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Friday, January 21, 2011
Where Are the Works of Faith with UOJ?
I had an unusual experience this week. Pastor Jenswold moved up to Fox Valley and out of the parsonage where we once lived. A member found an entire box of memorabilia that belonged to us. When we moved, some boxes did not fit in the trucks or car, and I asked several times for those boxes to be shipped to us at our expense. Two members and the congregational president promised to do that. Nothing happened.
That box sat in the parsonage for 17 years, but no effort was made to send it to us. The Jenswolds certainly knew it was not theirs, because our names were all over the inside, in personal letters, greeting cards, photo calendars from my father's doughnut shop, etc. They did not take the box along, but they did not do anything with it, either. A member found it in the parsonage, looked inside and contacted me, very friendly and helpful.
The contents involved some of my wife's favorite or most personal memories. For example, many people wrote us letters when Bethany was diagnosed with a terminal neurological disorder. One letter of comfort came from Yale professor Nils A. Dahl, now enjoying eternal life. Another came from my old-fashioned vicarage supervisor. Others were written by family and friends.
The photo calendars are rare and personal. The oldest one shows my cousins as young children. It is 66 years old. Others show me and family members at various stages, from the childhood of the Jackson kids to displaying our own children.
Who would keep these personal materials from their owners for 17 years? Would a pastor and his wife think that the parents of two children who died might enjoy Christian letters of comfort? However, Jenswold apparently derived his perspective from VP Paul Kuske's expert opinion - that I was crazy. (In WELS, crazy is defined as "someone opposed to clergy adultery and Church Growth," because WELS adores both.)
I am mentioning this incident because it illustrates the basic attitude of the WELS clergy. They glory in being petty, vindictive, and destructive, even though they howl with outrage about someone being "unbrotherly" or "unloving." I know from many other conversations that the WELS pastors glory in their dirty tricks, which are not harmless pranks.
WELS clergy behavior is based upon their sacred doctrine of forgiveness without faith. That is why they are so legalistic and Anti-nomian at the same time. They have no grasp of the relationship between Law and Gospel. They have programs to manufacture love and friendliness, but what is that without the Gospel itself?
WELS clergy can hardly choke out the words "Means of Grace," and they certainly cannot articulate the effective Word. They spend their energy attacking faith supporting a cowardly Universalism.
I hear from people abused by the Wisconsin sect. I try to comfort them by suggesting the WELS did them a favor by hating them away. The problem is that WELS was the universe for most of them. Once they were hated away, either as laity or church workers, most stopped speaking to them. I find the experience funny, when I attend an event and someone makes a point of seeing through me, glaring at me with laser eyes, or walking by. Missouri does it too. I am sure the ELS ministerium-- what's left after Pope John's messianic leadership--has pledged to shun me too.
I think it is funny because WELS, Missouri and the Little Sect on the Prairie are not my universe. I am not related to their bigshots and ex-convicts. But I do understand how the excommunicated feel.
I became a Lutheran through the Word, especially by experiencing the Word in a liturgical service. The actions and teachings of the LCA, Missouri, and WELS have been a crushing disappointment to me. Sometimes I wonder if it is worthwhile to address people who would work with ELCA while pretending to look down on them.
If I gave details about who has contacted me about the abuse they have experienced in WELS (especially) and other situations, readers could figure out who those people were. I remain vague for a reason. The present and past synodical leaders have a lot to answer for, in their abuse of church workers and members.
The ideal stunt in WELS gives away nothing. The idea is to leave the recipient seething and yet not able to say anything. No matter what the clergy claim, they do not listen to anyone talking to them about their imperious attitudes. They retaliate, especially if it involves criminal behavior. When one pastor discovered a district official having a merry affair, the result was a hate campaign against the pastor who found out and responded, while the adulterer was rewarded.
Write a letter? The WELS SP does not respond certified letters. Nor does Jenswold. Nor does his brother-in-law. Instead, their ELCA pastor friend responds!
In this case--the Babylonian Captivity of our possessions--Pastor Jenswold can claim innocence. How can anyone prove why he did do anything about the memorabilia?
The Captivity ended up being the perfect stunt, because someone displayed the kindness and consideration so often lacking in the WELS clergy. Mrs. Ichabod was able to enjoy a concentrated feast of memories, many from people who have now died. I doubt that the box, as packed, would have remained intact and unscattered from our many moves.
Another Canadian Lutheran Seminary Bargain - Ideal for WELS, LCMS, ELS
Bruce Church wrote about the inexpensive Missouri seminary at St. Catherine's, Ontario, so I looked up my old seminary and found a real bargain.
Waterloo Lutheran Seminary tuition and fees.
An international student (Yankee) pays only $3,000 net per term, thanks to a generous credit. Senior Yankees (over 60) pay only $2,000 net per term.
Canadians pay less than $2,000 - unless they mean servants and maids when they say "domestic students."
The advantages are many. Waterloo's first president was Little, a UOJ advocate - once admired by Robert Preus, no less. He mentioned Little to me.
Thanks to UOJ Pietism, the seminary moved from its original base to the Canadian version of ELCA, eh? They were a bit ahead of ELCA in gay marriage department. My vicarage congregation announced they would perform same-sex marriages whether the synod approved or not. An Episcopalian bishop was interim senior pastor for a period of time. All of the above would have given my vicarage supervisor a coronary, stroke, or both.
Waterloo did not ordain women when I graduated in 1972, but one woman was a student. Now women are faculty members and ordination is open to everyone. The lesbian bishop of the Canadian Lutherans came from Waterloo and the Eastern Canada Synod, although biographical details are sparse and vague.
Some advantages for the Syn Conference guys:
1. Experience ecumenism. The seminary usually has students from various denominations, all pursuing ordination or earning a real degree after ordination.
2. Enjoy co-ed seminary instruction. The progressives who want to have women openly ordained and teaching men should spend some time in Waterloo. You also have twice the chance to find a date for Saturday night.
3. Meet future leaders. The lesbian Lutheran bishop of all Canada is from the seminary. The newly fired head of Church and Society, ELCA, graduated from Waterloo. Least of all, this blogger, without a friend in the world, earned an MDiv before heading to Yale University and Notre Dame, taking up a blog that no one reads because it has no credibility.
Satire button off.
Looking the seminary is good reason to follow Lenski's advice - "Resist the beginnings." I loved being in Ontario and serving at that huge church for several years, as a student worker and vicar. There was little difference at that time between St. Peter's and the nearby conservative LCMS congregation - worship, practice, doctrine, and culture were almost identical.
I was already getting in trouble for challenging people in class at Waterloo. But I never expected the depths of apostasy and depravity that would hit that school in the years to come.
The downward skid is just like the acceleration of a falling object. The initial movement is slight, but it keeps picking up on the way down. Try to stop a sect which is going straight down at full speed. God's Word can do it but few want to apply to Word to anything.
