Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Church and Changers - Small Potatoes":
Brian states, It's my personal opinion that Pastor Jeske isn't afraid of letting go of "control."
Based on what? Isn't it Pastor Jeske himself who willingly went through the process of becoming a Responsible Service Organization of the LCMS while still a member and listed as clergy of the (W)ELS? He purposefully broke fellowship with the (W)ELS in receiving RSO status with the LCMS in which he must submit to LCMS doctrine and practice. If that is not precise and exercised control then what is?
One example is the false doctrine and practice that is exercised in precise precision by the abhorent Church and Change group who are working to abolish and undermine the Lutheran Confessions and usher in the New Age Emergent religion into all (W)ELS churches.
http://ceo-ministries.com/home/brian-arthur-and-tracey-lampe-will-present-re-thinking-youth-ministry-at-the-2009-church-change-conference-regaining-momentum/
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GJ - Arrogance breeds arrogance, but the Conference of Pussycats is working on it:
"The Time of Grace board has stated that the LC-MS has given them exemptions from the things that are required of other RSOs. They have not yet produced any documentation showing that. They ask that those who have concerns about their RSO status to contact them. The SEW District Praesidium continues to work with TOG to resolve the issue."
"Q: Should staff ministry always involve the use of the Means of Grace? Are some situations more aptly described as Christian vocation than staff ministry? We need to clarify what staff ministry is so that it is understood my (sic) all."
October, 2010 meeting.
I am going to go way out on a limb and quote this for Rev. Brian:
Article XIV: Of Ecclesiastical Order.
Of Ecclesiastical Order they teach that no one should publicly teach in the Church or administer the Sacraments unless he be regularly called. (Augsburg Confession)
When WELS and Missouri began spoiling the Egyptians at Fuller Seminary and Willow Creek, they adopted the anti-Confessional attitude of their favorite school.
When Brother Bob or Sister Brunhilda get the urge to preach, they tell everyone God has called them, so others lay hands on them and call them Rev. An education means nothing when the Holy Spirit calls directly. Spelling does not count. The church organization has no business getting involved.
District VP Kuske played this game with Stolzenburg, who was removed from the ministry for cause and ineligible for a call in the LCMS. He and Zehms were allowed to play the role of pastors. Zehms--now with Jeske--told a meeting of LPR that no one had any say over what he and Floyd did, because "we are called directly by the Holy Spirit."
"The COP discussed the group calling themselves Intrepid Lutherans. A number of concerns were expressed."
