Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Catholic Church Puts Legal Pressure on Survivors’ Network - NYTimes.com.
Is WELS Different? Missouri?

One of the worst offenders, Archbishop Weakland,
lectured at Wisconsin Lutheran College (WELS).


Catholic Church Puts Legal Pressure on Survivors’ Network - NYTimes.com:

Turning the tables on an advocacy group that has long supported victims of pedophile priests, lawyers for the Roman Catholic Church and priests accused of sexual abuse in two Missouri cases have gone to court to compel the group to disclose more than two decades of e-mails that could include correspondence with victims, lawyers, whistle-blowers, witnesses, the police, prosecutors and journalists.
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The group, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, known as SNAP, is neither a plaintiff nor a defendant in the litigation. But the group has been subpoenaed five times in recent months in Kansas City and St. Louis, and its national director, David Clohessy, was questioned by a battery of lawyers for more than six hours this year. A judge in Kansas City ruled that the network must comply because it “almost certainly” had information relevant to the case.

The network and its allies say the legal action is part of a campaign by the church to cripple an organization that has been the most visible defender of victims, and a relentless adversary, for more than two decades. “If there is one group that the higher-ups, the bishops, would like to see silenced,” said Marci A. Hamilton, a law professor at Yeshiva University and an advocate for victims of clergy sex crimes, “it definitely would be SNAP. And that’s what they’re going after. They’re trying to find a way to silence SNAP.”

Lawyers for the church and priests say they cannot comment because of a judge’s order. But William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, a church advocacy group in New York, said targeting the network was justified because “SNAP is a menace to the Catholic Church.”

Mr. Donohue said leading bishops he knew had resolved to fight back more aggressively against the group: “The bishops have come together collectively. I can’t give you the names, but there’s a growing consensus on the part of the bishops that they had better toughen up and go out and buy some good lawyers to get tough. We don’t need altar boys.”

He said bishops were also rethinking their approach of paying large settlements to groups of victims. “The church has been too quick to write a check, and I think they’ve realized it would be a lot less expensive in the long run if we fought them one by one,” Mr. Donohue said.

However, a spokeswoman for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Sister Mary Ann Walsh, said Mr. Donohue was incorrect.

“There is no national strategy,” she said, and there was no meeting where legal counsel for the bishops decided to get more aggressive.

Mr. Clohessy and others founded the survivors network as a loose collective of volunteers who had been victimized by Catholic priests. Their goal was to help others grapple with the emotional and psychological fallout. They make referrals to therapists and lawyers, and hold protests outside church offices.

The group has three paid staff members, two part-time administrators and volunteers who lead 55 chapters in the United States and about 8 overseas. Its total revenue for 2010 was $352,903, some of it donations by lawyers who have sued the church. The group says it has spent about $50,000 and hundreds of hours of staff time since the subpoenas began, and is now arranging for lawyers who will work pro bono.

When the scandal over clergy sexual abuse reached a peak in Boston in 2002, American bishops met at their conference in Dallas with network members who gave emotional testimony about the toll of the abuse. But relations have deteriorated since then, and SNAP members say bishops now refuse to meet with them.

The first indication that the network would be caught up in legal proceedings came from Kansas City, where Bishop Robert W. Finn last year became the first American bishop ever to be criminally indicted for failure to report suspected child abuse.

Mr. Clohessy received a subpoena in October at his St. Louis home, where he works, regarding the case John Doe B.P. v. the Rev. Michael Tierney and the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph.

Four plaintiffs are accusing Father Tierney of sexually abusing them years ago. The cases would be outside the statute of limitations in Missouri, but the plaintiffs contend they recovered their memories of abuse only recently.

The subpoena asked that Mr. Clohessy turn over all documents in the last 23 years that mention repressed memory, any current or former priest in Kansas City, the diocese, Father Tierney, John Doe or Rebecca Randles, the attorney for the plaintiffs.

The church’s lawyers say they need to see SNAP’s records to investigate whether Ms. Randles violated a gag order by giving the group information about one of the Tierney cases before it was filed, which the group then included in a news release.

