Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Kudu Don Patterson and the Cone of Uncertainty



Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Don and the Cone of Uncertainty

Central Texas has been at the mercy of a dome of high pressure this summer; suppressing any chance for the development of rain.  The scenario self-perpetuates itself by intense heating during the day that the rising ground temperatures feed the atmospheric heating therefore feeding the upper level high and exacerbating the situation further.  Experts say that a strong storm off the Gulf of Mexico would help to break down the pattern and provide some relief to the intense drought...as unfortunate as that might be with the inevitable destruction that comes with these storms.  As of this evening, Austin and much of the area is in the 'cone of uncertainty' and is hopeful...prayerful that we will see some relief.

According to the Holy Word Website, a Voter's Meeting has been set for Sunday, August 28th, 2011.

May the Good Lord provide relief.


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GJ - Those pastors who teach justification by faith do not need bunny rabbits in their ads to promote Easter services.

He Promotes the NNIV for the KJV's 400th,
So He Will Promote the Reformation's 500th?
Hahahahahaha!

"I would rather have Larry Olson chair the committee. Seriously."



"Rev. John Braun, chairman of the Reformation 500 committee that was appointed by the COP in 2009, shared what plans are being put into place to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the Reformation in 2017. Some of these plans include area Reformation rallies, a celebratory book of essays, a new video on the life of Martin Luther, as well as a series of Bible studies and special services."

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Re: WELS 2011 Convention 7/25-7/29
« Reply #58 on: Today at 06:03:48 PM »
The most egregious application of the unit concept I have ever experienced was after my father's funeral.   Dad was Missourian, and Mom WELS.  They were members of an LCMS parish and baptized (and catechized some)  their first six kids in their LCMS parish.  Mom transferred to a WELS parish before the SC split, but dad was not big on attending church, only for funerals and weddings.

When dad died in 1981, we approached our WELS pastor about burying him from the funeral home, but he said no, so my aunt's LCMS pastor agreed to it (her parish was where dad last held membership) and buried him.  The WELS pastor attended the funeral, and admonished me (at the after funeral luncheon) for our participation in the prayers, hymns and service.   I had to ask him to back off and leave Ma' alone..

Romantic Comic Left Behind by ELS Observer


Ukraine Heretic Speaking at WELS Convention


Slide from the Ukraine - "Without WELS, the Word would not be as effective."

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GJ - I was watching and thought, "I'll bet John Shep is going to phone me." A short time ago, John Shep phoned and said, "You probably thought I was going to phone you."

He had some questions for your evening discussion:

1. Is the ULC bishop still on the payroll of Lutheran Heritage, a Missouri RSO?
2. Does the bishop have a 6,000 square foot home?
3. If the ministers are without shoes and clothing, why are they wearing them in photos and vacationing in Italy?

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Ukraine Heretic Speaking at WELS Convention":

The second and third questions seem to explain, "Without WELS, the Word would not be as effective"

The laity are getting a good shellacking during this convention! If WELS had a dollar for every compliment given to the incompetent Bible selection committee they'd be debt free - doctrinally broke mind you - but debt free.

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GJ - The compliments were really the standard way of getting into criticism. One must start, hat-in-hand, pleading ignorance, speaking in a halting voice, and denying any possible negative inference from what is coming. The only one who did not do that was their lone supporter, who launched into his confused defense of the NNIV.

So the compliments were just a prelude to the real content. I heard voices cracking with emotion, although quietly expressed, which told me how enraged they were. Naumann was one example.

Two DPs spoke against adopting the NNIV now, which was the sole agenda item of the Changers Translation Commissars.

By far, the strongest speech was DP Glaeske's "Slouching Toward Gomorrah" comparison. If examined closed, it was brutal, especially coming from a senior DP. He made the cultural comparison, that the NNIV was aimed our current culture, then moved to the book by Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork - Slouching Toward Gomorrah.

Babylon would be negative enough for WELS, but Sodom and Gomorrah represent the absolute pit of immorality in the Old and New Testaments. Look up the passages in your NIV, gentle readers.

DP Glaeske asked whether WELS wanted to go down that road and whether WELS would be stranded there. The sect made a grave mistake in adopting the NIV and persecuting/abandoning the KJV. Those who practice BOHICA get BOHICA in return. Billionaire Left Murdoch owns the NIV and calls the tune.

God's judgment will be measured out upon WELS in the coming years. Look at the sound theologians forgotten and excluded. Count up the crimes of the church workers against the members - often unpunished and glossed over. Read the putrid false doctrine being promoted at every teaching node of the sect.

