Jetski, aka John Jeske, aka Jumpin' Jack aka Jester

This bus runs on NIV fuel and is driven with Enthusiasm.


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Mequon Prof. Jetski was one of the translators for the first NIV translation. So no doubt C&C has a big attachment to the NIV. Also, C&G wants to fend off the idea that the Jetski clan doesn't have the Sidam Touch where everything they touch goes heretical. See links below:

Sidam Touch:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Sidam%20Touch

The opposite of The Midas Touch, which turns everything to gold, The Sidam Touch breaks and or ruins everything.

Jeski Jetski:

http://www.cheapjetski.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/jet-ski.jpg

Jeske participation NIV translation site:wlsessays.net

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=jeske+site:wlsessays.net&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&source=hp&q=Jeske%20participation%20NIV%20translation%20%20site%3Awlsessays.net&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=104ae468c6e9bd24&biw=1111&bih=829&pf=p&pdl=500

WELS Irreformable

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The WELS is irreformable, as the MLC homoerotic video incident attests. SP Schroeder even went to bat for the offenders saying it was a spoof on gaydom, probably due to reasons of extended family nepotism. If someone complains about anything, whatever is abusive will be explained away as being harmless, and the complainer will be summarily booted out of the WELS, or semi-shunned, where he might as well have been booted out.

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GJ - The convention should not have shocked the Intrepids. SP Schroeder showed his colors when he failed to nix the Martin Luther College homosexual video and forced Herman Otten to print a retraction, even an apology, for printing the truth about the debacle.

The video was taped and shown at Martin Luther College, their School of Ministry. The participants proudly uploaded it to YouTube for everyone to see. When a reaction set in, started by comments and a link from a WELS layman, the students began whining at Wisconsin Lutheran College, the twin-sister of MLC in promoting Church Growth Enthusiasm. The students offered to forgive me for posting the truth about their plagiarism. They "did not know" the original video was gay, they claimed--in print--in the WLC student paper. Yes, I got a copy of their lies, in black and white.

They did not know the original was gayer than lavender tights? They should be kicked out for being bad liars, since lying is simply a sport in WELS.

SP Schroeder trotted out a new excuse for Christian News. Now these poor innocent WELSian lambs--who previously knew not gaity when they saw men from Fire Island (a gay resort) prancing around on a Miley Cyrus video--were deliberately mocking homosexuals.So they did know what they were doing, and that made it just fine in Schroeder's eyes - and in Otten's!

The video can be seen on YouTube and on their precious Facebook page, where they brag about it.

I suggest being careful about Googling the topic. Copies of the MLC version got around and began showing up on websites overly fond of Judy Garland and Liberace.

Why Evangelize a Forgiven, Absolved, Saved World?

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Rev. Charles Westra of the Board for Home Missions just said at the WELS convention: "when Christ died on the cross he declared the world 'not guilty' of sin."

My question to you Rev. Westra: Why do mission work, if the world has been declared 'not guilty."

UOJ is indeed foundational to WELS philosophy of ministry.

Spam Filter Misdirection

Comments went into the spam filter for email, so a quiet night was really quite active. I will check to make sure all comments are posted.

No one was excommunicated. In fact, I welcome comments from opponents as well as friends.

Problem Solved

I never discussed using Christian Worship, knowing how the Liberal Book of Weirdness promised so much and delivered so little. Recently I had to listen to "This Is the Feast" and could not get over the monotony of the song. I have been using The Lutheran Hymnal since 1987.

Pope Paul the Unlearned has discovered the one-year (historic) lectionary lately. I have used that non-stop since 1987. The Gospels and Epistles match the Lenker set of Luther's sermons. Those with the newer set of Luther's sermons have the house sermons included, so even more material is available.

Now that the entire Lutheran enterprise is using the Roman Catholic three-year cycle, some are admitting that it may not be a good idea.

I was stuck with the NIV in WELS, because it was universal in all their publications. However, LI kept reminding me of the poor quality of the NIV, which he heard about in classes at Northwestern College (RIP). Someone got me started on the KJV on the computer at Trinity in Bridgeton, about 1992, and I have used it since.

Here is a good solution for the Lutheran sects, mini-sects, and micro-mini sects:

1. Study the origin of the Tyndale-King James Version of the Bible and Luther's direction connection with it.


2. Adopt the KJV franchise as the main Bible for all purposes.


3. If the flesh is weak, pick one modern KJV for general use.

In a Bible study or catechism class, various translation philosophies simply add to confusion. Does the typical pastor really know how the ESV, NIV, and Beck differ in their approach? He or she could call it the Babel Class.

They do not clarify anything.  The modern KJVs use the original (1800s version) as their model, so they are all quite similar. Some people are allergic to thee and thou. I cannot change that. But those slight changes make little difference in a group when all have the same original model as their basis.  The boneheads in charge of these decisions should be driven out of town and pelted with dog manure, as our Confessions state. They have two glaring faults:

1. They have no grasp of the English language, only synod politics.
2. They do not comprehend Biblical, Lutheran doctrine.

Crucial Endorsement for Time of Grace: Leading Lutheran District President. So There! Sour Pusses

According to his own narrative, Missouri DP Al Benke invited himself to the
Yankee Stadium all-religious religious service.
He was temporarily suspended by Missouri.
Dan Preus refused to deal with it, so Wally Schulz wrote the report suspending Benke.
Schulz was canned and Benke was restored.
A few LCMS pastors started ELDONA as a result.


DP Al Benke:
My understanding of Time of Grace as an urban outreach venture was colored some by standing in that revolving restaurant at the top of the Hyatt in Milwaukee with Mark Jeske as he pointed out where the church and ministries were located and what they do in terms of school and neighborhood mission.  But, having received and read the Time of Grace Magazine this week, it is also plainly a ministry of teaching.  And I found the teaching in the magazine to be straightforward-ly Lutheran.  I don't know who the concerned folks are in WELS, but the teaching I read on Baptism was all about, well, grace. 

WELS Intrepids, post-convention.


My own view would be that from the Missouri perspective Mark Jeske and Time of Grace would be a great vessel to bring about closer cooperation between the two denominations not only in extrenals but in teaching.  Mission-oriented, urban, word and deed, and highly visible.  Along with promoting the necessity of the 10 year Koinonia process in Missouri, I am going to spend some of my energy promoting the inextricable connections between confessional and missional in Missouri.  Mark Jeske - contemporary worship forms and all - is a great example in my opinion of that inextricable connection.  Their plan is to have a new Time of Grace station in LA, which again I think is fantastic.  Multi-site outreach shepherded in this way is another appropriate and necessary part of the missional/confessional intersection.  This site, alpb, is dramatically to almost completely unrepresented when it comes to the missional (no, I don't like the word either) or large church perspective.  In that regard, the alpb is pretty much homogeneous and on the Missouri side of the dialog is missing a ton of highly energized practitioners, some of them doing work like that of Mark Jeske.