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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Another Canadian Lutheran Seminary Bargain - Ideal...":
Yes, the liberal Lutheran seminaries are all relatively very inexpensive. It's counter-intuitive that the conservative seminaries used to have many more M Div students than the liberal seminaries, and ended up being more inexpensive. You'd think more students, the cheaper it would get. However, some devil whispered it into the ears of synodical officials that seminary students would make good cash cows, and it's all history now:
seminarian cash cow:
http://www.ericnagel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/cash-cow.jpg
I say conservative seminaries "used to" have more M Div students because both LCMS seminaries are now pushing only 50 M Div students per class, with the rest being filler students. They are only 30 years behind the liberal seminaries in that regard.
What's not so funny is LCMS seminary profs advise their students that upon graduation (M Div) they should go for a higher degree, or go study for six months at Westfield House in Cambridge, the ELCE seminary, which has access to Cambridge library. They think they are in the old days when students graduated without debt, without huge student loan bills to pay back, and they had contacts who would pay for such things. Seminary students who approach rich donors generally are told they are 25,000 donor request letters from synod too late, and almost all their discretionary money is gone, and like Esau, the students would have to accept a lesser blessing, or nothing:
http://www.westfieldhouse.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=3
The timeline of a Bible for the British Isles « Churchmouse Campanologist
The timeline of a Bible for the British Isles « Churchmouse Campanologist
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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "The timeline of a Bible for the British Isles « Ch...":
"In Bible publishing, a copy costs the printer little more than the paper."
Counterfeiting without going jail, basically.
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GJ - That is an excellent comparison, Bruce. I may forgive you for the bird swing link.
The timeline of a Bible for the British Isles
January 21, 2011 in Anglican, Protestant | Tags: Anglican, Bible, Christianity, church,England, Henry VIII, John Wycliffe, King James Version, Lollards, Myles Coverdale,Protestant, Wales
Reformation Anglicanism recently featured an article from the King James Bible Trust which explained the evolution of the Bible in English and other languages specific to the British Isles.
Most of us, even those with a cursory knowledge of Church history, are aware that owning or reading a Bible in a language other than Latin incurred severe penalties in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. The Church — accurately, as it turned out — feared that Scripture in the vernacular might lead to groups of people meeting up to discuss what the Word says against the Church’s interpretation as delivered from the pulpit. Certainly, the Church wished to guard against heresy, always a danger from the time of the Apostles to the present day...
Read more at the link.
The Lutheran leaders betrayed their members and pastors to make the NIV supreme - just to grab some bucks for themselves.
Now they want the ESV.
The language is always changing, they say, so we need an entirely new translation to bribe us as publishers.
In Bible publishing, a copy costs the printer little more than the paper. Everything else is profit. No wonder they want new hymnals and Bibles every few years.
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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "The timeline of a Bible for the British Isles « Ch...":
"In Bible publishing, a copy costs the printer little more than the paper."
Counterfeiting without going jail, basically.
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GJ - That is an excellent comparison, Bruce. I may forgive you for the bird swing link.
He said, “My wife and I left the LCMS teaching profession 20 years ago.......” and the termination letter from that old cell church of mine.
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Waldo Werning, LCMS, Reveals His Church Growth Network in WELS.
Conerstone, Heart in Focus:
Same Propaganda as DP Buchholz
The email was sent to WELS pastors.
Dear Pastors and friends in the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church:
Some of you will know me from books which Professor Jeske reviewed in your theological journal or from some of the stewardship books and “building healthy churches” resources that have a strong Lutheran foundation. I have had the privilege of working with Jeff Davis and Rev. Dave Kehl in their exceptional and excellent money management and financial planning resource, Heart in Focus, as I was looking over their shoulders and was able to bring them to Dave Wetzler of ChurchSmart in St. Charles IL to publish those materials, which then NPH was able to co-publish. I am also happy to share with you that I have been able to give encouragement to the development department of Rev. Mark Jeske’s Time of Grace, which is very strongly supported by The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.
Jeff Davis has been an encouragement for these “Turning Donors Into Disciples” workshops, and especially to offer to pastors and congregations of the Wisconsin Synod in Arizona at this time. As you can see from the attachment which tells of the great benefits, the responses and experiences that we had in the Ohio and South Wisconsin Districts shows that pastors and their church leaders saw this as a one-of-a-kind and unique resource to overcome the financial crisis and meltdown that churches and their members are facing at this time. If you answer yes to the two questions in the attached message, then I believe that you will be joining us at this February 19 workshop and we will welcome you with a great handshake. By the way, Dave Wetzler of ChurchSmart, who is the host of this workshop, is giving books and materials that equal the registration fee, so there will be no financial loss for your attendance.
You may register with me or ChurchSmart, and I would be happy to get emails to answer your questions.
Even at this late date, we are still looking for the possibility of a WELS congregation to make their facilities available for this non-fellowship educational event for Thursday morning, February 17, to give church leaders an opportunity to attend besides Saturday afternoon.
May God give you a grace-filled 2011 in Christ!
Yours in Christ’s service of biblical stewardship and building healthy churches,
Waldo Werning
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Is your church experiencing a financial crisis where action is required now?
Does it lack the funds needed for your ministries, even salaries?
If you answered YES to any of these questions then
“Turning Donors Into Disciples”
FAITH-RAISING, NOT FUND-RAISING
is a workshop that you and other leaders should attend.
Where: Where: PHOENIX AREA, Christ Greenfield, 425 N. Greenfield Rd, Gilbert, AZ 85234
When: Saturday, February 19, 1-5pm
Cost: $25 each or $100 for Groups of Five
Pastors and leaders at Wisconsin and Ohio “Stewardship of Giving” workshops tell how they were greatly benefited. District Stewardship leader Thomas Soltis tells that this “Christian Giving Resource” fills a necessary niche and is a stewardship goldmine that provides 12 basic “giving” books and materials for more than five years. He said that these programs will change the stewardship culture of churches from maintenance to grace-giving, from a focus on what the church wants to a focus on what God asks…It shows how the church can kill the budget virus and needs disease through first-fruit, generous giving and tithing through such programs as Consecrated Stewards.
A Milwaukee pastor joined others from Ohio and Wisconsin, writing, “We learned to lead by example to communicate productive ministry, not our budget, and to plan effective corporate stewardship and reach all members.” Other comments:
· “The Ministry/Mission Financial Proposal was an eye opener to take us on the road of faith-raising rather than fund-raising.”
· “We saw that personal money management and financial planning in the book and program, Heart in Focus, changes the stewardship culture in churches.”
Dr. Waldo Werning, author of “Turning Donors Into Disciples,” will be joined by other presenters that will help increase giving and finances in your church substantially.
The benefits of this workshop are too great to procrastinate. Please register now.
You may register online by emailing customerservice@churchs mart.com. You may gain more information by phoning David Wetzler at 800-253-4276 or at www.churchsmart.com, clicking the training button on “seminars”.