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Never-Ending "Leadership" Conferences - From False Teachers Who Spend Synod Money Attending Them,
Then Collect Money for Giving Them



rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Don't Fail To Miss This Wisconsin Lutheran College...":

When I read about yet another leadership conference, I thought of the "The Song That Never Ends":
(with apologies to the late Shari Lewis and Lamb Chops. Credit for the lyrics from Wikipedia)

This is the song that doesn't ends,
Yes it goes on and on like friends,
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because,

This is the song that doesn't ends,
Yes it goes on and on like friends,
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because, Etc...



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GJ - All the false teachers sell their wisdom for huge fees. Robert Schuller did. Hybels, Warren, Driscoll, Stanley, Beeson, Stetzer, and Sweet still do. Ask Ski and Glende - who went to all of them, like their Zombie King, Mark and Avoid Jeske.

The Church Shrinkage leaders in Missouri and WELS have gone to all of those gas-bags, and even pay them to sell their garbage at Lutheran schools and churches.

And then - get this - they host their own expensive conferences to repeat the same old bromides.

WELS makes me laugh, because they try to hide all this - on the Net! That is not a good place to hide information.

Martin Luther College did that with their last brain-washing effort, disguised as Evangelism Day or Mission Day or Bow Before Baal Day. They hid the leaders from the general public, but it was still there. And. I. Published. The. List.

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California wrote:

Re: the upcoming "Hearts and Hands of David Conference" to be held at WLC,  on the link for the workshop's website, one of the purposes for the workshop is identified as: "Provide a safe forum for discussing important issues in Lutheran worship".   SAFE?   Safe from what or whom?

Those pesky laymen with pitchforks, tar and feathers who just may descend on the event?  Ichabod?  Any dissenters armed with the Word of God?

Seems only fair to any participants being recruited, that conference sponsor's assurance of "safety" should identify from whom or what the participants need protection.

Don't Fail To Miss This Wisconsin Lutheran College Shindig.
Kelm's Ichabod Effect Leadership Coven


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Dear WELS Called Worker,

Greetings from Wisconsin Lutheran College!

We are excited to announce that Wisconsin Lutheran College is hosting two conferences in the upcoming months that may be of interest to you.
Hearts and Hands of David Worship Workshop
In April, in conjunction with the church band Koiné, the college will host a workshop on modern artistry in Lutheran Worship.

The "Hearts and Hands of David" workshop is designed to connect, encourage, and grow artists and musicians who use modern technology, art, and instrumentation in Lutheran Worship.

For more information on the event, which will be held April 20-21, please visit the workshop's website.
2012 Leadership Conference
In June, the college's Center for Christian Leadership will host the 2012 Leadership Conference, in consultation with the Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary and the WELS Commission on Congregational Counseling.

The conference will facilitate a Biblical and honest discussion of how pastors and lay leaders work together to advance Christ’s kingdom. It is designed for WELS laymen, laywomen, and pastors. The conference’s goal is to provide practical leadership skills and tools applied to your church’s context.

To download a brochure or review the agenda for the June 8-9 event, visit the conference's website.

We hope to see you on the Wisconsin Lutheran College campus in the near future.



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GJ - Readers - please read all the material on Kelm conference and try to identify some names. Perhaps I am blind.


Kelm, the Prince of Darkness in WELS, cannot stand opposition, cannot deal with it. The best way is to keep the information secret so no one can object.


Continued WELS passivity will let the deceit and stealth continue. That helped create the Joel Hochmuth debacle, where multiple heinous crimes against children were being committed at The Love Shack itself, but "no one knew" although "he already had counseling" and "we assured him of his forgiveness" just before he pleaded NOT GUILTY. --- LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Don't Fail To Miss This Wisconsin Lutheran College...": And there you go. Laymen, LAYWOMEN and pastors on equal ground when it comes to the ministry; together at a leadership conference no less. They really should totally emasculate themselves of the Lutheran name. Wisconsin Evangelical Reformed Synod would pay homage to the old Prussian Union.