Brett Meyer Reveals Why the Commissars Love, Love, Love the NNIV



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AC V correctly posted this issue with the 2011 NIV earlier:

NNIV Romans 3:23,24:

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Italicized "all" is not in the original Greek. Yet the "ad fontes" WELS endorses the NNIV. In fact, the committee commending the NNIV to the synod in convention this summer highlights these verses as an improvement of the NIV.


(W)ELS Pastor Patterson will welcome this perversion of God's Word, having just excommunicated Joe and Lisa Krohn for holding to Justification by faith alone to the exclusion of forgiveness and righteousness declared by God to those without faith. They've taught the false gospel of UOJ for years, Kuske having adulterated Luther's Catechism in order to insert the anti-Christian doctrine into the section on Justification. Now they have a chance to officially use a Bible that finally teaches the doctrine.




Are they kidding?!? At least concerning the central doctrine of Justification a person could read the KJV, or even the troubled '84 NIV, and only come away, by the gracious work of the Holy Spirit, with Justification by faith in Christ alone. The KJV and NIV required the manipulated explanation of a trained UOJ false teacher to hear and believe in the false gospel. Now a small child will come away with Justification before and without faith on his own - no further Scriptural manipulation required.

Posting these verses again because they ought to ring in the ears of the Lutheran laity, clergy and synod officials.

Revelation 22:18-19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Communication by Excommunication:
WELS Apostates Sell the Latest Edsel

"This beat-down is for your own immortal soul."


The abusive Leftist sect showed its true colors yesterday. While people were hailing the re-election of their non-leader Mark Schroeder, the Biblical Porn Committee was at work.

First, let's discuss the issue by having its chief advocate, Wendland, give a solo performance on how good the NNIV is. Wendland did that in the afternoon, repeating his district convention performance.

I did not look over the agenda. Did someone get equal time to point out the glaring faults of the NNIV? I doubt it.

The whole idea of Diaprax is to allow people plenty of time to discuss what has already been decided for them. Then it becomes their decision. They join in turning against anyone who doubts the wisdom of the dramatic change.

How much friendship was offered to those who continued to plea for the KJV, when Judas Jeske led WELS to the NIV? Those KJV pastors were excommunicated, thrown out. Yet WELS bragged about using the KJV beforehand, pointing out how those nasty Commie liberals switched to modern translations.

Someone pointed out how the KJV was printed on one side of the lectionary inserts, the NIV on the other side, for a period of time. The alternative was offered, then taken away. That is a good example of hypocrisy, where the KJV is printed to lead people away from it.




The KJV is Luther's English Bible, enjoying its 400th anniversary this year, but it is really almost 500 years old. Tyndale studied under Luther and Melanchthon at Wittenberg, printed his first English Bible in Germany, and suffered a martyr's death for the Bible. WELS chooses to remain ignorant of those facts as they lust for the NNIV.

The WELS translation commissars tried this fable on their audience - The Southern Baptist convention voted against the NNIV because they wanted to sell their own Holman Christian Standard Bible.

No, the Baptists have kept the KJV alive while the Lutherans chased after Baptist mentors like Doug Moo, Ed Stetzer and C. Peter Wagner. I question whether the Holman's leaden prose will catch on anywhere. Read the 23rd Psalm in the Holman on Bible Gateway. They must have thrown darts at sheet of words to come up with such horrible phrasing.

The Baptists are rather independent, too. They are not pulled along, like sows with iron rings in their snouts. Lutherans seem to conform for a long time, but they break out on their own too. No one knows where the breaking point is.

Knocking the Baptists over money is the laugh of the week. The only argument for the NNIV is the money issue. Billionaire Murdoch will shut down the old NIV in two years, so all the WELS NIV works will have to stop too. They want an easy transition into the wretched NNIV and saving money at that. In fact, they could switch to another translation tomorrow if they wished.

Get this, innocent readers - WELS is paying to use the NIV, so WELS is part of Murdoch's cash-flow. WELS will pay for any modern translation it uses in its materials. However, since Bibles sell well and keep changing every few weeks, any change is profitable, because high sales mean every Bible sold is pure profit.


WELS scheduled one hour for the translation commissars to bat down opposition to the NNIV. The discussion lasted about two hours, revealing the transparent excuses thrown out for the NNIV being adopted.