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The pioneer amputee who climbed Mt. Rainier was asked what he learned from his achievement. He quickly responded, "You can't do it alone."
Let us introduce ourselves, the ChurchSmart team, committed to bringing you excellent products at affordable prices.
Let us introduce ourselves, the ChurchSmart team, committed to bringing you excellent products at affordable prices.
- Dave Wetzler is the founder and owner of ChurchSmart Resources. He has served as a pastor (5 years), denominational executive (17 years), and since 1996 as a publisher and NCD Trainer. His education includes a B.A. in Bible and Theology and an M.A. in Management.
- Bob Rummel serves as Operations Manager. He has eleven years of editorial and Christian bookstore experience. His education includes a B.A. in English from Wheaton College.
- Christina Bowman is responsible for customer care. She is a recent graduate from Wheaton Academy, and since then has been a previous student at Kendall College in Chicago. She also serves as co-leader of the young adult women’s ministry at Medinah Baptist Church.
- Phil Newell operates the warehouse, providing timely shipping on all orders. At 22 years of age, Phil has the task of keeping the organization feeling young. He is a missionary kid from Indonesia who recently spent 4 years of study at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago.
- Bob Logan serves as the Director of Research and Development and will continue to develop new products and seek out the best resources available
to help you minister. He graduated from U.C.L.A. with a B.S. in chemistry, an M.Div. from Western Baptist Seminary in Portland, Oregon (pastoral studies), and a D.Min. from Fuller Theological Seminary (church growth).
- Barb Palmiter is responsible for customer care. She comes to us with 22 years of service in a Bible College. She has a B.A. in Religion and Philosophy, with a Biblical Studies emphasis, from the King's College.
- Jack Stephenson serves as our NCD National Ministry Coordinator. Jack assists in the development of new NCD training resources, trains NCD Coaches and Licensed Trainers and provides strategic planning assistance to denominations implementing NCD within their judicatories. Jack has a Doctorate in Church Growth and serves as the senior pastor at Anona United Methodist Church in Largo, FL.
GJ - Many have noticed that the people identified as Church Growth leaders are the same ones promoted by the Wisconsin Synod.
I have known Werning since colloquy days, when Kincaid Smith introduced me to him. Smith admitted in print that he resented my published criticisms of Church Growth.
I am current FB friends with Werning. I am always trying to convert people to Lutheran doctrine.
Werning told me he was trained at Fuller Seminary and later denied it, until I quoted from my Day-Timer. I said, "On this date I asked you, and you said you did study at Fuller." Soon after I heard from ELS Pastor Paul Schneider that Werning was trashing me. He said, "What did you say to him to make him so angry with you?"
Werning also made clear in various conversations that he worked closely with WELS and the Little Sect on the Prairie, all Church Growth leaders.
What enraged so many "conservative" Lutheran leaders is the evidence I published showing they were really second-rate Babtists grubbing for money in the name of "Growth." They never achieved any growth, except to transfer doctrinally inert members from other congregations of the same synod. That is the established policy of "missions" in WELS today - to start parasitic missions to siphon from WELS congregations.
I am sure Keith Free will put a stop to that. Ha!
Berg and Hagedorn before him were trained at Fulller, smitten by Fuller.
Did some pastor really dress in drag and preach at Free's congregation, posing as the woman at the well? I asked him and got no answer. If so, it had to be a memorable moment. "We are very strict in WELS. We do not let a woman preach (not obviously, anyway), so we do sermons in drag."
As readers can see from the previous published ad published by DP Buchholz for the Mark Jeske/Jeff Gunn show for teen cutters and stoners, doctrinal discipline in WELS is aimed only at those who question Holy Mother Synod.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Waldo Werning, LCMS, Reveals His Church Growth Net...":
(W)ELS is promoting Consecrated Stewards which is an LCMS effort with support from ELCA.
It's also a horrible prosperity gospel driven effort and a blatant offence to the Holy Spirit and His work through the Gospel purely taught.
http://consecratedstewards.blogspot.com/
The glory of the (W)ELS.
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Thursday, January 20, 2011
Money Management in WELS - Cornerstone Stewardship "Ministries"
and Cornerstone Wild Hare Fund-Raising.
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
From my own experience, all of the above observations fit quite well. In the situation that I referred to, it was strictly a budget problem. The teacher was told after the last day of the semester. I am sure that there was much more to it all. It was the tip of the iceberg. The congregation just had a multi-million dollar expansion. They had engaged in full fledged masonry evangelism. They were borrowing against the pledges for the expansion to meet their operating costs. In a rare moment of conscience, they realized that this was wrong. My beloved wife had pointed out the total of 10 full time called workers on the payroll, including the full time child care director. My response was "that is a lot of salary and benefits". The expansion was sold to the voters with the assumption of a growth in both members and amount per giving unit. That never materialized. After three capital appeals, they are still coming up short. The third capital appeal caused my departure because they had contracted with Cornerstone Stewardship Ministries. (continued)
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
Working backwards from the comments:
Grumpy, I have been a part of the scenario which you have described. I was an elder when we had a pastor who was well known for his rather intimidating cold stare. Did they teach him this at the Sausage factory? I plead guilty for not speaking up when I should have. This is just another indication that the WELS can really be an abusive cult. When my wife and I were discussing the termination of the teacher's call, she reminded me of the history of the grumbling members who always talked, but never acted. When I was an elder, the Council President did stand up to the pastor. The pastor's knees buckled. Schoolyard bullies can get rather timid when you stand up to them. Members would complain that the same lapdogs would always be elected. In all honesty, who would want to serve under those conditions? (continued)
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
Mr. Meyer,
I agree about the WELS is cloudy (by design) concerning the doctrine of the public ministry. Furthermore, they co-mingle it with the doctrine of vocation. I have heard it said that everyone is a minister. But wait, not a public minister. So, then what they say they mean by everyone being a minister is that everyone has a calling. By that, they meant to say that they are talking about the doctrine of the vocation. Why did they not say so from the start? If it sounds confusing, it is. I'll bet that they use this convoluted argumentation to justify Bishop Katie being a "Worship Minister". I have also seen this used in a round about way to shame members into serving on one of the many useless committees. In other words, you are not really serving the Lord unless you are doing busy work in the congregation. (continued)
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
The name calling is usually engaged in by those who have no legitimate argument against you. It is similar to that schoolyard bully who does that in front of his minions to look tough. An abusive sect can be an equal opportunity offender. I have witnessed several faithful teachers get treated rather harshly. When members expressed outrage about it, they were called troublemakers. Mr. Jungen, thank you for pointing out that the congregation bears the responsibility for supporting the called workers. As we have been made aware of here on Ichabod, there are many faithful and knowledgeable laity. They need to be reminded to pray for and support their called workers.
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Removing a Church Worker Properly
Scott E. Jungen has left a new comment on your post "Bueller, Bueller. Anyone? Anyone?":
Brett,
I believe teaching of false doctrine,not being apt to teach, scandalous life are some the reasons for removal from the ministry. Those are the ones off the top of my head.
