Thursday, August 29, 2013

More Hoo-Hah from Fox Valley WELS.
This Blog Must Be on Target Again.

Courtroom drama builds as St. Peter in Freedom gangs up on another member,
with the tacit approval of Schroeder and Engelbrecht.





Joel Lillo

4 hours ago  -  Shared publicly
So are you saying that it is impossible for someone to be gulty (sic) of harassing someone if they are poorer than the person they are harassing?  The pastors of St. Peters are (according to the documents you have shown) not suing them for money but are taking action to make sure that they can't harass the pastors and staff of St. Peters/the Core.

Boy, sometimes your logic just astounds me, Greggy -- and not in a good way!
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Christian Sorenson

4 hours ago  -  Shared publicly
Greg,

Not only is your logic skewed, but you yourself are demeaning and harassing all the people that attend those Church's calling them and I Quote (sic) "while ministering to bums in Appleton"

SO how are you any better than the people you persecute on this website. How are your sins no less?

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GJ - Fox Valley WELS Pastor Joel Lillo must have a barn full of straw men - some day they might even catch fire. He also mixed the straw man with the double question gambit, not only producing his own false accusation but making it a question that assumes a positive response.

Getting back to pastoral practice - why does every WELS pastor cry Eighth Commandment and Matthew 18 when asked about his public false doctrine, but Team Glende can pounce on a member with court orders?

law·suit
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noun
  1. 1.
    a claim or dispute brought to a court of law for adjudication.
    "his lawyer filed a lawsuit against Los Angeles city"
    synonyms:legal action, suitcaseaction, legal proceedings, judicial proceedings,proceedingslitigationtrial, legal dispute, legal contest More

    sue [sjuː suː]

    vb suessuingsued
    1. (Law) to institute legal proceedings (against)
    2. to make suppliant requests of (someone for something)
    3. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) Archaic to pay court (to)
    [via Anglo-Norman from Old French sivre, from Latin sequī to follow]
    suer  n

Didn't they sit down with the victim's husband, hold his hand, and tell him sins in private? Didn't they follow the next steps in Matthew 18?

Not only is the pastoral malpractice at St. Peter a shame for all Lutherans, but it is also an embarrassment for all Christians. The time has come to an end when a WELS pastor can abuse members and get away with it.

I do not know who Christian Sorenson is - this may be a fake name and identity. It reminds me of the Glende rants, and I have no doubt that Glende attracts like-minded, hardened and blinded bullies. Christian cannot read with comprehension, a basic WELS failing. Bruce Church wrote a comment where he used the term "bums," but that is exactly what Ski bragged about. The CORE offered free meals as long as their pet bums came to church first and made them look compassionate.

Where is the compassion for their own members?

The Conference of Pussycats should hang their heads in shame for all the things they have allowed from the Jeske gang.

The members and pastors of the Anything Goes District have only themselves to blame. They have overlooked and excused all this for decades.

Page views rocket up when Ski, Glende, and Engelbrecht are in the headlines again. To quote Anonymouse (Tim Glende) - "It is like watching a train wreck in slow motion."




Tomorrow Is St. Peter in Freedom's Big Chance To Bully Another Person into Silence.
Why Not Just Another Secret Excommunication?
Passivity of District Pastors and Members


Friday, August 30th marks the day when four restraining orders in a row will be acted on - all from St. Peter (WELS) in Freedom, Wisconsin.

The previous pastor, Ron Ash, was chairman of Church and Change, the false doctrine lobby in WELS. Ski, who was booted for sexual harassment and drinking on the job, was on the board of Church and Change - until I published the list of board members.

The four restraining orders are against one man - the husband of the woman Ski targeted for his uncouth, boozy, and obscene comments - not to mention the famous Brett Favre nude photo he had her view as a prank.

Glende and Ski are bullies who need to have a dozen people on their side so they can silence one person. They arranged with DP Engelbrecht and the parish buddies to silence Rick Techlin for correctly identifying both pastors as lying plagiarists.

Write a letter? Meet with them? I know from many contacts that many people wrote and contacted Glende/Ski about their ministry of Groeschel copying and Stanley aping. All comments were brushed aside and emails were blocked, unanswered.

They cowardly staff of St. Peter in Freedom are afraid of the legal consequences of their failure to supervise Ski, a subordinate of Glende - so St. Peter, the Anything Goes District, and WELS are all liable for his behavior.

Here are some guidelines:

Harassment in the Work Place

Equal Rights Publication ERD-7334-PWEB

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Note:
The links (bookmarks) in the Table of Contents take you to that section in this Publication.
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Table of contents
  • 1. What is the Legal Definition?
  • 2. When is conduct unwelcome?
  • 3. What forms does sexual harassment take?
  • 4. Important Facts about Harassment
  • 5. How can management respond to harassment concerns?
  • 6. Who is liable for harassment?
  • 7. What are the Consequences?
  • 8. When in doubt about Sexual Harassment!!
  • Questions about employment discrimination.