The pathetic translation commissars referred adoringly to Douglas Moo, Wheaton College professor. His job is to promote the NNIV, so his approval is self-serving and money grubbing as well. He has long been an advocate of radical paraphrase "translations."

Those who participate in these commercial ventures get all kinds of financial rewards for them. Like Jeske, they get free trips and other benefits. They are not going to list them, but the incentives are there.

If I could get an entire denomination, even a dying one like WELS, to endorse a constant-selling book of any kind, the cash spent to land a client like that would be coffee money.

The NNIV will be a big hit in the mainlines. The WELS endorsement is more evidence that WELS has been mainline, apostate, for decades.


Fuller alumnus and WELS VP Huebner sold Edsels before.
Look for the union label.



Tuesday, July 26, 2011

WELS Discussion Overwhelmingly Against NNIV.
Translation Committee Isolated in Support of
Mytho-Porno Atrocious NNIV

WELS Seminary President Wendland
Wendland's speech in the afternoon session in favor of the NNIV was identical to his presentation at the district convention. His most important quote? "I realize that we're living in a different age, with blogs, and people may be skeptical of a committee's work..." Some recognized the pointed reference to either Intrepids or Ichabod.



Seminary professor John Jeske was the Judas goat who led WELS into the NIV as its only translation. Anyone advocating the KJV was excommunicated as a pastor.

Son Tom Jeske was moderating the discussion tonight. Another son, Mark and Avoid Jeske, was probably busy dedicating a Buddhist temple, built by Thrivent, in some wealthy suburb.

Brett Meyer let me know the discussion was live, so I tuned in. The translation review committee spoke all evening in favor of the NNIV, but the audience was not buying the sales pitch. I did not hear any support from the floor for the NNIV until the end, when one pastoral supporter gave a disjointed speech in favor of the NNIV. I believe another man said that any decision would be a blessing.

Members of the Committee to Force the NNIV on WELS are:
  1. Sausage Factory President Paul Wendland - eager to provide a smokescreen for any issue.
  2. Doctrinal Pussycat Joel Peterman - looked like he wore his hunting or fishing outfit.
  3. Miscommunication Officer John Braun - clearly scornful that anyone would disagree with him.
  4. Professor of Human Sacrifice and World Missions Kenneth Cherney Jr.
  5. Mary Lou College Professor Thomas Nass
Stop whining. You love these jokes on Ichabod. Everyone else has to be deadly serious.
Some of the defenses of the NNIV were:
1. There are no perfect translations.
2. The committee is against literal translations (but obviously in favor of Leftist paraphrases).
3. This generation must sacrifice to provide a translation for the next generation. (This was an argument for the Shrinkers' Christian Worship feminist hymnal.)
4. Anyone with a heart for outreach will support the NNIV.
5. God works His wonders through really horrible translations.
6. The Baptists are against the NNIV because it competes with their Holman.
7. The NNIV improves on the NIV in some passages. 8. McCain should not have criticized WELS for promoting the NNIV.

The audience was clearly opposed to the NNIV, for the following reasons:
1. The NNIV is divisive, so NPH will not sell many books with NNIV in them.
2. Christian bookstores are boycotting the NNIV at about a 50% rate. The owner of one told the pastor that she would not display the NNIV, only special order it if someone wanted one.
3. The addition of words was truly odious, such as adding "or sister" to references to "brother."
4. The plural pronoun is used to avoid offending the feminazis.
5. The OT prophecies are altered in favor of the scoffers.
6. There is no rush to decide now on a translation.
7. WELS could create its own version (extremely unlikely since they needed Dr. Moo to help them pick a translation). Moo chairs the ecumenical group producing the NNIV, so that was like asking Valleskey to "study" the issue of promoting the Church Growth Movement, something ol' Dave gave his life and flinty soul to do.


Silent or avoiding these issues:
1. The KJV is enjoying its 400th anniversary THIS YEAR, but was hardly mentioned at all.
2. The NIV used a lesbian advocate on its original commission.
3. The NNIV is porno, Genesis 4:1, takes a mythological view of Adam, and deletes verses of the New Testament.
4. WELS let the apostates rule in the previous decision and now thinks in terms of money for the NIV decision.
5. Ichabod - although blogs were mentioned.