Nowhere of which I know does Scripture say anything about church budgets. Hmmmmm.
Scott E. Jungen
PS- Another reason is health. But I saw that misused to remove a coworker the principal didn't like. Soooooo.
SEJ
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Bueller, Bueller. Anyone? Anyone?
Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
This discussion brings up the nature of the (W)ELS doctrine concerning the Public Ministry of the Word (PMW). Clearly those in the office within the (W)ELS agree with the doctrine as it's taught and enforced (enforced is a strong word in the (W)ELS concerning doctrine, maybe encouraged or suggested would be better - have you read the essays in the (W)ELS Essay files?!).
(W)ELS teaches that they have the God given right to change what Christ instituted and restrict parts of the overall PMW responsibilities to one individual (male or female) and still call it a divine office instituted by Christ. They still insist that it's a divine office into which Christ Himself calls these people to serve. This is why they can so easily remove someone from the position. They have taken Christ's place. Certainly (W)ELS President Moldstad set a solid precedent when he wickedly schemed to have Pastor Preus removed from his active call. Less than a handful of churches protested so the churches that remain in fellowship with the (W)ELS agree that his Antichristian behavior was acceptable. I say, so far (W)ELS is getting less then what they have asked for. Why are you upset at the termination of this pastor? Or any pastor.
What are the reasons Scripture gives that allow the removal of the man that Christ calls to serve a congregation?
Bueller, Bueller....anyone?
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GJ - Many times they hate someone out of the call, and they wonder why the children of church workers are not signing up for their $100,000 college degrees. Ha.
WELS is dead, and the Amen! Corner is sure to follow.
Missouri loves to work with ELCA, too. That will make Missouri even more like ELCA, and not make ELCA more like Missouri.
They all agree on universal absolution - without the Word. Doctrinal agreement and fellowship always work together.
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M. Loy on Doctrine
His Delaware, Ohio congregation is now ELCA.
Matthias Loy, Lutheran Standard, May 15, 1886, p. 84 (as cited by C. George Fry in The Springfielder, October 1974, Volume 38, Number 4, Matthias Loy: Theologian of American Lutheran Orthodoxy)
"What was once settled as fundamental orthodoxy has, in various particulars, become strangely disturbed. The old ways of thinking no longer fit and satisfy and command the stern and unfaltering consent, as they once did . . . Notice the contradictions, the inconsistencies, the vacillations of theological opinion, in all statements of our time,--how vague the language chosen, how uncertain the note struck, how many the loopholes of evasion! . . . . Try if you can get a definite declaration of theological faith from your intelligent friends of any denomination. Question the professed teachers of religion, and notice how slowly, how guardedly, how vaguely they answer direct inquiries....There has been an almost universal loosing of old moorings, a breaking away from the firm fastenings of other days, a drifting no one can tell whither."
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Speak Up
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Bruce Church on the Synods Dividing and Conquering...":
Likewise, the laity should sound off before they depart from a CG congregation. At my former WELS congregation, a veteran teacher recently had his call terminated after the first semester. Usually, those calls are terminated at the end of the school year. Many of the members are up in arms because this faithful servant was given the heave-ho rather abruptly. My beloved wife commented that most of them will complain but get over it. Unfortunately, she is correct. My response was what they needed to do was to let some leaders know just exactly what they think, then walk away and never come back. The Wisconsin Sect has whipped so many into silence that only a few will have that much needed Luther moment and stand firm.
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Daniel Baker has left a new comment on your post "Speak Up":
Right, Scott. and I'm just a brainwashed, maligning grandstander.
In all seriousness, the case rlschultz describes is currently happening to a teacher I had back in gradeschool (this is his third call since then). He is the principal, but from what I gather that congregation most likely terminates positions based on seniority.
The most disconcerting thing, however, is not that they terminated him, but rather that they notified him right before Christmas. This is the third position at a WELS church in the last decade that has failed him, and they have the gall to notify him over the holidays? They were so eager to let him go that they couldn't wait until after New Years to do the dirty dead? Merry Christmas!
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Party Outreach - The CORE Did This First
http://apprising.org/2011/01/16/seattle-seahawks-have-more-than-a-prayer-on-sunday/
Seahawks have more than a prayer on Sunday
Two churches in the Seattle region are hosting tailgate parties to celebrate God — and the Seahawks.
By Sonia Krishnan
Seattle Times staff reporter
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Ryan Meeks wants to explore a question: Why shouldn't Christians be considered world-class partyers?
The 32-year-old will be talking about this on Sunday at Eastlake Community Church in Bothell.
Where he is the pastor.
Where 4,000 congregants will be tailgating during his sermon.
Where, as the Seahawks try to fight their way through another round of the NFL playoffs, there will be no mention of sin or guilt or immorality for indulging in that ultimate American pastime — rooting for one's hometown team.
Trust that it will all be done with plenty of pulled pork, beer, big-screen TVs and trucks, Meeks said. He's even bringing in his old Volkswagen bus. Kids are also welcome to run free in the church's big warehouse space.
"The church is the last place in the world where you'd expect to find people happy or excited or partying," Meeks said. "But why do we have to be so separate from what's happening in our culture? You should celebrate when cool things happen in your community."
And Meeks' church just happens to be where quarterback Matt Hasselbeck and a few other Seahawks attend Sunday services.
For North Sound Church in Edmonds, tailgating also seemed the perfect solution to bring God and his football followers together.
Kickoff is at 10 a.m. That posed a conflict.
So earlier this week, Pastor Barry Crane and the church's worship pastor started kicking around ideas about what to do.
Their solution? Have one service at 8:30 a.m. instead of three throughout the morning, and throw a party/sermon/killer breakfast at the conference center across the street. Prepare enough food for 300 people. Open it to everyone. And voilà : A tailgate church service was born.
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Attendees, by the way, are urged to wear Seahawks colors.
So do Meeks and Crane think God will have a hand in the game's outcome?
"I would love to see the Bears get thrashed," Meeks said, laughing. "But to thank God if we beat another team? That might be a stretch of theology."
Crane got straight to the point.
"I don't think this is something God is too concerned about," he said.
Then he added quickly: "We're pulling for the Seahawks, of course."
Sonia Krishnan: 206-515-5546 or skrishnan@seattletimes.com
Library Liquidation Sale - The Spanish Armada
$40 plus shipping, including a second book on the Armada.
Garrett Mattingly's Defeat of the Spanish Armada
'I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman but I have the heart and stomach of a King, and of a King of England too ...' Elizabeth I to her troops at Tilbury, during the Armada crisisThe defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588 marked a defining moment in British history. A small, Protestant nation, ruled by a Virgin Queen, faced, and faced down, the overwhelming power of the Spain of Philip II, the self-appointed champion of the Roman Church. The image of Sir Francis Drake, calmly finishing a game of bowls before sailing out to confront the largest seaborne invasion in England's history, stamped itself for ever on the national psyche.