1. What is the Legal Definition?

Under the Fair Employment Law harassment in the workplace may be illegal under two circumstances. The first is when an employer, supervisor or co-worker singles a person out for harassment because of that person’s race, color, creed, ancestry, national origin, age (40 and up), disability, sex, arrest or conviction record, marital status, sexual orientation or military services. The second situation is when thecontent of the harassment itself relates directly to any of these protected characteristics (i.e. sexual harassment, use of derogatory ethnic or religious terms, age or disability related comments, etc.)
It is important to note that the Fair Employment Law only prohibits harassment in the circumstances described above. There is no general prohibition against harassment. An employer who harasses an employee because of a personal dislike, for example, or who harasses employees in general is not violating the Fair Employment Law, no matter how abusive or hostile the environment might be.
Harassment may include verbal abuse, epithets, sexually explicit or derogatory language, display of offensive cartoons or materials, mimicry, lewd or offensive gestures and telling of jokes offensive to the above protected class members. The behavior must be more than a few isolated incidents or casual comments. It involves a pattern of abusive and degrading conduct directed against a person because of his or her protected class that is sufficient to interfere with work or creates an offensive and hostile work environment.
“Sexual” harassment includes unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors and verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature when:
  • Engaging in such conduct is made an implicit or explicit term or condition of employment. Example: A newly hired machine operator is told sexual jokes, touching and display of nude posters are just part of factory life and she should try to ignore it.
  • Acceptance or rejection of such conduct is used as the basis for an employment decision affecting an employee. Example: A manager tells a worker applying for a promotion that the job would be his if he just “treated her right.”
  • The conduct interferes with an employee's work or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment. Example: One worker experiences repeated advances from another asking her for dates or “just to go out for drinks after work.” The worker says she isn’t interested, but the co-worker won’t take ‘no’ for an answer.

2. When is conduct unwelcome?

Conduct is unwelcome when an employee does not solicit or invite it and when the employee regards the conduct as undesirable or offensive. Since sexual attraction is a normal factor in employee interactions, the distinction between advances that are invited, uninvited-but-welcome, offensive-but-tolerated and flatly rejected may be difficult to discern. This distinction is important because conduct is unlawful when it is unwelcome.
It is important to note that harassment is in the eye of the beholder”. What might be acceptable to one worker might be offensive and unwelcome to another. The U.S. Supreme Court has adopted the “reasonable person” standard in determining if conduct is harassing.

3. What forms does sexual harassment take?

In practical terms, there are two forms of sexual harassment.
Quid Pro Quo (‘this for that’): When employment decisions or expectations (e.g. hiring, promotions, salary increases, shift or work assignments, and performance standards) are based on an employee's willingness to grant or deny sexual favors. Examples of quid pro quo harassment include:
  • Demanding sexual favors for a promotion or raise.
  • Disciplining or firing a subordinate who ends a romance.
  • Changing work standards after a subordinate refuses repeated requests for a date.
Hostile Environment: A work environment is “hostile” when unwelcome verbal, non-verbal or physical behavior focusing on sexuality is severe and pervasive enough to interfere with the victim’s work performance or be intimidating or offensive to a reasonable person.
Examples of behaviors that can create a hostile environment:
Verbal
  • Sexual jokes or insults
  • Comments about a person’s body or sex life
  • Sexually demeaning comments
Non-Verbal
  • Making gestures or staring
  • Display of sexually suggestive or degrading materials
  • Giving sexually suggestive “gifts”.
Physical
  • Touching, hugging, kissing or patting
  • Brushing against a person’s body
  • Blocking a person’s movement

4. Important Facts about Harassment

  • Sexual harassment often occurs when there is a disparity of power, not just when men and women women together.
  • A person who consents to a supervisor’s sexual advances might still be a victim of sexual harassment.
  • A member of one sex can sexually harass a member of the same sex even if there is no romantic motive for the harassment.
  • “Horseplay” can constitute sexual harassment if the actions are explicitly sexual in nature.
  • Offenders can be supervisors, co-workers, or non-employees such as vendors, customers, or suppliers.
  • The victim does not have to be directly involved. A third person can be offended by harassing behavior among willing participants.
  • Harassment does not have to be reported or complained about by the victim to be defined as harassment.
  • An employer can set stricter limits on harassment in the workplace (such as prohibiting all harassment) than may be specified under fair employment laws.
  • Unless severe, a single incident or a few isolated incidents of offensive behavior will not likely rise to the level of harassment.
  • A single incident of unwanted touching of a person’s intimate body areas is sufficiently offensive to be defined as sexual harassment.  It may also constitute a criminal offense under state “sexual assault” laws.
  • Abusive, hostile, or rude treatment of one sex (as opposed to mistreatment of all employees) may still constitute harassment, despite the absence of overt sexual behavior.