Wikipedia

Douglas J. Moo (born March 15, 1950 [1]) is a New Testament scholar who, after teaching for more than twenty years at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, has served as Blanchard Professor of New Testament at the Wheaton College Graduate School since 2000. He received his Ph.D. at the University of St. Andrews, in St. Andrews, Scotland.
He has published several theological works and commentaries on the Bible; notable among them are An Introduction to the New Testament (with D.A. Carson and Leon Morris) and A Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (part of the New International Commentary on the New Testament series). His current research interests are Romans, Pauline Theology (and Exegesis) and Environmental Theology. He is also on the translation committee that produced the TNIV translation of the Bible and is a strong advocate for this translation.


WELS Adds To Its Sins 

Jim Becker Has a Suggestion 

WELS the Cutting Edge of Dumbing Down 

Ray Klatt on Translations 

WELS Church Lady on NNIV in Texas 

AC V on Grabbing St. Paul by the Shoulders and Teaching Him Justification without Faith 

Zorro on Pushing the NNIV Through...Fast

California Seconds Ray Klatt: The Main Issue - The Bible 

Southern Babtists Utterly Reject the NNIV 

Luther's Bible is the uncle of the KJV. 

Wikipedia Knows More than Mequon.

WELS editor Braun Unglued Over NNIV Objections.


The practicing lesbian on the NIV committee.

South Central District, WELS, against deciding in 2011.


The Process for Getting Rid of the KJV and Installing the NIV.

Even Paul McCain is against the NNIV. Shock!

Criminal Charges against Murdoch 

More about Bad Fathers and Bad Sons, Like Murdoch and Son 

The United Church of Christ and Feminazi Language 

WELS, McCain, and Otten Backing the Wrong Bible 

The Spirit of New Biblism - While Ignoring the 400th Anniversary of Luther's English Bible 

To Be Used at the WELS Convention - Lovin' It 

Tyndale enrolled at Wittenberg to study under Luther and Melanchthon. 

WELS Convention discussion against the NNIV. 

The English Luther Bible:

The July 18th issue of Christian News has an article about translations by WELS Pastor Mark Bartling.

He made an interesting point that will be ignored by all the Lutherans.

Bartling:

"William Tyndale (1490-1536) translated the New Testament into English from Greek. He also used Luther's German translation. In fact, Tyndale personally consulted Luther and enrolled at the University of Wittenberg in order to spend an academic year learning from Luther and his colleague Melanchthon. The first edition of Tyndale's English New Testament was published in 1526. Because it could not be pbulished in England, it was printed in Worms, Germany, a situation made possible because of Tyndale's close relationship with Luther.

In 1535 he published parts of the Old Testament translated from Hebrew. In 1536 Tyndale was captured and burned at the stake."

He noted that experts estimate that the King James Version of the Bible is 80% Tyndale.

Previously, all Lutheran hymnals in America used the KJV. Now every single sect uses a different translation.

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Facts about the CBT (Moo's Herd)

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Brett Meyer's Report on the Discussion

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Discussion Overwhelming Against NNIV. Transla...":

While watching the Convention discussion on the NNIV tonight I noticed that as each person detailed what they felt were unacceptable problems with the edition the Translation Committee members would remind everyone of the number of improvements that the translation contained over the '84 NIV. What exactly is accomplished by countering a translation problem with a fix to a problem in the previous edition? Most people commenting tonight gave direct examples where the NNIV translation changed the meaning of specific Scripture passages, God's Word.

Christ clearly states the issue is not a matter of offsetting the known problems.
Revelation 22:18-19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

One man explained how he is seeing a slouching or tenting (a reference to Lot) to Gomorrah with the continued adoption of translations which are as bad or worse than the last. There's no argument there. The words and phrasing may be difficult to understand for those new to the KJV but at least they didn't pervert and outright change God's Word as in the NIV and NNIV. There were a few people who expressed the perverse opinion that it didn't matter how bad a translation the (W)ELS adopts, God will work His will through any translation to make disciples for Christ. Really? It was interesting that Neal Schroeder, the WELS president's brother, expressed the same opinion at the 2011 Emmaus Conference. During the Q&A session he posed the opinion that the Lutheran confession, that we need to ensure the Word is purely taught and Sacraments rightly distributed, is not true. He said he's coming to the opinion that God also works through the Word wrongly taught. Seems this idea is starting to catch on.

