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In his report, Hanson said the theme reflects how the 4.2 million-member church is a church deeply rooted in Scripture. "If we lose our deep rootedness in Scripture, in the Lutheran Confessions, in the church and in Christ, we will lose confidence in the Holy Spirit. We will lose faith," he said."

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Mueller agrees with ELCA and making everything new.
UOJ is why WELS influenced ELCA's formation, via Watertown professor Richard Jungkuntz

Humpty Dumpty Threatens in Private - Makes False and Slanderous Accusations. I Respond in Public

Jack Kilcrease asked for his own Photoshop.
Has he thanked me? No.

jackkilcrease@hotmail.com

10-19-2012

Dr. Jackson,

I think we can be both honest that it was you who sent a mass e-mail to my employer about my list of favorite movies on my blog. I removed some of them even before I saw your article (Joel Lillo told me about your post only later) not because I'm ashamed in any way of my choices (in fact, it never even occurred to me that anyone would care!), but because I just didn't want to cause any trouble for my employer if people misunderstood my tastes. BTW, people at the Institute didn't take it seriously at all. They initially actually believed your name was Ronald McGovern and google searched you. They found a person who had recent fallen out of a building and been subject to a major head trauma, and so, the theory went for a while, that this person who had done this was suffering from a major brain injury. Another person thought it was simply "some psychotic" (direct words). So, this didn't do me any damage. I'm still on to teach New Testament survey next semester and they tell me that they're looking forward to meeting me in a few days at the conference.

Let me come to the point of my e-mail. I think that if your honest with yourself, you will recognize what you did is very sinful. In fact, impersonating someone and trying to get a person fired is in the region of criminal behavior. Following Matthew 18, I call you to repent from this sinful act. You may think that I am a sinful person for liking Kill Bill or whatever, but that's not a justification for lying about who you are and trying to harm me out of revenge. Whatever I've done, your actions are clearly sinful. Period.

Beyond that, I have fairly strong evidence of your sin. I've saved your admission on my blog that it was you. I've saved the harassing blog post you put up at the same time the e-mail was sent (not a coincidence). I've saved your e-mail itself. I have roughly 900 friends on Facebook and a pretty good readership on my blog. If I so desired, I can share all these pieces of evidence and reveal your sin to the whole world. BTW, I'm not embarrassed about any of the evidence. I think that you thought that you were going to embarrass me. But, in my world, who doesn't watch Quentin Tarratino movies? Many of my pastor friends have the same lists as I do. People view your attempt to get me fired as pretty crazy. My boss said in an e-mail response "I have no problem with your taste in movies."

Bear in mind, there are a lot of more moderate people who like you and what you’re about that would feel disgusted by your behavior in this incident. Also, your hardcore followers, even the most loyal ones, are going to have a very, very hard time with this. I have a hard time even seeing Brett Meyer say "Well, Dr. Jackson had to lie about his identity and try to get Jack fired. That's what Jesus would do." What you did is very hard to defend.

Now, I suppose you could lie and say that Ron Smith isn't you- right? You were a little ambiguous in your admission, so that could give a Brett Meyer some wiggle room.

But again, this would be another lie. Do you think that God would approve of this? What do you think Jesus would do? Do you think that Jesus is on your side and approves your behavior? Seriously.

I don't want to embarrass or hurt you. I believe that God calls us not to take revenge on others. So, I'm offering you a deal.

My side: I will not write a blog post about the incident and expose your criminal and dishonest behavior. I will also either edit or remove any posts that mention you (For example: in the "Rydecki Situation" post, I will remove references to you and what I think of your manner of argumentation). I will also never mention you on Facebook or on my blog again. I will of course continue to criticize your ideas, but I will not talk about you and your rhetoric specifically. I will also never comment on your blog again, and I won't comment on any of the blogs of your followers.

Your side: By October 31, you need to remove any reference to me on your blog. You need to erase all posts about my person or family members. The one exception is that you can still keep "Kilcreasing" as a word in your theological dictionary. I'm giving you until the end of the month so that you can save face with your followers and so that they don't notice the elimination of these posts. I know you need to save face with them. This is America after all, and you are of course free to continue to criticize my ideas. In fact I invite it. I will continue to criticize your theology as well. Nevertheless, you need to attack ideas and not people. I will do the same thing.

[GJ - The threat! Oh Noes!]
If you do not take this deal, I will reproduce your e-mail, the comment on my blog and the other evidence on my blog and on Facebook. I will explain to everyone what you did and, again, I'm having a hard time seeing how even the people most loyal to you will be able to defend this.

There's no need to respond to this e-mail (you of course can, if you want). I will monitor your blog and see if my name category and the posts in general mentioning me are gone by November 1st. If they are not, I will do what I have to do. If by November 1st you do take them down, I will at that point edit my blog and purge it of any reference to you or your followers.