5. How can management respond to harassment concerns?

  • Implement a strong policy explicitly prohibiting harassment, including a description of disciplinary consequences that will be applied.
  • Provide training to educate employees on the issue of harassment and periodically remind them of your strong desire to maintain a harassment free workplace.
  • Have multiple avenues in place for making an internal complaint and regularly inform employees about the complaint process.   A “victim-friendly” complaint procedure encourages employees to come forward, is sensitive to their situation, stresses the need for confidentiality and ensures that retaliation will not occur, whatever the investigation outcome is.
  • Ensure that every complaint is taken seriously. It is essential that the employer act in a timely manner. Commence an investigation immediately and take appropriate corrective action as soon as possible.
  • Avoid making credibility judgments or reaching conclusions before you have gathered the facts, even if you think you “know” the parties involved and have an “idea” about what happened.
  • Keep in mind that there is a wide range of sensitivity toward harassing behavior. Remember, the “eye of the beholder” is what important, not is what you or other co-workers might find personally offensive. And be aware that it is not just young, “attractive” females who are sexually harassed.
  • Keep lines of communication open.  Make sure the complaining employee is informed of your efforts to correct any harassing behavior (including information about the consequences to the harasser) and of your desire to be promptly notified if problems persist or if retaliation occurs.
  • Realize that as a supervisor or owner you are “at risk” anytime you have an intimate relationship with a subordinate, even though you present relationship is not harassing and may not affect employment decisions. Policies that regulate social contact between supervisors and subordinates, including requirements that such contact be divulged by supervisors, are within an employer’s rights under the Fair Employment Law.

6. Who is liable for harassment?

How an employer addresses harassment with its employees is likely to be the single most critical issue in determining liability in legal actions.
An employer is responsible for its own acts and those of its agents regardless of whether the acts were authorized or even forbidden by the employer and regardless of whether the employer knew or should have known of those acts.
An employer is responsible for harassment between co-workers, if the employer or its agents knew or should have known of the conduct and failed to take immediate and appropriate corrective action.
An employer is responsible when non-employees such as customers or suppliers harass its employee's) during the workday, where the employer or its agents knew or should have known of the conduct and failed to take immediate and appropriate action.

7. What are the Consequences?

Lost Work Time:Harassment is very disruptive of production.
It can seriously affect victim/employee morale.
It may increase absenteeism and turnover.
Reputation:An owner’s or company’s community reputation may suffer.
Damages:A victim’s back pay; attorney fees and costs may be substantial.
Compensatory and punitive damages under federal law may dramatically increase dollar damages.
Other laws, such as state sexual assault statutes, may result in criminal charges.

8. When in doubt about Sexual Harassment!!

Often, an employee or supervisor may not be sure if a particular behavior or interaction is appropriate. The following “not sure” tests might be helpful.
Ask yourself:
  • Would you say or do it in front of your boss, grandparent or a stranger?
  • How would you feel if your family or close friends were subjected to the same words or behavior?
  • Would you say or do it to a colleague who is the same sex as you?
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Four from St. Peter in Freedom are suing the husband of Ski's victim, hauling him to court to silence him.

Ski will return to The CORE as the pastor, as DP Engelbrecht promised and SP Schroeder agreed.

Ski's Scrotum Sermon - Which They Were Proud To Post.

All St. Peter Freedom (which includes The CORE) posts labeled on Ichabod.

DP Engelbrecht's email supports Ski's CRM status, implying a return to The CORE.

August 13th meeting - this was held to get Ski's CRM status going.

Budget for St. Peter is $1.4 million, so why did they get a $500,000 plus grant to buy a bar?

Remove the 12 WELS Apostates - Starting with Deputy Doug Engelbrecht

DP Engelbrecht Approved Plagiarism of False Doctrine

All posts labeled The CORE

Ski - so bad, he was canned twice. This is the second, official canning, April of 2013.

Bishop Katie cannot spell either, not even on her own web page.

DP Engelbrecht had two different stories about Ski leaving.

Church and Change.

All posts labeled Church and Change.

All posts labeled Tim Glende.

All posts labeled Fox Valley WELS.

Intrepids on Time of Grace.

Glende, Ski, and Engelbrecht kicked out Rick Techlin - for being correct about plagiarism of  false doctrine, and Glende lied about his plagiarism.

Meeting with the DP's sock puppets.

Four St. Peter Freedom (WELS) Staff Take Victim's Husband To Court.
Some Facts For Your Perusal and Rumination

Glende and Ski have homes each worth almost four times
that of the person they are suing in court.
Who has paid Ski's mortgage since he was fired?
DP Engelbrecht promised St. Peter in Freedom that Ski would be back
in a few months, and he claims now that SP Schroeder agreed.