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GJ - Folio Books are often reprints of great classics. This book explains the details of the defeat of the Spanish Armada, a force so great that England should have been reduced and made a Roman Catholic vassal state again. Mattingly had the gift of burrowing through the archives and making the historical facts interesting and fun.
Folio sells a book for a time, then stops. This seems to be out of print at Folio.
How many students raise their hands and say barrel staves defeated the great Armada?
I have included a second book on the Armada, a slender volume called The Great Enterprise, published by Folio. This volume reprints documents and illustrations from that conflict.
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Make a Bird Swing
Birds love to perch near their food and water, to have a safe place for watching the surroundings.
The closer the birds are, the more interesting they are to watch.
A bird swing is easy to make and fun to watch in action. I am the least likely to make anything except a new book, but I did come up with the recipe for this.
At a hardware store:
1. Buy a metal rod of suitable length, such as 12 to 24 inches. The circumference should be narrow. A wooden dowel will also work for this, but a threaded metal rod will stick in the chains better.
2. Buy two lengths of chain where the links allow the rod to pass through. If the clerk asks what this is for, make something up. People think bird swings are weird. I suggest, "This is a lightning rod for my hamster cage." Believe it or not, that will be more acceptable than "a bird swing."
3. Buy two hooks that will screw into the window frame on top.
4. The chains hang from the hooks and the metal rod goes through the chain links.
Soon the birds will land on the swing and have a merry time on it. Smaller birds will favor it, because they can maneuver a landing. Two or three will swing on it at once, depending on the room allowed.
Doubtless a perch could be fashioned easily too, but I like seeing the birds swing back and forth, and they seem to enjoy the movement. A bird will land on a narrow branch of the bush near the feeder and swing back and forth. The vertical sprout will only hold one small bird, so he knows he will not look down and find a cat crawling up to catch him.
Snowed In, With the Birds
Yesterday, Sassy Sue and I filled the Duncraft bird feeder with black oil sunflower seeds and added new corn to the squirrel feeder. We also scattered seeds in the front of the house, in the rocky area sheltered from snow and rain.
I heard about a storm coming, but our little corner of Arkansas usually misses the worst storms, which go north into Missouri or south toward Little Rock and Fort Smith. Nevertheless, we had about 3 inches of snow on the ground this morning and another 3 on the way, the Bella Vista equivalent of a blizzard. We cannot leave the house today, but I imagine salt and sun will do the job Friday and Saturday.
The birds were already accustomed to our feeding areas, which include two spots for suet. This morning the birds were up before the sun, getting their morning Jo from the sunflower seeds and suet. Cardinals flock together in early spring because they have not chosen a mate and established their homesteads yet. We have 3 or 4 males cardinals happily eating from the same feeder.
The seed cost is about $1 per week. The suet cost is pennies per week. I can buy a basket/suet combination for $2, and that lasts for months. Refills are about $1, with interesting variations aimed at the buyer.
I will consider roasted mealy worms in the future. That is a blue bird favorite. They enjoy them live most of all, but that is not on the agenda.
Gardeners should start planning natural settings for promoting a bird-filled yard. Seedy flowers to consider planting are:
1. Sunflowers.
2. Cosmos.
3. Zinnias.
4. Safflower.
Birds love trashy, leafy, branch-littered areas for nesting and feeding. Trashy does not mean bags of garbage, but dead leaves, long grass, weeds and herbs. Leaves at the base of bushes will help feed the bushes via the earthworms, and the dead organic material will attract creatures for the birds to eat.
Blue jays and cardinals love bushes, and evergreens are popular with most species. Birds want a safe place to watch the feeder and to eat. A bird swing is easy to make and hang. I will put up a separate post on that project.
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Brian G. Heyer has left a new comment on your post "Snowed In, With the Birds":
I'd also suggest purple coneflower (echinacea). The goldfinches flock to them for weeks to pick apart the seed heads. Don't plant near a path, as the seed heads are annoyingly stiff and prickly, but created perfectly for nervous finches.
Bruce Church on the Synods Dividing and Conquering - Themselves
bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "What Does BC Know? Or Is He Just Bluffing?":
As long as we are talking about what BC knows or doesn't know, how about let's talk about what BC is speculating:
Over the last three decades God has noticed the non-support of the seminaries and seminarians in the LCMS, WELS and ELS, and that the quick fix the synodical tightwads who live in big houses in nice neighborhoods came up is to continually increase their compensation and not to fund the seminaries better, while creating alternative tracks in which Hebrew is not taught, nor classical languages or German. So God said, fine, since they are showing their contempt for my Word, what they are doing is creating the very situation where I'll divide each synod in half so half the DPs won't have their jobs anymore, and the other half of the DPs and president can't afford to live in fine houses in nice neighborhoods anymore. For when the synod divides, there won't be a need for thirty-some districts and DPs, and pay will be cut.
When God sends the aforesaid synods a theological disagreement over election or UOJ or a re-repristination of Lutheran theology, which feat God knows how to do well, the DPs and others who milk the system for all it's worth will naturally toe the Walther-Hoenecke party line. All the DELTO and SMP and WELS second career persons know their certificates are only worth something in the LCMS or WELS, so they will toe the Walther/Hoenecke party line no matter what. Around the DPs and alternative track will gather many Div pastors, enough to form a true schism instead of just a few dozen churches pealing off and forming another micro-synod. So the synods have already sown the seeds of their own demise. Of course, this is all speculation.
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GJ - I agree in general. The revolt began many years ago, with people just melting away. Another sign of this in the LCMS is the refusal to turn in statistical reports. That was happening in previous years, so the numbers are meaningless, especially when people exaggerate on the positive side.
I was going to change pealing off (sounding their bells, above) to peeling off (separating), but I like the idea of congregations sounding off before leaving.
The synod officials have used the schools to keep their own cash flow going, but they are all dead and dying anyway.
My hesitation about BC's optimism comes from my experience with the ELCA merger. All the facts were known, available, and published in 1987. Hardly anyone did much. The pastors in the historical Delaware, Ohio congregation objected a bit, then surrendered to the merger concept. The retired ELCA bishops starting their synod were at the peak of their careers at that point. ELCA had to rub their noses in apostasy for 23 years before some of them started to wake up.
SPs Harrison, Schroeder, and Moldstad fit the description of investment company CEOs. "They do not manage the business, but the public perception of the business."
The turmoil in ELCA comes from people studying doctrine and seeing Holy Mother Synod in action, without their sentimental blinders on.
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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Bruce Church on the Synods Dividing and Conquering...":
The doctrinal dispute would probably need to involve a repristination of Lutheran doctrine for Lutherans to get excited about it--enough to leave and form a new synod. During Walther and Pieper's time, repristination was the rage, and all Walther did was put Reformed doctrine into Luther's mouth--yeah, some repristination. Althaus' book on Luther's theology could be a springboard into a true repristination.
