Ripped from the Pages of Rogue Lutheran:
CW-This comment came in today, yes there is life after Missouri and things are looking brighter all the time-- a person just has to move out of the dead cell church zone and into the ‘truth zone”.
Thank you Ms Schleuter for dropping by, you made my day. :)
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INGRID@VCYAMERICA.ORG
I certainly did make those phone calls. I am not in the habit of lying to listeners as a believer in Jesus Christ. The phone records from my telephone will bear it out.
Even after the radio program I have yet to hear from anyone. As a member of the LCMS, I am appalled that we have an apparently papal system so far above laity concerns that they can be utterly ignored. Our family is leaving the LCMS, because we are seeing leadership that is behaving in a manner that is contrary to the Word of God. The Shack promotion at our church was just one example. (13 separate heresies in that novel.)
Even New Agers have returned my phone calls professionally. I have done programming on these issues for 22 years. Not only is Rev. Wille's policy of ignoring those with concerns unprofessional, it is the behavior of a non-believer to show such a lack of Christian love and concern for the flock. That is why we are out the door.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 02:59 PM
The Transforming Church Network (TCN or C&C,WELS) is designed to make spiritual paraplegics out of Lutherans as individuals and as congregations.
What is not clearly understood in the Lutheran community is that this problem TCN or C&C is not confined to just the Lutheran circles. The recurring pattern is that people of faith and denomination or sect that hold to their doctrinal statements or Sola Scriptura are uniformly being harassed and molested by the Leadership/Fuller Network and their flunkies.
The adoption of New Age Emergent doctrine makes a person dumb, helpless and indecisive—the group is valued over God and Scripture designed to take down independent thinkers called “Lone Ranger” Christians (Rick Warren on CD).
Case study: Rev. Wille, Emergent Lutheran DP from the SWD
Rev. Wille is a bit player in the transformational church script.
Transformational pastors have been going through the same transformation process that they require of members, only they do it off site. They have participated in conferences and associations outside the faith and had their heads re-wired and then brought those defective ideas home with them and evangelized the intentional Lutheran deformation currently underway.
Most people engaging in the process are honest and decent (best construction and all, emote eyeroll) but they are flunkies for Fuller anyway.
PR disaster: Wille got caught trafficking in apostasy (Sweet), by an astute Lutheran lady (Ingrid Schleuter) with national influence.
In the commercial world, when a PR disaster occurs the best companies get a spokesman out front immediately and attempt to diffuse the situation while they work on solving the problem. It is the right thing to do—extend acknowledgement and courtesy to the customer while you attempt to fix the problem. Really astute corporations even try to compensate the injured party for his inconvenience.
In the corporate world a good brand identity is quantifiable and stated as an asset on a financial statement labeled Goodwill. A pastor should not have to know that because morals supersede business ethics, or they should, which makes ethics a moot point since we are not addressing behavior in a corporate environment that has lower standards. I only bring that up because they must have busted up shoulder blades from patting themselves on the back for all their business acumen. Legends in their own minds.......
DP Wille has a situation on his hands, he smeared himself and the LCMS; Ingrid Schleuter called him out on it. .
Three views on what is happening in the SWD
1. Wille’s lack of response makes the situation appear he is so dull as to not even be aware of it.
2. It would also appear Wille knows exactly what the problem is and he got caught doing something dishonest, he’s off script and cannot make a move until he checks with his handlers from the Leadership network.
3. DP Wille is so used to interacting with the coterie of transformational types (the real but unofficial accountability group) he doesn’t even relate to his official group, the orthodox body of LCMS.
DP Wille and others with transformation underpinnings cannot even perform at minimal private sector ethical standards let alone morals. If DP cannot take a phone call over two week period and give a coherent explanation of a decision that he made to invite Dr. Sweet to address a group of educators for an all day seminar, he is not fulfilling his obligations.
When you or members of your staff have been accused of lying, an explanation is required. You do not put a surrogate out front and silence is an admission of guilt.
One would expect a Lutheran of executive status could do better than what has occurred. When failure to comply with even the minimum standards of appropriate conduct outside the faith community manifests itself, how much worse does it look for a DP to function like a child hiding under his desk hoping no one will notice he got caught trafficking in apostasy?
DP Wille is a casualty of Emergent Mind Transformation and small group dynamics. This process transforms an individual into a spiritual paraplegic and a captive to the other belief system: can’t think, can’t act without a group consensus or the personal coach handler. I guess he couldn’t get Stetzer on the phone.
No wonder people are leaving in droves. LCMS Goodwill is depleted.
DP Gilbert operates like Wille only he uses surrogates as a human shield and cannot pick up a phone either-- except when he’s probably ragging on Pastor Rossow, the designated NID whipping boy.
GJ - This is what one person is doing on a blog, not to mention her friend on radio. There are many ways to get the word out. I will quote what a veteran Lutheran warrior said - another woman:
"Amen to Ichabod's lament, "Where were you when Lutherans Suffered from Apostasy?" That question has existed unanswered in the mind of this writer for nearly half a century since voluntarily leaving LCMS in 1964 when it became impossible to invite others for fear of what influence some youth activities they might encounter, inability to explain why a local LCMS pastor remained in good standing even though his name was listed by the California Subversive Activities Committee as supporting the Committee to Insure Justice for Morton Sobel (communist), etc. Then involuntarily leaving WELS in 1977 when calling attention to the obvious that change agents were actively working long before they came out with a name, Church and Change. Some may not have even been born yet, but other laypersons were there. A few privately expressed agreement, but as one said to his writer, "You are right, but I have to have a church". Fast forward, 2010.