To add to Pastor Jackson's list:

One man admitted his opinion that God made a sexist remark when He said "sons" when the context indicated He was including women. (Nobody corrected him.)
In defense of adopting the NNIV, John Braun said with pride that Dr. Moo even approved of the (W)ELS Translation Committees work! (that's a good thing?)
Another layman acknowledged that there were problems with the NNIV but translations will continue to evolve and change. (Just as Christ intended - His Word would evolve and change)
The disjointed pro-NNIV commenter stated that it took way to long to read the KJV but liked how he could read through a whole book of the Bible real fast with the NIV. (Apparently speed is essential)

WLS President Wendland was working the mike, smoothly setting up alternatives to the NNIV adoption so that moments later he could crush the idea as any viable option. John Braun was also active in promoting the NNIV and using the monetary impact to NPH of a delayed adoption by the (W)ELS to further his agenda. Of them all he was the most irritated at the opposition voiced from the floor of the convention. His ties with NPH and the money involved may be enough for the (W)ELS to adopt this heinous Bible translation. Then again, sometimes people get exactly what they asked for.

WELS Favorite Church Also Adopted Early Feminazi Bible Translation.
This Is the Next Step




Willow Creek Succumbs To Political Correctness And Splits With Exodus International

Is Willow Creek Community Church more interested in being liked by the world than loving their brothers and sisters in Christ? This may explain their recent split with Exodus International, a group that ministers to homosexuals. From the Christian Post:
Willow Creek Community Church is no longer an affiliate of Exodus International, ending a relationship that spanned across several decades.

Willow Creek spokespersons say they just wanted to rethink the South Barrington megachurch’s affiliations, but Christianity Today reports that Exodus President Alan Chambers believes the church split from his organization to avoid public criticism.
“The choice to end our partnership is definitely something that shines a light on a disappointing trend within parts of the Christian community,” Chambers told the publication, “which is that there are Christians who believe like one another who aren’t willing to stand with one another, simply because they’re afraid of the backlash people will direct their way if they are seen with somebody who might not be politically correct.”

Exodus International is the world’s largest ministry specifically addressing the issue of homosexuality. The organization holds that “Christ offers a healing alternative to those with homosexual tendencies.”

Chambers also said that he sympathizes with organizations that have to deal with political, social, and financial backlash, but says that is just a part of carrying an unpopular Christian message.

“Biblical truth is unpopular, and when you’re supporting unpopular truth, you are unpopular too,” he said.

Reports of the church’s separation from the organization are coming out about two years after the decision was actually made back in 2009. Word of the change surfaced just last month, but prior to that, Willow Creek and Exodus partnered together to reach those in the Chicago-area beginning in the late 1980s.

Exodus previously provided “equipping events” to the church, preparing leaders to minister to those dealing with “unwanted same-sex attractions.” The organization also referred people to Willow Creek’s “A Safe Place” and “Someone I Love” ministries.

Susan DeLay, a spokesperson for the church, emailed The Christian Post about the split, saying, “There really isn’t a story.”

She also sent a statement from Scott Vaudrey, the church’s director of pastoral care and leader of its elder response team, who said, “It is true that Willow Creek discontinued its formal relationship with Exodus. In making this move, we were not making a social or political statement. We were simply in a season of reviewing and clarifying some of our affiliations with outside organizations.”

Only Beggars - Banned in Watertown


http://www.livestream.com/welslive/ -- Shared using Google Toolbar 
Hi Pastor GJ, check out the convention comments in the right margin. Onlybeggars says that Zondervan=Rupert Murdoch, so now onlybeggars has been banned by welslive from future comments.

http://www.livestream.com/welslive/ -- Shared using Google Toolbar there is an Icha-trepid conversation going on. Doug Lindee aka Freddy Finklestein is our hero. I left two comments.

Wendland's Advice Unheeded:
600,000 Page-Reads Since June, 2010,
Over 3,000 Page-Reads Already Today.

WELS should heed the advice of Henry Eyster Jacobs,
not the hypocritical warnings of Wendland, Mequon beehive manager.


I was going to post early about the WELS convention being another Methodist gathering, feasting on its old memories, comatose about doctrine, grabbing for signs of hope.

I went to a Methodist gathering 25 years ago because they invited me by mail. Nevertheless, they were surprised to have a visitor and not exactly welcoming. I had lunch with two of the conservatives (Pentecostal types). I thought this exchange was illuminating.

"Did you see the new District Superintendent's column on prayer?" (A DS is a district president - with even less spine.)

"Yes I did."

"That was encouraging. She might work out well."

I was going to post that conversation and use my Dephic Oracle graphic afterwards, when parsons found signs of hope in a given event or election.

WELS started with UOJ. The Kokomo Statements are a "caricature of WELS on justification", a caricature taken almost verbatim from Meyer's Ministers of Christ, which WELS just reprinted this year.