Joel Lillo

1 week ago  -  Shared publicly
 
I notice that the lawsuits in question are, in fact, restraining orders.  Maybe Mr. Donnan was overstepping appropriate bounds in pushing his case against them.
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Bruce Church

1 week ago  -  Shared publicly
 
You forgot to contextualize the information--how Donnan spoke up at [the August 13th] meeting saying he was against giving Ski CRM status, and the Glende team wants to restrain him from speaking again. At least, that's what I heard.




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GJ - It is worth noting the Jonathan Donnan has a modest house, while Glende and Ski have very expensive homes. I have never heard of four church pastors/staffers ganging up on one person at the same time, using the court system, but Glende has always been a known as a bully.

Ski's twitter page lists:

Candlelite Way & Oakbrook Ct, which Google Maps says is in
Darboy, WI 54915, to the west of Appleton. Streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/ScZ0r

I presume that's Ski's house, in a really nice neighborhood with $300,000+ dollar houses. So Ski might be living the high life like all the synodocats are. It reminds me of Fleischmann of Christian Life Resources (clearlycaring.com). Ski lives the high life in the burbs (or exburbs) while ministering to bums in Appleton. Fleischmann meanwhile tries to convince poor single women (who have most of the abortions in America and many are in inner cities) not to have an abortion while living in a $300,000+ house in an exurb of Milwaukee.

The exact address in the yearbook is N305 Candlelight Way, Appleton, WI, 54915-8731.

Zillow, which is based on comp sales, says:


Your search at N305 Candlelite Way, Appleton, WI:



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Tim Glende's Home on Zillow:


Your search at 4535 N Watershed Way, Appleton, WI:


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Timothy P Glende vs. Jonathan V Donnan

Outagamie County Case Number 2013CV000976

What is RSS?
Filing Date
Case Type
Case Status

Ascending Date Order
Descending Date Order
08-16-2013
Civil
Open
Class Code Description
Responsible Official
Harassment Restraining Order
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Parties
Party Type
Party Name
Party Status
Petitioner
Glende, Timothy P
Respondent
Donnan, Jonathan V
Future Court Activity
Date
Time
Location
Description
Type 2
Court Official
08-30-2013
09:30 am
Family Court, Justice Center (920) 832-5057
Injunction hearing
Court
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Party Details
Glende, Timothy P - Petitioner
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
08-1972
Address
Address Updated On

Donnan, Jonathan V - Respondent
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
09-1983
Male
Caucasian
Address 226 S Main St, Kimberly,  WI  54136
Address Updated On
226 S Main St, Kimberly,  WI  54136
08-19-2013

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Dietzler, Rhonda Kay - Petitioner versus Donnan, Jonathan V


Filing Date
Case Type
Case Status

 Ascending Date Order
 Descending Date Order
08-16-2013
Civil
Open
Class Code Description
Responsible Official
Harassment Restraining Order
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Parties
Party Type
Party Name
Party Status
Petitioner
Dietzler, Rhonda Kay
Respondent
Donnan, Jonathan V
Future Court Activity
Date
Time
Location
Description
Type 2
Court Official
08-30-2013
10:30 am
Family Court, Justice Center (920) 832-5057
Injunction hearing
Court
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Party Details
Dietzler, Rhonda Kay - Petitioner
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
02-1961
Address
Address Updated On

Donnan, Jonathan V - Respondent
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
09-1983
Male
Caucasian
Address
Address Updated On
226 S Main St, Kimberly,  WI  54136
08-19-2013

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Petitioner
Ulman, Leslye Marie versus Donnan, Jonathan V.
Respondent
Donnan, Jonathan V
Future Court Activity
Date
Time
Location
Description
Type 2
Court Official
08-30-2013
11:00 am
Family Court, Justice Center (920) 832-5057
Injunction hearing
Court
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Party Details
Ulman, Leslye Marie - Petitioner
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
03-1971
Address
Address Updated On

Donnan, Jonathan V - Respondent
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
09-1983
Male
Caucasian
Address
Address Updated On
226 S Main St, Kimberly,  WI  54136
08-19-2013

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Petitioner
Skorzewski, James Robert versus Donnan, Jonathan V.
Respondent
Donnan, Jonathan V
Future Court Activity
Date
Time
Location
Description
Type 2
Court Official
08-30-2013
11:30 am
Family Court, Justice Center (920) 832-5057
Injunction hearing
Court
Vander Maazen, Lisa Beth
Party Details
Skorzewski, James Robert - Petitioner
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
04-1972
Address
Address Updated On

Donnan, Jonathan V - Respondent
 
Date of Birth
Sex
Race 1
09-1983
Male
Caucasian
Address
Address Updated On
226 S Main St, Kimberly,  WI  54136
08-19-2013