Tuesday, July 17, 2018

Rolf Really Needs To Study His Father's Book,
But He Should Start with the Large Catechism

 I realize this is irrelevant for those on SpenerQuest.

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Pastor Rolf David Preus (Rolf)
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I should also point out that Jackson has falsely stated numerous times that my father abandoned the doctrine of objective justification before he died. He appeals to his book, Justification and Rome, in which he set forth the historic Lutheran doctrine of justification using the terms that the Lutheran dogmaticians used. Jackson imagines that since the 17th century dogmaticians didn't articulate objective justification by using the same language as the 19th and 20th century theologians of the Synodical Conference, this must mean that the 17th century theologians taught a different doctrine than we who use the terms objective justification and subjective justification teach. He interprets my father setting forth the 17th century theologians' teaching in their own language as my father abandoning his life-long teaching of objective justification. What Jackson demonstrates is not that the 17th century Lutherans taught differently than the 19th and 20th century theologians of the Synodical Conference, but rather the rigidity of his own thinking. To understand theology, we must know how to express the same truth with different words.

When Jackson accuses my father of changing his doctrine on this critical topic he bears false witness against him.


 Rolf Preus agreed with Chapter Five of Thy Strong Word, when I sent it to him. Shortly after, he said he had the entire book (when nobody did) and it was full of false doctrine. He was the one who asked for the chapter, and I sent it to him by email. Later he wanted the whole book. Ha!

Let me briefly rehearse Robert Preus on Justification. Robert posted a bizarre and foolish little essay endorsing Objective Justification, which Ft. Wayne bullies Cascione and McCain have cited to prove that Robert Preus taught OJ.

Here is my post from 2011 on Preus' change in position.

Jack Cascione boasted here about his significant role at Ft. Wayne and his expertise in OJ. This post includes the Preus essay.

ELDONA, which is 95% Ft. Waynian, switched from OJ to Justification and Rome.

Another Preus on the warpath is posted here.

John Sparky Brenner on Election without Faith, which is another way of arguing Justification without Faith.

Robert Preus' Shift from Objective Justification
Rolf has a way of amusing people about his doctrinal blindness. The essay which he, Cascione, and McCain adore is pure OJ rubbish - laughable in every possible way. I wrote a critique of it, but I have lost the blog link for now.

At one point I had a Robert Preus typescript essay where he quoted OJ arguments and also the critiques which I copied from his last book, Justification and Rome.

I carefully read Justification and Rome and copied the citations from Quenstedt and Calov and Preus! which destroy OJ.  In his last work, which was probably much better before his sons mangled it, Robert was 99% Justification by Faith and 1% OJ.

 Bishop Heiser and the Pope of All Synods worked closely together - until they no longer did.

Rolf is constantly stirred up because I wonder about him being bedfellows with a self-appointed OJ/JBF bishop and the self-appointed dogma-shifting bishop for being bedfellows with Rolf.


Disagreeing with Rolf is not the same as slander, which he would know if he comprehended the Book of Concord. Nor do I consider his careful, nuanced mistakes as slander against me.

My only goal is to get Lutherans to study Biblical doctrine from the ruling norm (not from Stephan's pimp) - and from the ruled norm, the Book of Concord. (PS - It is not slander if it is true - Walther backed a promiscuous, syphilitic, abusive man as bishop. Recent history tells me that is one way to become a bishop.)

Readers can judge for themselves whether Justification by Faith or Objective Justification without Faith is Biblical. I would write less about OJ if the Stormtroopers did not obsess about it, offer absurd syllogisms to support it, and invent personal attacks to support their grace-filled ministries.

"SpenerQuest is pacified once again, Cardinal.
Now we will work on the rest of Lutherdom."