John Braun's Brain Lies A-Moldering in the Grave

Zwingli says the Holy Spirit needs no vehicle, like an oxcart, but UOJ Stormtroopers need a vehicle.
A luxury car is their first choice.


John Braun is stumbling through an address right now. Ineptitude makes everyone say, "I could read a script better than that." Sorrow and pity make them forget that he is delivering more poison.

Once again, he delivered the UOJ message, with some slides, so no one misses the point.

Braun tried to say no one else teaches UOJ, but the Big Four all teach forgiveness without faith, universal absolution, universal salvation. ELCA is no different from WELS in that regard. That is why they work together so well. Ditto the Little Sect on the Prairie (more UOJ) and Missouri (with statues and shrines for the UOJ Kidnapper, Walther).

But I am not yet done. I have read from the Holy of Holies, the WELS Essay Files. (Pause for everyone say, "I am so thankful for being in WELS.') But I have also read hundreds of modern theology books, guided by students of Barth and Tillich.

The mainline churches--the ones behind the Gay Communist National Council of Churches (New RSV, too) and also behind the Stalinist World Council of Churches and Geneva world federations--they all teach UOJ too.

My researchers used to ask, "Where did UOJ go after Knapp taught it at Halle University?" The answer is - "It went mainline."

Sorry, Braun, but grace is not defined as forgiveness without faith. That is the definition of Universalism. First of all, Braun knows nothing about theology or obfuscates without shame. Secondly, he cannot teach the Gospel of the Bible. Instead, he parades the apostasy of all mainline groups as the distinct and precious doctrine of WELS alone.

Church and Change will clap him on the back with a hearty "Attaboy."

SP Schroeder will encourage him, because Mark is in the same mode of thinking, sorry to say. Schroeder's pal Jenswold had the congregation reciting UOJ with him during the sermon.

Buchholz is supposed to be the only reforming DP. He is also a UOJ fanatic, so how can he even address the errors of Change and Change? Naturally, he has not done anything more than posture.

Here is the Gospel in a Few Simple Steps.

WELS cannot teach this Gospel because the Pietists cannot accept the efficacy of the Word alone in the Means of Grace.



NNIV Vote Today - Watch Diaprax at Work


The KJV is 80% Tyndale, and Tyndale enrolled at Wittenberg to study under Luther and Melanchthon.
Tyndale modeled his translation after Luther's.


Convention gawkers will have a chance to see Diaprax at work today. Church Mouse offered some valuable insights about Diaprax, and California added her own experiences from seeing it in WELS many decades ago. She knew the Valleskey, Kelm, Stadler bunch when they were young and foolish.

Diaprax is a process to get people to vote for and go along with whatever the manipulators wanted in the first place.

This is how it will work today. There are only two choices with the NNIV. One is to approve it. The Wisconsin Sect structure, filled with useful idiots, is already behind it 100%, heavily promoting it through the media and the Net (gasp! - does Wendland know?).

If Schroeder has shown any leadership on the issue, I missed it. Another Al Barry, he will continue to pose as a conservative while enabling and rewarding the apostates.

The second choice--the only alternative--is to delay the decision another two years. That comes from Team Patterson, so it smells like skunk cabbage on a humid day. If the convention votes to delay, WELS will have two years to pound everyone into submission. More likely, they will have no trouble passing it the second time around. With Diaprax, people are allowed to howl and moan in a safe situation, without voting. Given a second chance, they go along with the decision.

The third choice will not come up - to repudiate the NNIV now and decide on a KJV edition. That should strike people as ironic, because the Babtists hate the NNIV so much that they voted not to allow sales in their own bookstores. They hate the NNIV and love the KJV, which is really Luther's Bible in English.

The non-Lutherans have kept Luther's Bible in English alive. There are many choices, from the old update of the KJV (around 1800) to the New KJV, Modern KJV, KJV II, and KJV 21st Century. All this talk about a "Lutheran" Bible is silly because a Luther Bible already exists.

The New KJV has a bit of a Babtist tint, because they are behind it. As far as I know, the KJV 21 is the most faithful because only a few words are changed. "Our conversation is in heaven" really means "Our citizenship is in heaven." English has changed, but not so much that:
  1. Adam is a myth - NNIV.
  2. Genesis 4:1 is soft-core porn.

Beck was going to be a Lutheran Bible. And there is an Anderson Bible, if memory serves. Then Beck had to be revised and revised all over again. The so-called conservative Lutherans are so busy selling their non-Lutheran Bibles that they should call themselves Babel for confusing the tongues.

