Saturday, September 24, 2011

Brett Meyer - A Reason To Weigh In about Justification


Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Stormtroopers Retreating from Their Death-Star...":

The main reason everyone should weigh in on the doctrine of UOJ is that it is a new and different gospel than the Gospel declared in Scripture and clearly and fully addressed in the BOC.

Nothing else needs to proceed from the false gospel of UOJ to further the separation of those who confess it from Christ and the forgiveness of sins that comes, by grace, through faith in Him alone. The fact that all manner of abhorent doctrines, behaviors and contradictions eminate from this doctrinal dung heap is simply part and parcel of it's essence and it's war on Christ and His Church.

In Christ,
Brett Meyer

1 comments:

LPC said...

Dear Friends,

I am enjoying the recent exchange at the Intrepid web site. I need some amusement from time to time. So I get out of the world of formulas etc and into the real world.

One of the first papers I studied when I started looking more about UOJ (as alerted by Dr. Ichabod) was the paper written by Dr. Marquart. Frankly, I do not think Dr. Marquart untangled the mess of UOJ by that paper. It failed to convince me at least. If he did, I won't be one of those weighing negatively towards UOJ today.

Looking at history, there was no confusion on the side of the Lutherans since BoC, about faith or the view that it can be synergistic at all.

According to Pr. Jay Webber, the OJ/SJ terminology was designed to counter the synergism of Scandinavian Lutherans.

This is an interesting comment, because I would have thought that if a Lutheran is confused, he needs to be encouraged towards the BoC formulation in a positive way, rather than invent new categories and such and tilt the person over a quasi-univeralistic view of justification.

Here is the Webber quote:
If righteousness has been proclaimed upon humanity's substitute, then righteousness has in fact been proclaimed upon humanity. In the resurrection of Christ, as he stood in the place of all humanity, he was justified. That is, he was declared to be righteous and was vindicated as the representative of all humanity. This means that in him, and in his resurrection, all humanity was thereby justified. In him all humanity was declared to be righteous and was vindicated.

Romans 4:25 is surely in view behind this remark, which Pieper and Company, got the exegesis wrong.

LPC