Tim Glende, Paul McCain, Jon Buchholz - Bosom Buddies Through UOJ

Tim and Katy - bosom buddies.
Tim is bronzer buddies with Snookie.
I made this Photoshop really obvious, because the Taj Mahal has policies
about who can pose there.

Paul McCain is bosom buddies with
WELS DP Jon Buchholz.

Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Bedfellows of Apostasy - Paul McCain, FB Friends w...":

Ichabod -

I think that you are correct in saying that the recent turn of events vis-a-vis the WELS suspension, showcases "a clear confession of their confusion," of those universal objective justification fanatics, such as McCain.

The sad part about McCain, though, is that he is seducing others to join his McCaininite deviltry.

Nathan M. Bickel

www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org 

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GJ - UOJ unites people through their common hatred of the New Testament Gospel, but that does not unite them in other ways.

McCain and Otten worked together covertly to elect Al Barry, and they love UOJ, but they loathe one another now.

McCain supposedly hates the Church Growth Movement, as my letter from him claims from many years ago, but he is blogging buddies with Tim Glende, who engages in outright plagiarism in his Groeschel-cloning congregation.

Both of them love, love, love UOJ - so Paul McCain has blogged with Glende. So heart-warming.

Here is Paul calling for Tim - "Dinner is served!"

Being Read at the Moment - Don't Know Why - Lots of Laughs

Shaking, sweating, rapid-fire speech, 

Anonymous said...
I know this comment doesn't fit under this thread but this is really too ironic not to mention. Mr. Jackson has detailed on his blog how great it is that the St. Andrew's Waunakee campus is closing and how it is evidence of God's judgement. ("God will not be mocked." by AC V) Mr. Jackson only gets 15 people from around the world to watch his service online. Yet he views a satellite campus ministering to a specific community with low attendance as evidence of God's judgement and a source of mockery. Which is it Mr. Jackson? Are numbers evidence of God's judgement or not?

I'm guessing your answer is the same as always. It's OK to do whatever you want as long as it fits your distorted view of God's Word.

I'm guessing it's too late for Mr. Jackson but hopefully some of his few followers will see what a danger it is to mock a ministry for a lack of growth.

March 15, 2012 3:48 PM

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GJ - I enjoyed posting the Randy Hunter pages, before they disappear faster than a Glende blog or Kilcrease comment. This blog has a strange effect on other websites, making pages vanish faster than Rick Johnson's offering figures - not to mention his veneration of Leonard Sweet.

If I may repeat myself, the posts came from the urging of WELS members and pastors. They know they can deal with issues safely here. When they obey orders to talk to pastors about false doctrine and lupine practices, they are excommunicated. Ask the Kokomomo families, Rick Techlin, and the Krohn family.

Here are some self-justifications from the flop-sweat Church and Change team.

Look at the staff at the dual single parish:
Randy Hunter - Pastor
Kristen Koepsell - Minister of Worship
David Hochmuth - Minister of Spiritual Growth
Elton Stroh - Pastor/Crossroads Consulting
Newlin Schafer - Pastor

Five people could not do all the work! It was wearing them out:

• ordering the coffee and filters, 
• plumping up the couch cushions, 
• debating which false teacher to plagiarize for the next sermon,
• applying for more loot from Thrivent, Schwan, the synod, and the ladies' groups.

They did not bear their cross patiently.

Once again, I have to ask - how much money was wasted on the coffee and lounger fad before they took their initial group of 50 people down to 25?

I really thought Elton Stroh would turn them around. He is the turnaround specialist. He even posted what might happen (with his help), inventing charts that made blinded eyes sparkle and larcenous hearts thump.

Team Glende really misses the point. We began Internet services for members, at their request. It cost a donated $100 camera, available broadband, and a better computer.

I saw a figure at Ustream that thousands of views had been enjoyed already. I am not sure if that means all the people reading the files or all the views live. It does not matter, because we are still operating and not closing anything down. In fact, more publishing is already in the works.