All the best,

Jack Kilcrease.

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PS - More Kilcrease delusions:

Dr. Jack KilcreaseOctober 20, 2012 8:04 AM

Dr. Jackson (as both Guerilla Lutheran and Ron Smith),

If you want to contact my department head at Aquinas, I highly encourage you to do that. I'm certain he will take you very seriously. My wife definitely wants you to do it. She would find his reaction especially amusing. So knock yourself out!

Of course, Dr. Jackson, we all know that seriously theologians lie about their identity and try to get people who they disagree with fired. That's what Jesus would do, right?

[GJ - I did not post anything to Kilcrease's odious blog. I suggest sealing all airplane glue containers tight before writing, Jack. It will help the clarity of your thought.

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GJ - Poor Jack. I did not do anything more than reproduce his list of favorite films, from his blog. Like others, he is offended when his published information is published.

I thought it was odd that his list of films changed soon after I mccained it. He imagines that I wrote to his blog. I do not write to any blogs. Why would I want to associate myself with his Dreck?

No, I did not contact his ELCA online seminary. Why would I? The list of films is typical for ELCA clergy, and Jack was trained by ELCA - college and seminary both. He finished at that Jesuit school in Milwaukee, Brickette or something like that.

Jack is welcome to run a search on the emails, since I do not use fake names or fake emails. 

The odd thing is the assumption of lying, false identity, criminal intent. Those are serious charges. He probably knows that his pal Paul McCain did what he is accusing me of, on Tim Glende's anonymous blog. Joel Lillo, another Appleton WELS pastor, used to post there too. The Glende blog folded soon after the attack aimed at me. It was not worth noticing, even though it was indeed illegal and lawsuit-worthy. I find it interesting that the Appleton gang is so close to ELCA types, back and forth, real friendly-like. I wonder if they get any work done, between moving The CORE from place to place.

Jack's deal is as funny as his threats. Everyone keeps saying my blog is not read and does not matter, but the efforts to silence me are constant.

I want ELCA pastors to waste their money learning drivel from Jack Kilcrease. I want his blog to produce more and more bilge. Glende's surrender and silence has left me short of material some days. Could it be that Kilcrease was also posting on Glende's blog? Not that it matters.

I am still trying to sort out the accusations above. If there is nothing wrong with making Boogie Nights a favorite film, why erase it from the list? If there is nothing wrong, according to the ELCA seminary online, why fuss about it?

If someone complained my favorite film was Music Man, with Robert Preston, I would smirk, not issue threats and deals.

Watch my blog, everyone, and see nothing disappear. 

Jack has emulated his bosom buddy Paul McCain in making personal attacks against me in various places, often where I would never see them. My wife caught him at it on Facebook. His response was not an apology but a long, accusing message, followed by blocking her so she could not no longer see what he was up to. We laugh about the puerile behavior of both UOJ stylists.

My only mission is to convert nominal Lutherans to Luther's doctrine. Jack is a hard sell - I confess.

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bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Humpty Dumpty Threatens in Private - Makes False a...":

Yup, a UOJer would like the movies that Jack Kilcrease likes, and also not be afraid to publish the list on his blog in an anti-Pietist fashion, or should we say, antinomian fashion:

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/10/profile-of-jack-kilcrease-theologian-of.html

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Guerilla Lutheran has left a new comment on your post "Humpty Dumpty Threatens in Private - Makes False a...":

Open Letter to monkey-Dr. Jack Kilcrease,

I laughed out loud at your letter to Dr. Jackson. Precious. You talk about how nobody cares about your cinematographical antinomialistic indiscretions.

The "Theologian" doth protest too much.

Yes, it was I, not Dr. Jackson. I contacted your employer about your favorite movies because I was bored by your rhetoric. Your talk of *sin* is really over the top. I sign up for an anon email address and you call it sin? Boogie Nights??!!! I just figured a Christian College would want to know the sort of immorality one of their Adjunct professors was promoting. I would've contacted Aquinas too, if their name had been mentioned in your Google profile. As I compile the email addresses of the Board of Directors of ILT, with the intent of mass emailing them as well, I must confess, I am considering emailing Prof. Marko at Aquinas as well.

The other reason I contacted one of your employers about your Favorite movies is because you had the audacity to presume to teach a man like Pastor Rydecki, a faithful Christian pastor who is "risking it all" to question a dubious version of justification. (Something tells me he doesn’t enjoy the same movies you do.) You also have the audacity to presume to teach anyone else! Your favorite films illustrate that you lack Christian discernment; not only in their own perversity's sake, but also in that you are not even aware that you ought to be ashamed for enjoying them. In moments of weakness, I believe, all Christians do things or enjoy things they know to be wrong. The difference between you and I is that I am ashamed of those things. You publish them as "favorites".