Henry Eyster Jacobs Holy Communion Hymn





"Lord Jesus Christ, We Humbly Pray"
by Henry E. Jacobs, 1844-1932

1. Lord Jesus Christ, we humbly pray
That we may feed on Thee today;
Beneath these forms of bread and wine
Enrich us with Thy grace divine.

2. The chastened peace of sin forgiven,
The filial joy of heirs of heaven,
Grant as we share this wondrous food,
Thy body broken and Thy blood.

3. Our trembling hearts cleave to Thy Word;
All Thou hast said Thou dost afford,
All that Thou art we here receive,
And all we are to Thee we give.

4. One bread, one cup, one body, we,
United by our life in Thee,
Thy love proclaim till Thou shalt come
To bring Thy scattered loved ones home.

5. Lord Jesus Christ, we humbly pray
To keep us steadfast to that day
That each may be Thy welcomed guest
When Thou shalt spread Thy heavenly feast.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #314
Text: 1 Cor. 10:17
Author: Henry E. Jacobs, 1910
Tune: "Herr Jesu Christ, dich"
1st Published in: Cantionale Germanicum
Town: Dresden, 1628

His work would make an excellent guide for all pastors and laity,
but especially for the CPs, DPs, and SPs.

Holy Communion Hymn by John Huss - The Czech Reformer.



"Jesus Christ, Our Blessed Savior"
by John Huss, 1373?-1415

1. Jesus Christ, our blessed Savior,
Turned away God's wrath forever;
By His bitter grief and woe
He saved us from the evil Foe.

2. As His pledge of love undying
He, this precious food supplying,
Gives His body with the bread
And with the wine the blood He shed.

3. Whoso to this Board repaireth
May take heed how He prepareth;
For if he does not believe,
Then death for life he shall recieve.

4. Praise the Father, who from heaven
Unto us such food hath given
And, to mend what we have done,
Gave into death His only Son.

5. Thou shalt hold with faith unshaken
That this food is to be taken
By the sick who are distrest,
By hearts that long for peace and rest.

6. Christ says: "Come, all ye that labor,
And receive My grace and favor;
They who feel no want nor ill
Need no physician's help nor skill.

7. "Useless were for thee My Passion,
If thy works thy weal could fashion.
This feast is not spread for thee
If thine own Savior thou wilt be."

8. If thy heart this truth professes
And thy mouth thy sin confesses,
His dear guest thou here shalt be,
And Christ Himself shall banquet thee.

Hymn #311
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Heb. 10:12
Author: John Huss, 1415, cento, asc.
Translated by: unknown
Titled: "Iesus Christus, nostra salus"
Tune: "Jesus Christus, unser Heiland"
1st Published in: Geistliche Lieder
Town: Wittenberg, 1535

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The flames were now applied to the fagots, when our martyr sung a hymn with so loud and cheerful a voice
that he was heard through all the cracklings of the combustibles, and the noise of the multitude. At length his
voice was interrupted by the severity of the flames, which soon closed his existence.
Then, with great diligence, gathering the ashes together, they cast them into the river Rhine, that the least
remnant of that man should not be left upon the earth, whose memory, notwithstanding, cannot be abolished
out of the minds of the godly, neither by fire, neither by water, neither by any kind of torment.

~Fox's Book of Martyrs


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churchmousec (http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Holy Communion Hymn by John Huss - The Czech Refor...":

Hmm ... sounds too much like faith.

And mentioning the 'evil Foe' in the first verse?

Sorry, banned.

...

On a serious note, that's one great set of hymn lyrics (wouldn't be allowed in the Anglican Church, though; they've already banned 'A mighty fortress is our God' and 'Onward Christian soldiers' along with crosses on gold chains).

Many thanks -- uplifting and encouraging!

Churchmouse

The Lord's My Shepherd, I'll Not Want.
The Lutheran Hymnal

Art by Norma Boeckler



"The Lord's My Shepherd, I'll Not Want"
by Francis Rous, 1579-1659, et al.

