Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Walther the Pietistic Pentecostal

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/09/bullies-make-sure-there-is-only-one.html


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Walther was a true Pentecostal minister. Pentecostal ministers never like to be questioned and they have no tolerance for dissent. Anyone who opposes them is considered a heretic, a well known bullying tactic.

May be back then these LC-MS Lutherans were really Pentecostals who love to quote, "touch not the Lord's anointed".

These so called "orthodox Lutheran" luminaries question everything; for example they question some parts of their denomination, an example of this is the so called "Steadfast Lutheran (sic)" group who does this often. Yet, they never question the source nor the origin of their denomination nor examine their history.

BTW, just observe, the number of historical scholars they have, they out number the exegetical and systematic scholars.

Ironic, no?

We call this ineptitude - the incapability of self-reflection.

LPC

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Three statues of Walther in Missouri?
Perryville, Purple Palace, and this creepy shrine.

GJ - Walther never received a solid Lutheran education. He had a four-year degree in rationalism plus his experiences with various domineering cell groups. Later he confessed the Stephan was a bit of a Pietist! So funny. If Walther was in a Halle-led Bible study cell group, a Pietistic cell until their leader moved and died, and Stephan's cell group ministry - Ferdy was a Pietist himself.

Walther served under two oppressive, demanding, take-no-prisoners Pietistic gurus. It was only natural that he was formed by that abuse and became another abuser.

He did not want the early history of the Missouri Synod written down, because he was so much involved in it.

But he did glory in the honors, in the big parade for him. The LCMS is the only Lutheran sect that venerates a criminal as a saint, ignoring the real founder Stephan in favor of his enforcer.

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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Walther the Pietistic Pentecostal":

With Walther being such a criminal held in high regard in the Missouri Synod, it's good that Walther & Co. were not the Twelve Disciples. Otherwise, the Christian Church would be venerating the two thieves on the cross instead of Jesus.

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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Walther the Pietistic Pentecostal":

Icahabod -

I'm still waiting for the LCMS to rid itself of these C. F. Walther graven images. Even the secular school of Penn State musters more worldly sense than any spiritual sense that Missouri has proffered; - at least to this point.

Those 10 incriminating actions of Walther are very telling and convincing. And Dr. Cruz makes an excellent point about Missouri's lack of self-reflection.

My question is: "Why won't Missouri harness all their doctrine into some practical theology and tear down these vain, shameful and embarrassing images?

Nathan M. Bickel

www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org

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Stephan was investigated by the courts for his immorality before he left.
Walther kidnapped his niece and nephew and escaped arrest warrants issued by the police.


GJ - The 200th anniversary of Walther is revealing. The mythologists are still telling the same lies. Pastor Otten admitted that they lie about the armed kidnapping of Stephan at the cult center in Perryville.

The new Stephan book was attacked by the rabid dogs of Missouridom, even though 90% of the facts were already published in Zion on the Mississippi.

The problem with the Stephan book is that last 10%, which explains so much. Without spelling out the details, In Search of Religious Freedom (hardee-har-har title) shows that Stephan had a long-standing case of syphilis. His horrible rashes were syphilis, so he went to spas for treatment. His later children were born with syphilis, and the wife and children died young. Do we assume that Walther looked at those pitiable children and knew nothing of syphilis? that he saw young women around Stephan and suspected nothing until years later? that Stephan sailed for the Promised Land with his mistress and not his wife, but no one suspected anything?

Stephan had permission to hold cell group meetings at his Pietistic church,
but he often took young women along on his walks late at night,
for additional conventicle meetings.