we discover the first mark of unionism: A difference in doctrine which hitherto has been regarded as divisive, is suddenly made to lose its divisive significance." (About the Augsburg Confession, Variata, Real Presence) M. Reu, In the Interest of Lutheran Unity, Columbus: The Lutheran Book Concern, 1940, p. 19.  [GJ - See Valleskey and Mequon on the Means of Grace in the CGM.]


"The second mark of unionism, therefore, is this: Differences in doctrine are made to lose their divisive significance with a view to uniting hitherto separate churches." (about unification of all Protestant forces) M. Reu, In the Interest of Lutheran Unity, Columbus: The Lutheran Book Concern, 1940, p. 19. [GJ - That is why Kieschnick's Missouri can work hand-in-claw with ELCA.]


"The third mark of unionism, therefore, is this: A formula of unification is found which each of two hitherto separate churches may accept but which each of them interprets differently. An external bond is found for internally divided groups." (About Melanchthon using 1 Cor. 10:16 as the basis for uniting the Reformed and Lutherans, Luther's favorite text against the Reformed.) M. Reu, In the Interest of Lutheran Unity, Columbus: The Lutheran Book Concern, 1940, p. 19. 1 Corinthians 10:16.   [GJ -See the ELS ambivalent document on ministry and its silencing of Consecration by the Word.]


"Doctrinal indifference is at once the root of unionism and its fruit. Whoever accepts, in theory as well as in practice, the absolute authority of the Scriptures and their unambiguousness with reference to all fundamental doctrines, must be opposed to every form of unionism." M. Reu, In the Interest of Lutheran Unity, Columbus: The Lutheran Book Concern, 1940, p. 20. [GJ - The apostates love Fuller, Willow Creek, and Trinity Deerfield precisely because they are apostates.]


"We find this attitude of tolerance quite frequently among unionists. It is often used to assuage a troubled conscience, one's own as well as that of others; for the unionist declares that every one may continue to hold his own private convictions and merely needs to respect and tolerate those of another. This attitude is totally wrong, for it disregards two important factors: (a) in tolerating divergent doctrines one either denies the perspicuity and clarity of the Scriptures, or one grants to error the right to exist alongside of truth, or one evidences indifference over against Biblical truth by surrendering its absolute validity; and (b) in allowing two opposite views concerning one doctrine to exist side by side, one has entered upon an inclined plane which of necesstiy leads ever further into complete doctrinal indifference, as may plainly be seen from the most calamitous case on record, viz., the Prussian Union." M. Reu, In the Interest of Lutheran Unity, Columbus: The Lutheran Book Concern, 1940, p. 20.  [GJ - Denying the efficacy of the Word has made the Enthusiasts of all Lutheran groups the best of buddies and the snuggliest of bed-mates. They have to silence those who are appalled.]