Saturday, April 10, 2010

That Other Core - ELCA's Dissenting Group


Stan Olson, with a PhD in New Testament,
is leading ELCA's transition to a lavender ministerium.
This is part of a larger photo from the 2009 convention.


One ELCA blogger was gloating over his synod having two separate escape routes:
1. LCMC, which overlaps the Word Alone Network, and
2. Lutheran Core, which was quite visible at the 2009 convention and started on the path of creating another denomination, hosted by two former ELCA bishops. After poisoning the food for decades, the geezer bishops want to be the new chefs!

In fact, there was already established, some years ago, the equivalent of LCMC, called the
Lutheran Ministerium and Synod - USA.

They are meeting next week. They would never get into WELS, because the theme this year is The Means of Grace - For You. Meanwhile, Patterson's district is beating the dead horse of UOJ shortly after.

There are other groups, too, created from congregations leaving ELCA.

Every day is a new story on a congregation leaving ELCA or congregations being kicked out of associating with LCMC. If you look over the LCMC site, their congregations are very large and well established. I recall from LCA days that almost all the synod income came from the big churches with their low debt and low overhead (cost per member). In California, too, the big congregations are leaving fast.

ELCA will continue, but rejoicing over a variety of exit strategies will not get them the vitality they threw away with such gusto in 2009.

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Professor Paul Hinlickey, ELCA:

Word on the street confirms the appeal of Nestigen’s argument. Receipts to the ELCA are said to be down by 30+%; more than one ELCA seminary is in imminent danger of bankruptcy. In my own synod, under the leadership of a sound bishop who thanklessly sought a unity-saving compromise in August, not only was there a significant 2009 shortfall, but proportionate giving to the ELCA has now been cut from 50.6% to 36% (among other budget slashing moves locally) for the coming year. Congregational pledges to the Virginia Synod for 2010 in turn are down a half a million dollars, something like 25%. In an astonishing two-page letter from the Synod appealing for help, the name “ELCA” was named only once, in a curious paragraph telling the long history of the Virginia Synod through its various predecessor bodies. The pitch: no love lost with the ELCA, but that is not really who we are here, locally, anyway. A similar story is being repeated in many other synods. In statu embarassmentionis.

Also for those who support the ELCA’s heterodoxy. They also now choose to designate their benevolence accordingly. The trust is just gone. So we are all, like it or not, in this de facto situation now of congregationalism. Consequently, in statu embarassmentionis.

As I mentioned, my own embarrassment is that I am not voluntarily going to leave the ELCA. But neither will I in any way cooperate in “Churchwide’s” dysfunction any longer, and my non-cooperation will be a matter of the public witness of an ordained servant of the Word. I will insist upon my rights after 30+ years of service, and I will gladly continue in my congregation and other local ministries, but I will never again contribute a solitary dime, one volunteer hour, a prayer (except in the manner of praying for one’s enemies), or act of good will on behalf of this theological and moral bankruptcy. Thus I am going to act on my “bound conscience” in this de facto debacle of congregationalism that has been thrust upon us. I will work actively in Lutheran CORE for the new configuration of American Lutheranism that will someday emerge from these ruins.

Seminex role in ELCA decline.

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Jungkuntz moved from WELS' itty-bitty college
to Missouri's Springfield seminary
to Provost of an ALC university.
Apostasy pays,
while orthodoxy prays.

Satan's Sex Ed - Groeschel Program at WELS' The CORE


This is from Groeschel's free program,
available here. <==Mequon graduates,
left click on the link.

Satan's Sex Ed
View this series. Series ID: 90
4 week series
"Do you ever wonder what really makes the difference between good sex, bad sex, and great sex? And what about those awkward topics that few people discuss openly? We've come a long way since the days when TV couples like Ward and June Cleaver slept in separate beds... and today's kids aren't nearly as innnocent (sic) as Wally and the Beaver. Sometimes it's the things you have to unlearn about sex that help you understand what great sex really is.
Click below to explore this series."

Groeschel cannot spell either, so that must make him doubly attractive to WELS.


Ski downloaded the graphic and added the misspelled promo.


If the WELS pastors were not so lazy, they would study all of Groeschel's programs and shut these things down.

But no, they only shun those who tell the truth.

What denomination is Groeschel?

What does he teach about the efficacy of the Word and the Means of Grace?

Where does Ski get the money to spend $250,000 to channel Groeschel?

Are the DPs afraid of offending a few big-money liberals, the Jeske stable of donors? If so, they have exchanged their heritage for very thin soup indeed.

God is using these false teachers to punish WELS, Missouri, and the ELS. Instead of pointing at ELCA and tongue-clucking, these leaders should be saying, "We are one decade away from being exactly like ELCA."

But why listen to someone who has a real education and has seen it all happen?

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bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Satan's Sex Ed - Groeschel Program at WELS' The CO...":

It's a strange juxtaposition to have Ski handing out pictures of himself next to scantily clad youth culture icons, and then talking about sex ed in church. That's not something husbands should do if they want to stay married.

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wildcard (http://wildcard.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Satan's Sex Ed - Groeschel Program at WELS' The CO...":

Ski's actions show just how intellectually bankrupt he is.

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rhs (http://rhs.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Satan's Sex Ed - Groeschel Program at WELS' The CO...":

I have been wondering, too. Did Glende and Ski ever graduate?

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GJ - WELS is consistent in having its self-described College of Ministry broadcast a plagiarized gay video with a stolen soundtrack. Meanwhile, one of their graduates promotes a plagiarized sex ed program.

The Party-in-the-MLC videographers faked repentance while uploading their video to Facebook. They minced to the beat of a different drummer, but they forgave those troglodytes who misunderstood them.

Ski may go and do likewise. One cannot but notice his genius in opposing all the doctrines of his synod--except UOJ--while enjoying a full-time female assistant to do his work and attend Schwaermer conferences with him.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Satan's Sex Ed - Groeschel Program at WELS' The CO...":

Important to see that these are symptoms and not the disease itself. Departure from God's Word is the disease which is systemic in the Lutheran Synods. Ski/Glende and The Core, MLC gay culture/secret culture, financing abortion through Thrivent, financing murder globaly through Thrivent dispersing money to LWR (Lutheran World Relief), perversion of the Gospel with the new gospel of UOJ, apathetic laity and milktoast synod administration are all a symptom of the disease.

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GJ - UOJ gives WELS its Antinomian, lawless character. Everyone knows - anything goes. The affectation shown to the outside world is one of morbid Pietism, such as warning people away from watching Lawrence Welk because they sing religious songs - hence watching that show is unionism. I am not kidding! The same future pastor who warned people away from Welk was shown to be a pathological liar while serving as a flack for a sex offender.

The CLC (sic) is an experiment in seeing how far morbid Pietism can go (American Legion? Unionism!) while condoning adultery, incest, and a rat's nest of false doctrine.

All the UOJ advocates are long on deceit and sanctimony while short on the basics of Christian doctrine.


Freddy Finkelstein Has Returned




His disappearance was more mysterious than Joe Bonano's, but at least he is filling us in about it, unlike Joe:


http://freddyfinkelstein.blogspot.com/