What used to be part of our language is now split up into so many versions that people carry around multiple translation editions, which also sell well.

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bored said...
well, yeah. Baptists. Sorry to say, but I'm more apt to invest time in a group of people who are genuinely and culturally mistaken than people (WELS) who purposefully alter Scripture to fit their agenda. Baptist theology may not be any less wrong, but I think the Holy Spirit hardens the hearts of those who purposefully amend and alter the Truth. That is to say, I'd rather talk to Baptists (who read a True Scripture) about Orthodoxy than trying to converse with a WELSian whose Scripture changes with the wind.

The Baptists have a *load* of false doctrine in their Confession, but they still seem to be driven by a preEnlightenment train of thought--a mindset that approaches God with humility

The WELS, on the other hand, is quite postmodern in its doctrine of Justification. They claim all are justified when Christ arose but not really justified at all until a person has faith. UOJ exists, I'm beginning to think, so that pastors can say anything to anyone, diapraxing heathens into faith. So we should not be surprised when the WELS votes to ratify the NIV 2011, which also typifies the postmodern approach toward language.

Out of all the errorists in the WELS, I think half, with a total lack of humility, think of God as a trick miniature pony who can be directed according to the machinations of The Church. The other half of WELS' errorists are like the "artist" who befouls a canvas, then writes a poem about the glory of his own human ingenuity--reveling in himself, not as a means to an end, but as an end itself.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "NNIV Vote Today - Watch Diaprax at Work":

"...who befouls a canvas..."

um, yeah.

Anyhoo, can't go along with you on the Babtists bein' better than WELS. At least the official confessions of WELS holds to the efficacy of the Means of Grace. In WELS practice maybe not so much, but at least we've got a touchstone on paper to get our bearings.

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C. F. W. Walther kidnapped his niece and nephew from the parsonage of his father, hid them from the police, and left for America early, to escape police warrants for his arrest. The children followed in a later boat, hidden for a time by his lawyers and his future mother-in-law. They died in America.




The sordid truth behind the Walther myth.


Walther Only Kidnapped Two! Children.

Walther, Pietist and Head Case.

Walther Family Felons.

Walther the Mob Leader and Robber.

The Criminal Foundation of the Synodical Conference

Walther Sainthood Project.

Monday, July 25, 2011

The Watertown WELS Convention Is a Short Drive from the Mother Church

The church was featured in the Northwestern Lutheran. Remember that name?





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It was a wonderful recital. We sat toward the front, on the pulpit side. Pastor Hastings spent a considerable amount of time talking with those who were curious about the history of St. John's. I found out that he has been there 25 years now. All of us had the opportunity to see how well kept this beautiful church is. They certainly are not made like this anymore. The acoustics were very good. The altar is still in very good condition. We spoke with some members after the recital. They were grateful that we had attended and we were invited to the regular 10 AM Sunday worship. I am looking forward to returning.






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GJ - Hundreds of WELS members and pastors are near the Mother Church of WELS - Historic St. John Lutheran in downtown Milwaukee. They should take a trip to their mother church - St. John.

St. John is the congregation of Bading and Brenner, certainly two of the patriarchs of WELS. Another patriarch - Gausewitz - was at Grace, Milwaukee, but he is deliberately forgotten in the synod and not even on Huebner's website (as far as I could tell). Too bad Gausewitz did not go to Fuller or Gordon Conwell Babtist Seminary.

St. John should be used throughout the year by WELS. All the seminarians should be trained in its history. As I have learned from growing up in Moline, Illinois, home of John Deere, our history shapes us far more than we realize. Learning my own history has given me a new appreciation for that river town.

Many large group events could take place at St. John. I doubt that the DP will ever swallow his pride, repent, and apologize to the congregation. This is true of evil, devious men - they work overtime at justifying their sins, turning their wrongs into virtues, or making their victims out to be horrible monsters.

As Randall Schulz has explained - Pastor Kevin Hastings and the congregation have patiently taken care of that tremendous building and pipe organ. The federal government and Milwaukee have recognized it as a gem of history. Why not get to know it and appreciate it?

I suggest that friends of St. John Lutheran Church help in the upkeep and repair of the organ. Send regular donations to the church to show your support.

George Erdner, Who Left ELCA, Offers Some Insights

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I think dollars are leaving the ELCA faster than people, at this point, from what I've read and been told by informed sources.