The printed sermons are published many ways:

1. Two blogs.
2. Various Facebook pages.
3. Twitter.
4. Via email from members to their friends.
5. Printed and shared by members with others. 

A normal page-read day is about 2,000 for one blog alone. I do not think the Latte Church ever held 2,000+ households. The newsletter says 25 people at its inglorious end.

I am not sure what the other figures are. I hear from various people. One couple in Virginia uses the sermon each Sunday. They do not use Ustream, but they read the sermon along with other orthodox Lutheran material. I only know this because the Virginia couple wrote to me about this. They asked me to get the sermon done faster so it would be ready for them, Eastern Liberal Time.

But the numbers do not matter. This tiny congregation serves others without synod subsidies, Thrivent groups, or foundation loot.

Randy Hunter and his band of clowns were not faithful stewards of the mysteries of God. That matters.


KJV 1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the
mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. 6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

One day Hunter may appreciate the irony of posting this on his congregational website.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Closed Latte Church Fan Shows Signs of Over-Caffei...":

they took their initial group of 50 people down to 25

They probably counted the six-piece band, plus Hunter even though he was only a prerecorded apparition on a PP screen.

From the St. Andrew newsletter: "Could we have tried other strategies and done more? Of course, but that's true of all endeavors."

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for in-house Crossroads Consulting, is it?

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Closed Latte Church Fan Shows Signs of Over-Caffei...":

The mockery is of the hypocrisy of an organization such as Crossroads Consulting that promises "growth" and yet even it - an in-house ministry with the chief architect consultant Elton Stroh - can't save the Waunakee "ministry."

The mockery is of WELS FiCl that highlights this ministry as cutting edge and "outside the box" thinking that every fuddy-duddy WELS congregation ought to be doing.

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LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Closed Latte Church Fan Shows Signs of Over-Caffei...":

I hope that's not his boat...

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GJ - Old Northwestern College meme, "That's not a booooat. That's a ship."

Sola Fide Has Been Bad - Not Allowed To Post on LutherQuest (sic)

solafide (http://solafide.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Exegetes Unite - Abraham Is the Common Theme in Ju...":

Given their own definitions:
Objective Justification = Christ died for ALL SIN.

Subjective Justification = Christ died FOR YOUR SIN.

If Christ "died for ALL SIN" did not happen, then how do you know that Christ died FOR YOUR SIN.

I am wondering how the UOJ'ers reconcile the fact that Abraham was justified for his faith alone, BEFORE the Objective Justification they so love happened at Calvary.

Simple answer: They can't. They ignore it.

As a note to Brett Meyer, since I am not allowed to post on LutherQuest:

This is from a WELS Professor, who will remain nameless for his own protection:
"the "all" in Ro 3:23 is not all people, believers and unbelievers alike, but all the believers who were just mentioned in verse 22."

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GJ -

Faith/believe times five - not all times two. This is one of many classic justification by faith passages in the Bible. Only a doofus could turn it into UOJ - but there is a boundless supply of doofi.

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KJV Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


The red all is not in the text and is not even found in the old NIV.

Romans 3:22-28

New New International Version (NIV)

²² This righteousness is given through faith in^[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, ²³ for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, ²⁴ and all [sic] are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. ²⁵ God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,^[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— ²⁶ he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. ²⁷ Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. ²⁸ For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

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The edition of the second all, the red all, is proof that the UOJ position is wrong and deceitful. The unionists who produced the old NIV were not content to eliminate the sacraments from the New Testament. They had to turn justification by faith into Universalism. The second all delivers the text into  the hands of the Pharisees.

By clamoring for the New NIV, the Mequon faculty has revealed its identification with National Council of Churches/World Council of Churches thinking - "Why can't we all simply disbelieve together?" And they do. 

Sola - the Abraham problem is a reason why the UOJ Hive never ventures beyond their shallow talking-points. They cannot harmonize the Catechism with their nonsense. To see the Scriptures as a whole, which we must do, is impossible for them.