1. The Lord's my Shepherd, I'll not want;
He makes me down to lie
In pastures green; He leadeth me
The quiet waters by.

2. My soul He doth restore again
And me to walk doth make
Within the paths of righteousness,
E'en for His own name's sake.

3. Yea, tho' I walk in death's dark vale,
Yet will I fear no ill;
For Thou art with me, and Thy rod
And staff me comfort still.

4. My table Thou hast furnished
In presence of my foes;
My head Thou dost with oil anoint,
And my cup overflows.

5. Goodness and mercy, all my life,
Shall surely follow me;
And in God's house forevermore
My dwelling place shall be.

Hymn #436
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Psalm 23
Author: Francis Rous, et al., 1650
Composer: William Gardiner, 1812
Tune: "Belmont"




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 "The Lord's My Shepherd, I'll Not Want" first appeared in print in the Scottish Psalter of 1650. This Psalter was assembled by the Westminster Assembly, which also gave us the Westminster Confession and the Book of Common Prayer. In it, portions from various sources were combined to create the beautiful hymn we know today.

Though it was well-loved in Scotland, "The Lord's My Shepherd" did not enjoy popularity outside the Church of Scotland for nearly 300 years. It finally appeared in the Methodist Hymnal of 1876 and later the Congregational Hymnal of 1916. But it wasn't included in an Anglican hymnbook until 1965. The hymn version of Psalm 23 remains faithful to David's psalm.

Its popularity in England grew in part because of its use during the 1947 marriage ceremony between Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. Since that time, it's become a well-known hymn, often requested for weddings and funerals today

More Facts about Your Favorite Cult and Its Beginning.
Zion on the Mississippi

My copy was owned by the Stellhorn-Buenger family.

CPH published Zion on the Mississippi by Walter Forster in 1953, which has become the standard history of the Stephanite settlement in Perry County, Missouri.

The pastors of the Stephanite movement were known for holding illegal conventicles (cell groups) and for being separatists, condemning everyone else as godless and immoral. Stephan's Pietistic congregation had a charter that allowed for cell groups at the church, but he used conventicles as an excuse for his late night walks and meetings with women in various places.

Walther, still single, had a meeting late at night with a woman, whose husband struck her as she was leaving the parsonage. Walther supported her divorce and got into trouble for his efforts. Zion, p. 77. Others in the Pietistic circle seemed equally lawless in their holier-than-thou approach. Loeber (whose sermon in St. Louis allegedly sparked the famous adultery confession) sheltered a minor girl at his home, because he disagreed with the religious attitudes of the girl's mother. Zion, p. 77.

Keyl and Buerger also emphasized their separatism, which led to controversy and harsh feelings. Zion, p. 80.

Stephan fueled this attitude, at their leader, and contemplated leaving for America. Forster portrays this as a vacillating emotion, stronger when Stephan was in trouble for his dubious activities, harder to promote when the officials were easing up on the future bishop. Stephan's early dreams of leaving Dresden were stated in 1825 and 1827, the later date in conversations with General Synod leader Benjamin Kurtz, who visited him. Zion, p. 84.

Stephan was arrested for his night meetings in 1836 and prohibited from having any more, the police given permission to enforce the order. Zion, p. 90f.

Another evening meeting, at a vineyard lodge, was interrupted by the police on November 8, 1837. The police were making no progress with their interrogations when Stephan and Sophie Hoeschel approached the location at 5:30 AM. Forster calls this "the accustomed evening stroll." Stephan sent Sophie in alone but loitered too near and was spotted by police. Can anyone believe in the shock and surprise of the later adultery confession in St. Louis - if it even happened? Zion, p. 100f.

The vineyard meeting began the deliberate plans to leave Europe for America. The fund was established soon after. Vehse and Marbach, the lawyers who came to America, were involved in the legal difficulties and defending Stephan, so they were aware of all the facts before they left their homes.