UOJ is most certainly a Satanic lie. I hope you don a cloak of humility and read (before rebutting) what men like Dr. Jackson and Pr. Rydecki have to contribute. By professing that it is not purity and Innocence, but faith that grants a person heaven, you are making Faith a false god. That is dangerous. In reality, righteousness is the thing that God demands, and by his Grace he offers it to us in Christ’s sacrifice, through faith. This Righteousness (through faith) is accredited to the individual, but the righteousness is won by Christ; and the faith created in us by the Holy Spirit. I’ve said it poorly, but I hope you read those who’ve taught me.

But let me address one last thing. Let’s ponder a comparison between two courses of action: 1 Taking on a false name to expose a bona fide false teacher. 2. Publishing your real name and your real ungodly immoral tastes in film while attempting to belittle those thrice your age with thrice your wisdom.

Hmm…

Ron (alias) the guerilla Lutheran

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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Humpty Dumpty Threatens in Private - Makes False a...":

This is what I notice about UOJers, they are happy to show how antinomian they can be and proud of it too.

For example I heard a UOJ pastor at Issues etc one time say that he purposely drinks alcohol in front of Babtist ministers. St. Paul said we should not flaunt our liberty so I do not understand why the apparent need to offend other people.

LPC

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GJ - You are right, Dr. Cruz. Steadfast Waltherians sponsor a juvenile No Pietists Allowed section. The Missouri Synod was founded as a Pietistic sex cult to provide cover for Bishop Martin Stephan, STD, leaving his sick wife and children. Walther and the other ex-clergy pledged lifelong obedience to their syphilitic bishop.

Pietism is not the banning of cigars and booze, but the organization of life around cell groups, which was Stephan's speciality and WELS-LCMS' new love in the Church Growth Movement.

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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Humpty Dumpty Threatens in Private - Makes False a...":

I also notice that Jack has a very wild imagination and he uses deduction a lot.

How can one assume that person X is impersonating person Y through an email?

What led him to such deduction?

LPC

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GJ - Dr. Cruz - do not look for an apology from Jack Kilcrease!

Luther and John 1:29 - Commentary - Galatians 3:13

Crown of Thorns, by Norma Boeckler
http://www.normaboecklerart.com

KJV Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Galatians Commentary, Kregel edition, p. 163f.

Cliffnotes for UOJ Enthusiasts.

Luther wrote this section against the papalists who denied that Christ was made a curse for us (p. 163).

All the weight of the argument falls on the phrase "for us" (p. 164). If this is denied, that He was made a curse for us, then comfort is taken from the message of the cross.

Luther:
"But we must wrap  Christ, and know Him to be wrapped in our sins, in our malediction, in our death, and in all our evils, as He is wrapped in our flesh and blood.

But some man will say, it is absurd and slanderous to call the Son of God a cursed sinner. I answer, if thou wilt deny Him to be a sinner and accursed, deny also that He was crucified and dead. For it is no less less absurd to say that the Son of God (as our faith confesseth and believeth) was crucified and suffered the pains of sin and death, than to say that He is a sinner and accursed." (p. 165)

St. John called Him "the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world." John 1:29 (p. 165f)

This verse Luther connects with Isaiah 53:6


KJV Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the
LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

The Holy Spirit speaks in the person of Christ in Psalm 40.

KJV Psalm 40:12 For innumerable evils have compassed me about: mine iniquities have taken hold upon
me, so that I am not able to look up; they are more than the hairs of mine head: therefore my heart faileth me.

Luther:
"For this testimony is not the voice of an innocent, but of a suffering Christ, who took upon Him to bear the person of all sinners, and therefore was made guilty of the sins of the whole world." (p. 166)

"And this is a singular consolation for all Christians, so to clothe Christ with our sins, and to wrap Him in my sins, thy sins, and the sins of the whole world, and so to behold Him bearing all our iniquities." (p. 166f.)

At this point Luther expounded on the real meaning of John 1:29, not the absolution of the world of unbelievers.

Luther:
"Now sin being vanquished and death abolished by this one Man, God would see nothing else in the whole world, if it did believe it, but a mere cleansing and righteousness. And if any remnants of sin should remain, yet for the great glory that is in Christ, God would not see them." (p. 168)

The importance of this argument can be seen in the next section.