If WELS is forced to back down from the NNIV, they will still propagandize for it at Mequon, until they get what they want. 

Wendland smuggled UOJ into his brain-washing sessions, titled Justification by Faith.
Typical UOJ misdirection of the mind.

Bedfellows of Apostasy - Paul McCain, FB Friends with DP Jon Buchholz. The Editor Cannot Spell.

WELS DP Jon Buchholz is Facebook friends with McCain.

Paul T. McCain

2 hours ago

Lutheran Pastor Suspended.

It doesn't happen often, maybe, some would say, not often enough, but it was encouraging to me to learn that the Wisconsin Synod has suspended from its ministry one of its pastors, Paul Rydeki (sic), who denies the teaching that on the cross God paid for and forgave the sins of the world.

Yes, you read that right. I know, it's crazy, isn't it? How could any Lutheran pastor d

eny what Scripture teaches so clearly?

Pastor Rydeki 

(sic) was asked two simple questions and failed to answer yes to each:

1) “Did God forgive the sins of the world when Jesus died on the cross?”

2) “Has God justified all sinners for the sake of Christ?”

God has acted, very objectively, in Christ to forgive and justify the entire world through the death of Jesus. Each individual receives this gift of forgiveness and justification, subjectively, through the blessed means of grace. It's just that beautiful a truth and that simple.

Kudos to the WELS.

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GJ - McNasty is infamous in all synods. At least this is making apostates give a clear confession of their confusion.

McCain's Roman Catholic expert, Jack Kilcrease, thinks the Book of Concord is primitive.

A feckless captain ran the Concordia onto shoals, because he was showing off.
Concordia Publishing House has the same kind of leadership.

Paul T. McCain Pastor Webber: Thank you for your extremely important comment, clarifying the flat-out lies and distortion being used by Rydeki (sic) and his supporters to try to bolster his position. Let us all pray he repents of his sinful rejection of Biblical truth.

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GJ - Let us pray that McCain learns how to spell the names of the people he denounces with Satanic glee.

In McCain's world of rationalistic Pietism,
babies are born already justified, forgiven, absolved.
Why do we baptize the little saints?
Naturally, McCain lied about Rydecki, who
never denied the Atonement.

WELS DiPs - They Are Smokin'

Daryl Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Graphic Explains the the Wisdom of UOJ":

One of my favorite TV shows as a kid was "CHiPs", about Jon and Ponch, a pair of California Highway Patrolmen cruising the freeways of SoCal on their KZ1000 police cruisers, helping out stranded motorists and catching the bad guys. Despite the disco-themed music, the opening credit sequence is still one of the coolest I've seen, with the tight shots of the hand on the throttle, the foot on the shift lever, the badge, the holstered gun, and the C, H, and P coming off the emblem on the gas tank to spell out the show's title.

Along these lines, the WELS has produced a new video series called "DiPs", about a pair of district presidents running around the synod, putting out all the doctrinal fires and burning all the JBFA heretics at the stake. It'll help to fill that awkward ten minutes of dead time on those Sundays when the "WELS Connection" isn't shown.

Has any Church and Changer been disciplined for anything?

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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Exegetes Unite - Abraham Is the Common Theme in Ju...":

Ichabod -

In reference to one of your multiple pics - the one where Luther comments on Galatians 2:15-16 towards the beginning of this posting:

I recall not too long ago sitting in a Christmas Eve children's service (in my own WELS church) and listening to the WELS pastor's address. In essence, it was thematic of universal objective justification. He only talked how Christ was God's gift "to us." His only “message card” was Christ and the forgiveness He came to offer. The pastor apparently left all the other Scripture “cards” in his closed Bible.