There are no truly informed sources when it comes to people leaving ELCA churches. When people simply stop attending an ELCA and instead start worshipping at a church of a different denomination and/or faith tradition, chances are that their ELCA congregation won't remove them from their official reports to their local synod office for several years. And, if a family leaves but still visits once or twice a year for old times sake (which happens more often than you might think), they can remain on the official rolls for years.

On the other hand, anyone who tells you that dollars are leaving at an alarming rate is correct. He might only be guessing, but his guess is accurate. But comparing the rate of dollars leaving with the rate of people leaving with any degree of accuracy is simply impossible. Anyone who claims to have accurate membership data is not making an accurate statement.

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GJ - George is a good example of how the Internet works. I have found his statistical summaries useful, because he tracks how many congregations have left the ELCA. He was an ELCA pastor himself and left.

He uses the ALPB Online Forum as a convenient platform for reporting the facts and providing some insights. I appreciate his comments, which make the ELCA pod-pastors' heads explode.

We became FB friends. I posted his recent gum commercial on FB and his "Bye Bye ELCA" song from YouTube. Soon everyone was copying the song on FB, although it was already rather popular.

Meanwhile, the LutherQueasies are trying to sell UOJ by revealing their lack of comprehension about Intuitu Fidei and the Gospel itself.




Brett Meyer got me listening to the Wendland graduation sermon. I waited several minutes to get past the "hooray for us" sales pitch. Since there was no Gospel or even a reference to a text, I gave up.

The Doctrinal Pussycats Maneuver Calls Over the Net.
WELS Has the Convention Blogged by Pod-Members.
Wendland Is Confused



Garrett has left a new comment on your post "The Pod People at the Sausage Factory Are Not Happ...":

Goodness gracious. When will WELS understand that the Internet is no longer a mere "toy"?

You are a grand example of this, Pastor, with Ichabod & Bethany. (Not to mention online university courses).

Even the CORE knows how effective an Internet footprint can be. St. Matthew was a dinner host for Christ, and "behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples". How are we being a better host for Christ's saving work when we pooh-pooh a brilliant global tool?

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GJ - I took computer science training (web design, Photoshop, Unix, Cisco) to enhance publishing. I was able to get ahead of LI in web design and graphics, but he lapped me about 25 times in network engineering.

Wendland reminds me of the heresiarch Benke (LCMS DP, Yankee Stadium) who constantly publishes on the ALPB Online Forum. He told the writers not to spend so much time on their computers. Benke has over 3,600 posts on that forum.

I lost track of how many McCain had. He was suspended, booted, or given a time out several times, so he had to start over. McCain makes my points for me about the toxic effects of UOJ, so I am glad to have him going Medieval on me.

One ELCA pastor reads this blog carefully each day, to find fault with things. Several blogs were established to thwart me in some way, once again giving away the UOJ modus operandi.

The funniest thing about Wendland's remarks is this - he was trying to say, "Do not read critical blogs. Just drink the Kool-Aid and read our stuff."

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Ineptitude - The Opposite of "Apt To Teach" -
WELS Will Shut Down Without Learning This Point

KJV 2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach,
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The July 18th issue of Christian News has an article about translations by WELS Pastor Mark Bartling.

He made an interesting point that will be ignored by all the Lutherans.

Bartling:
"William Tyndale (1490-1536) translated the New Testament into English from Greek. He also used Luther's German translation. In fact, Tyndale personally consulted Luther and enrolled at the University of Wittenberg in order to spend an academic year learning from Luther and his colleague Melanchthon. The first edition of Tyndale's English New Testament was published in 1526. Because it could not be pbulished in England, it was printed in Worms, Germany, a situation made possible because of Tyndale's close relationship with Luther.

In 1535 he published parts of the Old Testament translated from Hebrew. In 1536 Tyndale was captured and burned at the stake."

He noted that experts estimate that the King James Version of the Bible is 80% Tyndale.

Previously, all Lutheran hymnals in America used the KJV. Now every single sect uses a different translation.

Did Beck study under Luther? The Otten-promoted Beck Bible has already been through two major revisions. An adulterous LCMS pastor got tons of money from Schwan to produce the God's Word to the Nations Bible Society version. And that was again revised. And forgotten.

Did anyone from the NIV or NNIV study under Luther? Mequon loves that one.

The ESV is the version McCain is trying to sell. Blended? Or a hybrid, or perhaps a farrago?

"Lord, open the King of England's eyes." (Henry VIII killed Tyndale.)
Henry's descendant, King James I, authorized the revision of the Tyndale.