It occurred to me I had typed pealing instead of peeling a half hour after I made the comment. Oh well.
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What Does BC Know? Or Is He Just Bluffing?
bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Bruce Church Is Optimistic":
LPC, Yes, it will take time, but probably not as long as you think. Some critical* scholarship must be done first, and then result will come quickly. When God's Word is untangled from the mess they made of it, it will work even more wonders than it already has.
*By critical, I mean crucial or necessary, not the historical critical method.
Wednesday, January 19, 2011
Bruce Church Is Optimistic
bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "This Is Your Hero - Mark Jeske - WELS and LCMS":
If you look at the history of the Synodical Conference, one can discern that the Pietist-Calvinist doctrinal overlay of the BoC that Walther pushed was not what most Lutherans in America believed, much less in Germany where no one believes in UOJ anymore. Walther's view on slavery was Calvinist, too, since one ought not mess with the status quo since that would contradict God's will concerning what station people hold in this life and the next.
Since UOJ was an overlay against the will of the people, Waltherian logic and the authority of the pastor had to push aside the beliefs of the unlearned masses, who were immigrants to American and thus vulnerable to this type of manipulation. Hence, to this day no one is allowed to criticize the pastor except in very limited contexts. The rule book on this came out of Alice and Wonderland.
If the pastor were really one with the people in doctrine, this all wouldn't be necessary. Of course, pastors will say that people swore they believed what the WELS taught, but here this is another manipulation since no one went over with them the pros and cons of what Walther taught, or even said it was controversial. It's similar to how evolution is taught in public school as fact without letting on that real scientists doubt it or disbelieve it. But no matter. I'm sure that eventually, with the help of the internet, the Calvinists will be exposed and tossed out on their cans.
Library Liquidation Sale - First Set - Alison Weir on Henry VIII, Wives, Children, Court
I am going to list sections of my library for sale, because most people will not want to order boxes of books at a time. If the link is still up, the books are still available. I will keep the links on the upper left hand corner of the blog page.
The first set is one of my favorites, but it looks brand new. I am a fanatic for proper care of books. So all my new books are still new and only a few are beaten up by previous owners.
Leather books by Easton are well crafted and built to last forever. This Alison Weir set is one of their most attractive, bound in black, red, and gold on the covers and gold-leafed on the edges, with a silk marker in each one.
Volume I - The Six Wives of Henry VIII. Our Lutheran history is related to Ann Bolyn's influence on Henry, and the flight of Protestants to America stems from the Protestant/Catholic division in his own household.
Volume II - The Children of Henry VIII. The birth and death of Henry's children changed the empire. Edward rules as a Protestant and died very young. Bloody Mary ruled as a persecuting Roman Catholic, and also died rather young.
Volume III - The Life of Elizabeth I. Elizabeth ruled forever as a moderate Protestant, shaped by the execution of her mother and her first lover. The pope defended her, saying "She only rules one island and only part of that, yet all of Europe is afraid of her." She could ream out a foreign ambassador in perfect Latin. She supported the real Shakespeare, the Earl of Oxford, and defeated the Spanish Armada.
Volume IV - Henry VIII, The King and His Court. Henry changed during his rule, from being a foolish, spendthrift, athletic and handsome young man to being a disgusting, bloated, but successful king.
A lot of historians are boring, unable to give up a single note-card or trivial fact. Weir has combined fascinating details with a dramatic narrative in each book. Anyone interested in royalty, English history, or the influence of the Tudor Monarchs will love this readable set.
Price - $50 plus shipping.
Contact - gregjackson1948@qwest.net
Note - this set has been requested. The link will be removed once the sale is final. Look for more listings soon.
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God Speaks Clearly
Berry grew up in Moline and said Mayberry RFD reminded him of home.
What's the connection with this post? None.
LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Grace Does Not Equal Forgiveness":
"Terms must be distinguished unless they are synonyms. The Holy Spirit chose to communicate the Gospel in the most precise and flexible language on earth - Greek."
That is a statement that should resonate with clergy and laymen alike. There is no excuse for a bad translation or interpretation. God's word means what it says and says what it means. If the Bible doesn't speak in a certain way, then why should we?
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GJ - Joe Krohn and Brett Meyer brought up the issue of how to speak about religious terms.
God speaks with the greatest clarity, but man muddles things up by shading meaning and changing meaning, too.
For example, the term infallible was always used for the Scriptures until the apostates began redefining the word as "infallible in doctrine, but not in history or geography." After infallible was watered down, conservatives began to use inerrant. The apostates (like David Preus, former ALC President) gloated that inerrant was a new word, and they were troubled (wink, wink) about a new word for the Bible. In fact, the Latin words for inerrant and infallible are both used in the Book of Concord - by Luther!
The apostates also do not like using anything post-Luther. That is their excuse for ignoring the Formula of Concord. But relax folks - the entire Syn Conference ignores the Formula of Concord, too. For most the of the leadership, the Book of Concord is a closed book, as interesting as an old edition of the Physician's Desk Reference.
The Bible speaks clearly about all issues. To say the Bible is confusing and contradictory is to attack the Word of God itself. I have noticed the current false leaders returning to Roman Catholic argumentation to sustain their errors. According to the Lutheran clergy, only they--the priesthood--can interpret the Word. For example, Jenswold and Glende (both Fox Valley) have both laid claim to their infallibility because they have studied Greek! Oh my! Our groundskeeper knows Greek too, a bit more than Jenswold and Glende put together. God speaks clearly in His Word, so any layman with a faithful translation can debate Christian doctrine.
In fact, I find the laity much more astute than the clergy about doctrine, because no one has taught them repeat-after-me talking points.
WELS/LCMS/ELS Talking Points from the Church of Rome
- The Word of God is not clear to you dopes, so the clergy must explain it to you.
- Holy Mother Synod is the ultimate authority on the Word, even though convention actions are the result of political lobbying and subject to reversal and change.
- No one should dare to offend the great and terrible Oz by questioning his clerical authority.
- This is a g-r-e-y area of Scripture.
Faithful Lutherans are faced with the problem of discussing Christian doctrine with a vocabulary and mindset corrupted by the clergy. The answer is to rely on faithful translations (KJV, Concordia Triglotta) and faithful books.
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No Excuse for Everyone Being Asleep on This, Eh?
bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Mercy! - The LCMS Budget Is Corrupt Beyond Belief":
In the last few years two Preus sons opted for the LCC seminary at St. Catherines in Canada because it's much cheaper than Ft. Wayne, and they are still there. Students (and their wives) can stay in Canada or commute from the US which is only 15 miles away.