I find that this type of irresponsible preaching is missing wonderful opportunities. Mixed Christian and non-Christian crowds such as a children's service which brings non-church heathen family members into the church sanctuary, are the same occasions which present their presence at funerals. Not preaching the whole counsel of God with sin and all its offensive severity and damning consequences to these mixed audiences, is not preaching the [whole] Gospel at all! If Christ saves to the uttermost [and, He does]; He saves from hell and damnation. Hence, Lutheran parish preachers should never shun the preaching to sinners: "Repent of your sins and believe the Gospel"

But, sadly and pathetically, so - Christian preachers will refuse to do that. Why? Because they have cast the Holy Spirit aside and think that they know better. Hence, they attempt to provide for the sinners in their congregation mix, a cheap Gospel. That cheap Gospel is readily found in universal objective justification, such as the "Christian" denomination of the WELS. Such a cheap gospel is the lazy preachers' "Gospel."

"Cheap Grace is a Worthless Substitute for a Faith That Saves:"

http://www.thechristianmessage.org/2012/06/cheap-grace-is-worthless-substitute-for.html

Nathan M. Bickel - pastor emeritus
Bay city, Michigan - WELS Bethel Lutheran member

www.thechristianmessage.org

www.moralmatters.org

Exegetes Unite - Abraham Is the Common Theme in Justification

Justification by faith in Romans and Galatians has a common theme - Abraham, based on Genesis 15.

KJV Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and He counted it to him for righteousness.

Believing and counting [imputing] for righteousness are united in this passage, and Paul uses this bedrock passage for justification by faith, with these words - imputing and believing.

In the Kregel Galatians Commentary, by Luther, the statements referring to Abraham seem endless. I will post some of them.

There is another anchor - Jesus addressing the religious opponents in John 8. The opponents yell, "We have Walther for a father." [Jackson New Living International Paraphrase]

KJV John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

This is another reference to Abraham's justification by faith. As Luther taught, Old Testament justification by faith is no different from New Testament justification by faith.

What is common in all these places? Abraham believed and was declared righteous. Abraham was justified by faith. This is simple. The Gospel Promises create faith through the work of the Holy Spirit in the Word. Through faith, the believer receives what is promised by the Word, earned by the atonement.

But the Law-Mongers of today, who use Walther to set aside Luther, Paul, and Christ Himself, do more than ignore this. Justification by faith moves them to fury. They threaten, accuse, and silence. Trinity in Bridgeport, Missouri told Herman Otten that they would give no more money to Christian News if the editor continued to publish my articles.

What stirs up the wrath of Jon Buchholz, the Sausage Factory, Tim Glende, Jack Cascione, and Paul McCain? Justification by faith.

WELS tolerates any false doctrine - promotes it, publishes it, funds it, defends it. But the Biblical, Lutheran doctrine of justification by faith? - They march in to smash it, to threaten, silence, and excommunicate. More than they - they doggedly divide family and friends, congregations and pastors - all for the love of universal forgiveness without faith.

Repeating the Talking Points on UOJ

The Dresden of the 1820s is the America of today - in one respect. The abuse practiced by Pastor Martin Stephan is well established today among the SynCon Lutherans - and it has multiplied.

LutherQuest (sic) has two long threads based on the assumption that universal forgiveness without faith is the message of the Reformation, the Gospel itself.

Therefore, one theme is "WELS Defends OJ." District President Jon Buchholz and his finger-puppets (the officers of the tiny district) decided to accuse Pastor Paul Rydecki of false doctrine for teaching justification by faith. They should just admit to the public, "We hate Luther's doctrine. We disagree with the Apostle Paul. We reject justification by faith."

The second thread is on Romans 4:25. Be sure to avoid Romans 4:24, boys. The trouble with Romans 4:24 is that it ruins the colossal pile of dung you have heaped up in support of  your imaginary Easter absolution - straight from Calvinist Samuel Huber and that brilliant Halle Pietist Rambach.

By all means, LutherQuest (sic) - ignore the whole point of Romans 4, its harmony with the Means of Grace in Romans 10, and the Pauline arguments for justification by faith in Galatians. The point of Romans 4? I am so glad you asked. The entire chapter is about Abraham as the father of faith, the example of a man justified by faith alone. And not just Abraham. Wait for it.

KJV Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

I have to highlight, because the dullards who keep repeating UOJ cannot comprehend simple English.