The legal matters dragged on. Stephan was under a cloud of suspicion until he was finally released to go to America, shortly before the ships left. Accusations against him included his illegal meetings, his association with female groupies, and his misuse of money. His wife, in court testimony, identified clear instances of his adultery. Stephan, In Pursuit of Religious Freedom, p. 98. Although Stephan cleverly talked around the facts when examined, no one was really fooled.

I conclude that the legal authorities released him to rid themselves of the pastor and the entire troublesome group.


Paul Gerhardt Influenced Everyone Who Followed Him


Monday, March 12, 2012

Paul Gerhardt's Birthday Is Today.
Greatest and Most Influential Hymn-Writer.



"Upon the Cross Extended"
by Paul Gerhardt, 1607-1676

1. Upon the cross extended,
See, world, thy Lord suspended,
Thy Savior yields His breath.
The Prince of Life from heaven
Himself hath freely given
To shame and blows and bitter death.

2. Come hither now and ponder,
'Twill fill thy soul with wonder,
Blood streams from every pore.
Through grief whose depth none knoweth,
From His great heart there floweth
Sigh after sigh of anguish o'er.

3. Who is it that hath bruised Thee?
Who hath so sore abused Thee
And caused Thee all Thy woe?
While we must make confession
Of sin and dire transgression,
Thou deeds of evil dost not know.

4. I caused Thy grief and sighing
By evils multiplying
As countless as the sands.
I caused the woes unnumbered
With which Thy soul is cumbered,
Thy sorrows raised by wicked hands.

5. 'Tis I who should be smitten
My doom should here be written:
Bound hand and foot in hell.
The fetters and the scourging,
The floods around Thee surging,
'Tis I who have deserved them well.

6. The load Thou takest on Thee,
That pressed so sorely on me,
t crushed me to the ground.
The cross for me enduring,
The crown for me securing,
My healing in Thy wounds is found.

7. A crown of thorns Thou wearest,
My shame and scorn Thou bearest,
That I might ransomed be.
My Bondsman, ever willing,
My place with patience filling,
From sin and guilt hast made me free.

8. Thy cords of love, my Savior,
Bind me to Thee forever,
I am no longer mine.
To Thee I gladly tender
All that my life can render
And all I have to Thee resign.

9. Thy cross I'll place before me,
Its saving power be o'er me,
Wherever I may be;
Thine innocence revealing,
Thy love and mercy sealing,
The pledge of truth and constancy.

10. How God at our transgression
To anger gives expression,
How loud His thunder rolls,
How fearfully He smiteth,
How sorely He requiteth,-
All this Thy sufferings teach my soul.

11. When evil men revile me,
With wicked tongues defile me,
I'll curb my vengeful heart.
The unjust wrong I'll suffer,
Unto my neighbor offer
Forgiveness for each bitter smart.

12. Thy groaning and thy sighing,
Thy bitter tears and dying,
With which Thou wast opprest,-
They shall, when life is ending,
Be guiding and attending
My way to Thine eternal rest.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #171
Text: Heb. 9:28
Author: Paul Gerhardt
Translated by: John Kelly, 1867, alt.
Titled: O Welt, sieh hier dein Leben
Composer: Heinrich Friese, 1703
Tune: O Welt, sieh hier

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Paul Gerhardt, was born on March 12, 1607,
and died May 27, 1676.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gerhardt 


http://www.stempublishing.com/hymns/biographies/gerhardt.html


Paul Gerhardt, 1607-1676

Notes from "Popular Hymns and Their Writers" by Norman Mable:

This famous hymnist has been called the Wesley of the Fatherland; not for the number of hymns that he wrote but for their quality. Of Gerhardt's one hundred and twenty-three hymns, all show the mark of real genius, and nearly forty are still in common use. A celebrated preacher, Paulus Gerhardt was born in 1607 and lived through the Thirty Years War. His was mostly a sad life and he did not obtain a settled position until about 44 years of age, when he became minister of the country parish of Mittenwalde, near Berlin. Six years later, he was called to St. Nicholas Church in the capital, and remained there for nine happy years, enjoying universal love and esteem. Attempts had been made to unite the Lutheran and Reformed churches, and in 1664 an edict was issued by the Grand Elector of Brandenburg, virtually prohibiting mutual insults or offensive language between the churches. A strict Lutheran, Gerhardt refused to abide by this ruling, and in consequence was removed from his church in 1666. Driven from home, he and his broken-hearted wife with their children, for two years became wandering exiles.