Here's what Daniel Preus of the Luther Academy had to say about his son who left Ft. Wayne sometime in 2008 or before. That son did not complete all four years there and didn't go into the ministry:
At the Texas Confessional Lutheran Free Conference XIX in Texas, on Sep 5, 2008, Rev. Daniel Preus told the audience at 1 hr, 3 min, and 44 seconds into the presentation (it's on MP3):
I will say this: we need more pastors...I'm a little bit sensitive to this because my son went to the seminary and couldn't afford to continue. He left. You have seminarians who are now graduating with debts of fifty to seventy thousand dollars. And I think the problem that we need to look at, which is not how many men are graduating, the problem is the church is not providing, our Missouri Synod is not providing for the education of ministerial candidates. Have I said that clearly enough? We are not taking care of the education of our ministerial candidates. And I think if one wants to give credibility to this Ablaze! movement, you would make it the first priority to cover entirely all the tuition of seminary students. And you would not make it the obligation of the seminaries to come up with the money, but that the church would do it.
Rev Daniel Preus, Luther Academy
http://www.lutheracademy.com/about-us/officers2/daniel-preus.html
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GJ -
In Ontario, even the German Lutherans end many sentences with "Eh?" Everyone drinks Molson beer there, eh?
I wonder if Missouri will end up with a group of pastors affecting the Ontario accent. The Canadians are wonderful people and their soldiers are great warriors. Too bad they are stuck with so much socialism and government control. Most of our bad American ideas are imported from Canada and Britain.
Long ago, seminary tuition was extremely low. But the schools discovered they could lay off all their costs onto student debt, using many of them as cash cows to milk while they were students, only to force them out before being able to use their degrees. I could name three men I know who fit that description, and I am not well versed in all the people run through the LCMS seminaries.
Besides that, I recall a time when people worried about having enough pastors and wanted to keep their pastor. But the "conservative" leadership, the same ones who took free educations and ran up the debts of the next generation, played games with calls and meddled in congregations. Dysfunctional members learned they could work with the DP or his hatchet-man to get rid of a pastor who offended them by preaching against adultery-or-for sound doctrine. Liars and adulterers love one another and work in perfect harmony.
Congregations and synods do not honor the pastoral office because they despise the Word. For example, the Wisconsin sect sends their graduates out consumed with righteousness through the Law. Like the Calvinists they are, the faculty members teach the men that the Word is dead on its own. The students need to make it come alive, as in real, relevant, and relational. The utter lack of action about The CORE and many clones (CrossWalk in Phoenix) proves how little SP Schroeder cares about sound doctrine when money is on the line.
For years God has been sending the ELS, WELS, and LCMS the same message, "You think money will solve your problems? I will let you have lots of money while you let your church bodies fall apart." I was not getting all anointed and becoming a prophet. Luther did that too, rephrasing passages of Scripture.
To repeat myself, half of SP Harrison's supporters voted to continue working with ELCA. Everyone knew the liberal half of Missouri would go for that, but half of the conservatives who voted to depose Kieschnick felt the same way. How can any Christian church body work with ELCA, an abortion provider and gay marriage promoter?
Any group that will work with Thrivent - that is who. Thrivent insurance is umbrella group that allows everyone to work with ELCA - and rewards them for it.
WELS is so deep into apostasy that they raise money for a heretical sect - The Salvation Army.
And no, I was not an RCMP. This is a Photoshop.
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Tuesday, January 18, 2011
Rebuking False Doctrine and False Teachers Is an Obligation of the Pastoral Ministry
Northwest SD Lutheran has left a new comment on your post "Co-Worker of the Notorious Iver Johnson - Worried ...":
What is interesting here is it sounds like they are even refusing to address foul and false teachings. They are doing this under the guise of the 8th Commandment. I do not know about you but I think that one should rebuke false teaching.
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GJ -
KJV 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
KJV Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
Stadler's congregation grew by taking in WELS members who were under discipline in other congregations. Stadler was divorced and re-married. Iver Johnson was celebrating his golden wedding anniversary and "counseling" the church secretary at the same time. And WELS would have Michael J. Albrecht admonish The Sausage Factory from the Holy of Holies, the WELS Essay Files.
The essay is worth reading - just for the experience of watching a pastor get as giddy as a schoolgirl over a bevvy of outrageous pagan false teachers.
The WELS Essay File should be audited for the number of ex-pastors, false teachers, atheists, and scoundrels found therein. Mark and Avoid Jeske! Curtis the Atheist Peterson! Mike He's Counseling the Secretary Right Now Albrecht! Sig Guilt-Free Saints in Hell Becker! Jon Iscariot Is Forgiven Buchholz! Paul Calvin Kelm! Dan Escape to Missouri with Wife #2 Kelm! Paul Church Growth with Floyd Luther Stolzenburg Kuske - "On Dealing with Doctrinal Aberration"! Richard Iver's Tied Up Right Now Stadler! Richard Starr's Homosexual Essay, a Foretaste of My Homosexual Book.
There are 19 essays by Wayne UOJ and CG Mueller, but only 10 by Kelm. David Never Went to Fuller Valleskey has 35 essays, while Joel Never Read a Book Voss has none. James Dewey Tiefel has quite a few on worship. Marc Divorce Your Wife and Marry Another Schroeder has one essay in, even though John Seifert kicked him out of WELS (not for serial marriage).
The great thing about the WELS essay file is being able to go through the names and marvel at those careers of debauchery, false doctrine, and apostasy - a Smoking Gun mugfile for Lutherans.
Just to prove my point - I looked up Richard Jungkuntz' sole contribution in the essay files. It is on the "Ministry of Reconciliation," a district convention essay, 1954.
I have argued in the past that he was the prime mover in opening up the Wisconsin Synod to apostasy, laying the groundwork for the Church Growth Movement taking over. He taught at Northwestern College, seedbed of the Seminex Movement in the LCMS.
His essay is a halleluia chorus to UOJ. Below is one quotation:
The direct consequence of this change in the relationship between God and man was the justification of the whole world, the declaring of every sinner righteous before God. For that is the meaning in positive terms of what St. Paul here states negatively: “not imputing their trespasses unto them.” It is impossible to overemphasize this statement. For in our own time, even in our own Synodical Conference, this vital truth is being endangered, both by direct attack and by neglect. What is stated here by St. Paul means much more than merely that God has “provided and secured” salvation for all men, so that it is now possible for them to be justified through faith. Rather, it means nothing less than that already before faith, without faith, they have been justified by God, declared righteous for Christ’s sake, their sins no longer imputed to them. Henceforth it can never be sin that damns a man, any man, but only the rejection of God’s act of justification. From God’s standpoint every sinner is a reconciled sinner.
Jungkuntz was a liberal's liberal, smoked out in WELS, then by Jack Preus in the LCMS, ending his career in The ALC.
He told the NY Times he was "old school."
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Feel Free To Use Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant At Your Church
A pastor asked permission to use parts of Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant, which can be ordered from Lulu.com and downloaded as a PDF for free. The Leader's Guide can also be downloaded for free.