Luther:
"But now let us see by what means these two things, so contrary and repugnant, may be reconciled in this one person Christ. Not only my sins and thine, but the sins of the whole world, past, present, or to come, take hold upon Him, go about to condemn Him, and do indeed condemn Him. But because in the self-same person, who is the highest, the greatest, and the only sinner, there is also an invincible and everlasting righteousness; therefore these two do encounter together, the highest, the greatest, and the only sin, and the highest, the greatest, and the only righteousness." (p. 168f.)

Luther often portrayed Jesus as the Hero, the great Hercules who battled Satan and won in a ferocious battle, showing that this was indeed the conflict of the ages, throwing all the punishment of sin for all time against the Son of God.

Luther:
"Forasmuch then as Christ reigneth by His grace in the hearts of the faithful, there is no sin, no death, no curse; but where Christ is not known, there all these things do still remain. Therefore all they who believe not, do lack this inestimable benefit and glorious victory. For (as St. John saith), "this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith." 1 John 5:4." (p. 170)

Luther is arguing against the papal doctrine of works added to faith, fides formata, faith formed by love. This applies with the same force against Universal Objective Justification, because the UOJ Enthusiasts are the greatest, windiest, most burdensome salesmen of works the world has even seen.

They are always bragging about their great accomplishments--which are few, meager, and subsidized by others. They constantly motivate their foolish disciples with the whip of the Law, telling them that thousands are going to Hell because they have not done enough. And they foam at the mouth against justification by faith, because it robs them of their self-glory, self-esteem, and self-centeredness.

Luther:
"Let us receive this most sweet doctrine, so full of comfort, with thanksgiving, and with an assured faith, which teacheth that Christ being made a curse for us, (that is a sinner under the wrath of God), did put upon Himself our person, and laid our sins upon His own shoulders, saying, "I have committed the sins which all men have committed." Therefore He was made a curse indeed according to the law, not for Himself, but, as Paul saith, for us." (p. 171)

What does this say about Walther, Pieper, and the Synodical Conference? They are blatantly anti-Luther, anti-Gospel, and false teachers.

They constantly cite Romans 4:25 for UOJ (but never Romans 4:24). They chant John 1:29 to teach the opposite of the Evangelist's message. They call justification by faith "Calvinism," while they are enrolling themselves at Fuller Seminary, Gordon Conwell, Trinity Divinity, and the gay activist Drive Conferences.

Is that Paul Calvin Kelm driving the hay wagon?
Why yes it is.
WELS has really beaten him savagely for his published false doctrine
and public embrace of false teachers.
Synod President Mark Schroeder has kept Kelm employed at one synodical job after another.
"We're getting more Confessional."
More to confess, but not more Confessional.

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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Luther and John 1:29 - Commentary - Galatians 3:13...":

Ichabod -

I quote Luther from your blog posting:

>>>>> Luther:
"Forasmuch then as Christ reigneth by His grace in the hearts of the faithful, there is no sin, no death, no curse; but where Christ is not known, there all these things do still remain. Therefore all they who believe not, do lack this inestimable benefit and glorious victory. For (as St. John saith), "this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith." 1 John 5:4." (p. 170) <<<<<<

I see the LCMS and the WELS wrapping their denominations in their ragged security blanket foundation of the inferior translation and understanding of John 1:29. I just heard that erroneous understanding manifested yesterday when taking my grandson home from Bethel Lutheran School. He sang a song he learned at school with the wording that Jesus "takes my sins away," - not the song wording rendering the correct translation which says that Christ bare the sins of the whole world.

Then, just recently, I saw an online comment from an adult individual which stated:

"I am perfect on the level of Christ himself through imputed righteousness (Rom 4)" [His words]

To that, I responded:

"You sound like an acquaintance of mine who expresses what you do by saying he has "sovereign immunity." And, then, he goes as far to conclude that he "can't sin" since he is so imbedded in the imputed righteousness of Christ. So, goes his understanding......." [My words]

I've stated before here on Ichabod and in one of my most recent topical messages how the youth are indoctrinated in universal objective justification. Lutheran schools lack Scripture's teaching of justification by faith alone. This (aforementioned) adult (I presume) is (sadly and pathetically) just another Universalist product of the same schooling.

I leave this comment with a three informational links, to support aforementioned comment thoughts:

"Pastor Nathan Bickel on UOJ in WELS. Aaron Frey Still Preaching in WELS. How Far Will He Go?”
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/07/pastor-nathan-bickel-on-uoj-in-wels.html

Part 1: The false teaching which molests the faith of Christians
http://www.thechristianmessage.org/2012/09/part-1-false-teaching-which-molests.html

Part 2: How does the false teaching of universal objective justification molest Christians’ faith?
http://www.thechristianmessage.org/2012/09/part-2-how-does-false-teaching-of.html

Pastor emeritus Nathan M. Bickel
Bay City, MI - Bethel Lutheran / WELS

www.thechrisianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org