One evening when staying at a wayside inn, Gerhardt went out, and under the starry sky pondered deeply over his misfortunes. Full of faith and hope, he put his thoughts into poetry and so was born the hymn we know as "Commit Whatever Grieves Thee". Hurrying back to the inn, he quickly wrote out the verses and at their evening devotions, read them to the family. Buoyed up and cheered by the inspiring poem, they retired to rest. But scarcely had they done so, than a thunderous knocking at the door roused them all. It was a mounted messenger from Duke Christian of Meresberg riding post haste to deliver a sealed packet to Mr. Gerhardt. It was an invitation from the Duke who offered him "Church, people, home and livelihood, and liberty to preach the Gospel as his heart may prompt him". The church was at Lubben in the Spreewald, where Gerhardt became archdeacon, and ministered until his death in 1676...

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"Commit Whatever Grieves Thee" by Paul Gerhardt, 1607-1676

1. Commit whatever grieves thee
Into the gracious hands
Of Him who never leaves thee,
Who heaven and earth commands.
Who points the clouds their courses,
Whom winds and waves obey,
He will direct thy footsteps
And find for thee a way.

2. On Him place thy reliance
If thou wouldst be secure;
His work thou must consider
If thine is to endure.
By anxious sighs and grieving
And self-tormenting care
God is not moved to giving;
All must be gained by prayer.

3. Thy truth and grace, O Father,
Most surely see and know
Both what is good and evil
For mortal man below.
According to Thy counsel
Thou wilt Thy work pursue;
And what Thy wisdom chooseth
Thy might will always do.

4. Thy hand is never shortened,
All things must serve Thy might;
Thine every act is blessing,
Thy path is purest light.
Thy work no man can hinder,
Thy purpose none can stay,
Since Thou to bless Thy children
Wilt always find a way.

5. Though all the powers of evil
The will of God oppose,
His purpose will not falter,
His pleasure onward goes.
Whate'er God's will resolveth,
Whatever He intends.
Will always be accomplished
True to His aims and ends.

6. Then hope, my feeble spirit,
And be thou undismayed;
God helps in every trial
And makes thee unafraid.
Await His time with patience,
Then shall thine eyes behold
The sun of joy and gladness
His brightest beams unfold.

7. Arise, my soul, and banish
Thy anguish and thy care.
Away with thoughts that sadden
And heart and mind ensnare!
Thou art not lord and master
Of thine own destiny;
Enthroned in highest heaven,
God rules in equity.

8. Leave all to His direction;
In wisdom He doth reign,
And in a way most wondrous
His course He will maintain.
Soon He, His promise keeping,
With wonder-working skill,
Shall put away the sorrows
That now thy spirit fill.

9. A while His consolation
He may to thee deny,
And seem as though in trial
He far from thee would fly;
A while distress and anguish
May compass thee around,
Nor to thy supplication
An answering voice be found.

10. But if thou perseverest,
Thou shalt deliverance find.
Behold, all unexpected
He will thy soul unbind
And from the heavy burden
Thy heart will soon set free;
And thou wilt see the blessing
He had in mind for thee.

11. O faithful child of heaven,
How blessed shalt thou be!
With songs of glad thanksgiving
A crown awaiteth thee.
Into thy hand thy Maker
Will give the victor's palm.
And thou to thy Deliverer
Shalt sing a joyous psalm.

12. Give, Lord, this consummation
To all our heart's distress;
Our hands, our feet, e'er strengthen,
In death our spirits bless.
Thy truth and Thy protection
Grant evermore, we pray,
And in celestial glory
Shall end our destined way.

