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Thursday, September 6, 2012
Hunnius on Faith. The UOJ Fanatics Give Themselves Away.
False Gospel and False Faith
narrow-minded has left a new comment on your post "The Biblical View of Faith Contradicts UOJ Claims":
The UOJers claim that they are not pooh-poohing faith, but here it is from the horse's mouth ("Thesis Opposed to Huberianism," by Aegidius Hunnius):
Thesis 39
Huber completely outlaws and eliminates all regard for faith from the act of eternal predestination, and dreams that, in the act of God's electing, people have been elected to salvation in a bare way, without any view toward faith in Christ. From this it is plain that he contends that they have also truly and properly been elected and predestined to eternal life who have never believed on Christ, including those who never will believe for all eternity. For what else is it than to draw men in under the election to salvation whether they believe it or not?
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narrow-minded has left a new comment on your post "Hunnius on Faith. The UOJ Fanatics Give Themselves...":
I neglected to add "page 23" in my above citation.
While I'm here, this sounds like Walther's Easter Sermon (Above cited source, p. 25):
Thesis 48
Therefore, it is certain that [Huber] does not include a consideration of faith in election per se, but afterwards subordinates faith to, at most, a fruit [in bold] of an election that has already been completed, perfected, and finished by the sole mercy and merit of Christ, made without any consideration of faith. And [Huber] affirms that it is only an effect of election, required for the goal (that is, salvation) to be obtained.
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GJ - Narrow-minded, you can see what the faculties of the parochial seminaries cannot, for they are united with ELCA in teaching world absolution and calling it grace. Amazing!
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