There is no need to ask permission to use the book or parts of it, because I would like people to have unlimited privileges in their teaching efforts. The copyright prevents people from reprinting it with their name on the title page, because I know how often that happens today in the Church and Change crowd. DP Englebrecht says it is fine to break the law and deceive people, because a number of WELS pastors do that. The next church worker to murder his spouse should ask for Englebrecht to serve as prosecutor or judge.
Nevertheless, I doubt whether the Shrinkers would copy Lutheran doctrine!
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Co-Worker of the Notorious Iver Johnson - Worried about Slandering False Teachers
What did he know and when did he know it?
Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Heavens to Betsy, Amy":
People should be offended that their elders, clergy, church, district and Synod are allowing such heinous statements and practices to continue. I've wondered that myself as I witness the glassy eyed stares of the laity I talk to. The answer is in the false doctrines which they are being taught. UOJ is certainly the most wretched and damaging, separating the confessor from Christ. Yet, there are others which are taught with equal vigor and have similar effects. One is the great commission where the (W)ELS perverts Matt 28:19 into a Methodist/Pentecostal call to action. Another is concerns how public sins are treated and the proper application of
I ran across this (W)ELS essay which, regardless of its ineffectiveness as a deterrent to the power of positive thinking (it really acts as a platform for the false teaching to express itself), promotes the same twisted agenda that we see time after time from the false teachers in the Lutheran Synods - "it's not what he said that matters, it's what he meant when he said, or did, XYZ that really matters."
Positive Thinking And Possibility Thinking In The Church: What Does Scripture Say?
[South Central District Pastor/Teacher/Delegate Conference
Lord of Life Evangelical Lutheran Church Friendswood, TX January 28-29, 1988]
By Pastor Michael J. Albrecht
Whenever we set out to evaluate and to criticize people with whom we find ourselves in disagreement, it behooves us to remember not only that slander is a crime, but also that no matter who they may be, they are protected by God's Eighth Commandment. Whether he be a heretic or a pagan, each and every one of my fellow human beings deserves for me to put the best construction on what he says and does. Page 1
I hope we are being fair to Dr. Peale if we now move on to a brief evaluation of his most popular book, assuming that we have sufficient background to understand his words as he intended them to be understood. Page 3
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/AlbrechtThinking.PDF
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GJ - To quote Bishop Fulton Sheen, "I find Paul appealing but Peale appalling."
Norman Vincent Peale was an apostate, a non-Christian who plagiarized his best-seller from an occult writer. That plagiarism was proven decades ago.
Peale inspired Robert Schuller. Albrecht practically drooled on Schuller's hob-nailed boots in this essay. The humor is impossible to miss - now that Schuller's cathedral is bankrupt, just like the Church Growth Movement he spawned.
Stadler and Albrecht were known as Shrinkers before they were booted out of WELS. Stadler was buddies with Paul Calvin Kelm and Wayne Mueller. I will look up the graduation photo. Birds of a feather do flock together.
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Lutheran CORE - News and Discussion: ELCA evicts African Lutherans because of opposition to new ELCA teaching and policy
Lutheran CORE - News and Discussion: ELCA evicts African Lutherans because of opposition to new ELCA teaching and policy
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2011
ELCA evicts African Lutherans because of opposition to new ELCA teaching and policy
The ELCA is taking harsh actions against African immigrant Lutherans who oppose the ELCA’s new teaching and policy on marriage and same-sex sexual relationships.
Two African immigrant congregations have been expelled from local ELCA congregations where they have worshiped at the direction of ELCA officials.
“Oromo congregations in Houston, Texas, and Denver, Colorado, were asked by their mission directors and host church to leave the church premises without delay. The reason they were given was they are not in agreement with the August 2009 Churchwide Assembly resolution,” the January newsletter of the United Oromo Evangelical Churches reported.
The 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly voted to change ELCA teaching and practice on marriage and sexual ethics to affirm same-sex sexual relationships and to allow pastors to be in those relationships.
The 2009 assembly also asked the ELCA to respect the “bound consciences” of those who disagree with the church’s new teaching and practice. But that part has been more difficult for ELCA officials.
“One of the things mentioned to the leaders of the church in Denver: ‘Rev. Gemechis Buba has resigned from his ELCA position and we assume you have a similar stand and we have no reason to keep you in our buildings,’” the newsletter reported.
The Rev. Dr. Gemechis Buba is the former Director of African National Ministries for the ELCA. He resigned his ELCA position Dec. 8 to accept a call to serve as Missions Director for the North American Lutheran Church.
Dr. Buba was the first prominent leader from the ELCA national offices in Chicago to leave the church body since the 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly.
Members of these congregations came to America to escape persecution because of their Christian faith in their native Ethiopia under the Communist regime that ruled Ethiopia until 1991. Some of them were imprisoned and tortured because of their commitment to Christ. They now face a different kind of persecution in their new home because of their faith.
“We ask all of our church leaders to announce fasting and prayer time for the difficulties we currently facing,” the newsletter requests.
Two African immigrant congregations have been expelled from local ELCA congregations where they have worshiped at the direction of ELCA officials.
“Oromo congregations in Houston, Texas, and Denver, Colorado, were asked by their mission directors and host church to leave the church premises without delay. The reason they were given was they are not in agreement with the August 2009 Churchwide Assembly resolution,” the January newsletter of the United Oromo Evangelical Churches reported.
The 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly voted to change ELCA teaching and practice on marriage and sexual ethics to affirm same-sex sexual relationships and to allow pastors to be in those relationships.
The 2009 assembly also asked the ELCA to respect the “bound consciences” of those who disagree with the church’s new teaching and practice. But that part has been more difficult for ELCA officials.
“One of the things mentioned to the leaders of the church in Denver: ‘Rev. Gemechis Buba has resigned from his ELCA position and we assume you have a similar stand and we have no reason to keep you in our buildings,’” the newsletter reported.
The Rev. Dr. Gemechis Buba is the former Director of African National Ministries for the ELCA. He resigned his ELCA position Dec. 8 to accept a call to serve as Missions Director for the North American Lutheran Church.
Dr. Buba was the first prominent leader from the ELCA national offices in Chicago to leave the church body since the 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly.
Members of these congregations came to America to escape persecution because of their Christian faith in their native Ethiopia under the Communist regime that ruled Ethiopia until 1991. Some of them were imprisoned and tortured because of their commitment to Christ. They now face a different kind of persecution in their new home because of their faith.
“We ask all of our church leaders to announce fasting and prayer time for the difficulties we currently facing,” the newsletter requests.
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GJ - ELCA knows how to administer church discipline. Every synod should do the same, so the faithful and apostate are aligned properly instead of being mixed together.
WELS says, "Ooooh. Gunn is in big trouble." Then Gunn is elected to a WELS college board of directors, joined by two others from the same congregation - his.
And WELS says, "Now Gunn is really going to get it." Then his own DP promotes a Church and Change youth rally featuring Gunn, with the promotional material almost giving sainthood to the imposter.
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ELCA; ELS; LCMS; WELS; CLC (sic)
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