These champions of grace really hate grace. Forgiveness can only come about through grace - I am sure everyone agrees about that. No grace, no forgiveness. Am I getting too far from the topic? I think not.

So let look for a clear passage where Paul teaches how we receive grace -

KJV Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

There it is - access to grace through faith, combined with justification by faith and peace with God. But these nit-pickers* comb through the Scriptures and isolate a few words they can use to overturn the Gospel. Mostly they repeat genius statements from the Roman Catholic theologian Edward Preuss. They use their own logic, which is not too good anyway, and ignore the revelation of the Holy Spirit.

*Sorry for the pun, Martin Luther College. That the WELS school where students run screaming away when they hear there will be a LICE SEE'UM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nit

Please Do Not Read This Post about Stephan and Walther. Zion's Author Explains Too Much about Synodical Conference Abuse

It requires unusual credulity to think that Stephan attained the position he did against his wishes. On the contrary only people who were subservient to Stephan succeeded in getting along with him. At least all the people who were allowed to advance to the Stephanite hierarchy and to play important roles stood in an intimate relationship of this kind to him....

In the eyes of his followers Stephan became the champion of orthodoxy, the defender of the faith. They firmly asserted that the means of grace were dependent upon his person and that, if he were silenced, the Lutheran Church would cease to exist in Saxony. Stephan’s doctrine was unerringly true, his solution of a question inevitably correct.

Walter Forster, Zion on the Mississippi, Chapter Three, Transformation of Stephanism into Separatism, 1953, p. 63.

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Forster's book has 90-95% of the information to show that the Stephanite migration came to America as an abusive personality cult built around an adulterous leader. 

The recent Church Growth Movement in the ELS-LCMS-WELS is consistent with the style and character of the Stephanite group. 

Martin Stephan was a Pietist by training (Halle University), by birthright (Bohemian), by ministry (a congregation established for Bohemian Pietists), and by profession (cell group leader for the Walther circle and the Dresden congregation).

Cell group leaders often exert dictatorial control over their subordinates, and Stephan was no exception.

"Stephan's domination was not only accepted, but even welcomed by many of his docile converts." Zion, p. 65.

As I wrote before, the Walther circle's previous guru was Johann Gottlieb Kuehn -  a severe and demanding cell group leader, a specialist in mortifying the flesh. In fact, he died a year into his first call, passing the leadership onto Stephan. The domineering style of both gurus cemented the clergy. They were the guard dogs of Animal Farm, always eager to protect their master from any and all criticism. The Walther circle saw no wrong in Stephan, only threats against their master.

The chosen followers got to enjoy all-night parties with Stephan, organized away from the church property, and always billed as cell group gatherings. The police were not so sure, since the congregation itself had permission to sponsor conventicles on the property, but not at inns and hotels, where Stephan would appear with a young lady in the wee hours of the night, after a walk with her in the woods. Zion, p. 67.

Stephan was blatantly immoral, with Louis Guenther as his primary bedmate. The urge to escape to America grew with the investigations of Stephan over his repeated associations with young women, his meetings with them and other followers in the middle of the night, when he took walks to relieve the symptoms of his syphilis. He lived with Guenther at the spa where he was treated for syphilis, but he had no time for his wife, whom he blamed for all his troubles. Walther echoed the slander against Mrs. Stephan.

Investigations of Stephan grew to the point of house arrest, just before the Stephanite group left for America.  

The adultery continued on the ship and in St. Louis, so there was no surprise confession. Instead, there was an obvious outbreak of venereal disease, which sparked the mob action carefully organized by Walther.

What are the results today? The Synodical Conference leaders:

• Cover-up the sexual abuse of their staffers and church worker friends.
• Assume dictatorial powers in the Name of Walther, Amen.
• Promote cell groups came back in the name of Church Growth.
• Market Pietism as Lutheran Orthodoxy.
• Make a show of shunning all others as outside the Kingdom, even though they all work with one another and with ELCA.