Hymn #520
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Ps. 37: 5
Author: Paul Gerhardt, 1656
Translated by: composite
Titled: Befiehl du deine Wege
Composer: Hans L. Hassler, 1601
Tune: Herzlich tut mich


Save Yourself - I Don't Have Long To Live

Synod kitteh has last words for  his fambly.

Schullers Quit Board of the Crystal Cathedral.
Will Move to The Plywood Palace.
May All Shrinkers Do the Same

Come down and fight like a man.



GARDEN GROVE, California (AP) — The Crystal Cathedral is getting a new name and the congregation of the financially struggling Orange County megachurch will relocate, its senior pastor announced Sunday.
The ministry will be renamed Hope Center of Christ, Sheila Schuller Coleman said in a short video posted on the Crystal Cathedral website.
An announcement regarding the new location will be made in the next few weeks, she said.
The church sold its iconic glass-paned cathedral to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange last month to emerge from federal bankruptcy protection.
"We're going to need a new home sooner than we thought. And we're moving full speed ahead," the pastor said.
She gave no indication whether or not the congregation would remain in Orange County, the ministry's home since its founding by the pastor's father, Dr. Robert Schuller, at a drive-in movie theater 42 years ago.
Robert Schuller retired in 2006 after seeing the ministry evolve into a global televangelist empire.
On Saturday he and his wife, Arvella, announced they were stepping down from the Crystal Cathedral board of directors. The couple cited a breakdown in negotiations over financial claims against the church as part of the bankruptcy proceedings.
Robert Schuller's attorney, Carl Grumer, said Saturday the pastor's future role with the ministry was "up in the air."
Calls to a Crystal Cathedral spokesman over the weekend were not immediately returned.
The church raked in millions in donations through its "Hour of Power" broadcasts, but a series of financial setbacks led to the megachurch's filing for bankruptcy in October 2010 and the forced sale of its 40-acre (16-hectare) campus.
Turmoil in the ministry included the firings of Schuller's daughter Gretchen Penner and two sons-in-law last week.

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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Schullers Quit Board of the Crystal Cathedral. Wil...":

Evidently Schuller had already given up title to his old "drive-in" style church since it is called the Garden Grove Community Church. However, it was on the same campus as his Crystal Cathedral. Now being divested of everything like that must be painful for him.

Also, the board seems to have cleared house of all the Schullers since they fired his daughter and two sons-in-law who were producing the TV show Hour of Power. Of course, they are all millionaires by now so they won't be hurting too much. They are revamping the Hour of Power so it won't go off the air:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/traderchris/4140647724/

Garden Grove Community Church
Garden Grove, California, 4-29-07. This was a "drive-in church," designed by Richard Neutra for Rev. Robert Schuller.

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/usa/crystal-cathedral

Aerial view of the Crystal Cathedral complex, showing the star-shaped plan and the old drive-in church to the south.

http://www.kcbi.org/news/kcbi-news/crystal-cathedral-firings

California's Orange County Register reports that the church's board voted to oust the Rev. Robert H. Schuller's daughter and two sons-in-law along with five other people.

Gretchen Schuller Penner
http://www.facebook.com/gretchen.penner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Schuller

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Schullers Quit Board of the Crystal Cathedral. Wil...":

The Crystal Cathedral is certainly not the only church property in trouble:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/09/us-usa-housing-churches-idUSBRE82803120120309

Luther Rocks: The Nuts and Bolts of Forgiveness



Luther Rocks: The Nuts and Bolts of Forgiveness:


The Nuts and Bolts of Forgiveness

Andrew Preus is a new blogger on The Brothers of John the Steadfast.  His three posts have been in regards to justification.  They have created quite a fervor with many folks commenting on the pitfalls of terminology used to describe the doctrines of Objective and Subjective Justification.  Ironic that his grandfather wrote a superb book called "Justification and Rome" that should have ended all discussion.

More at the link...


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