Episcopal Clergy in Los Angeles
Friday, December 04, 2009
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RIVERSIDE, Calif. — Clergy and laypeople voting to replace two retiring assistant bishops in the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles will choose Friday from a pool that includes two openly gay candidates.
The selection of one or both of the gay candidates at the diocese's annual convention would mark the first election of a bishop in a same-sex relationship since Bishop V. Gene Robinson was chosen in New Hampshire in 2003. Robinson lives with his longtime male partner.
Robinson's win six years ago led dozens of conservative parishes and four dioceses to vote to leave the 2.1-million member U.S. denomination and pushed the 77 million-member Anglican fellowship to the brink of schism.
There are six candidates in this week's election, including the Rev. John L. Kirkley of San Francisco and the Rev. Canon Mary D. Glasspool of Baltimore, who are openly gay.
It is hard to know, however, what further impact the selection of a second gay bishop would have on the faith.
The majority of Anglicans outside the United States are theological conservatives.
Within the United States, breakaway traditionalists have formed the Anglican Church in North America as a rival to the Episcopal Church.
Episcopalians have made clear to the rest of the Anglican family that they will not roll back their support for same-sex couples.
Last July, the Episcopal General Convention, the church's top policy-making body, effectively lifted a moratorium on electing another gay bishop. The temporary ban had been requested by Anglican leaders seeking to prevent a permanent break in the communion.
The Los Angeles diocese has 70,000 members and covers six Southern California counties.
Most of the candidates have viewed and approved the "Party in the MLC" video.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
How do we know that most of them have seen and approved Party in the MLC?
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GJ - Because the candidates are gay, Mr. Leyrer.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
So... you have no real real proof that they have seen and approved it? You're just assuming they did?
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GJ - I added that line to the actual story, to prank the humorless defenders of "Party in the MLC," similar to installing the gaydar dish on Old Main at Martin Luther College.
I got the idea about adding the sentence from people who accused me of making up the fact that Jeske preached at a joint service with the LCMS. Even though the link was embedded in the article I quoted verbatim, some accused me of making up one sentence because they did not find it in another source, which I never mentioned or linked.
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dk has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
Dr. Jackson is a called and ordained Pastor, a theologian, and by all appearances, a very knowledgeable gardener. (I read his book but haven't seen his garden)
Beyond that, Dr. Jackson is an honest man. He hasn't hidden anything about himself and his thoughts--he hasn't attempted to hide his dismay and anger at the 'teachers' who falsely represent God's Truth. Of course someone should be angry at false teachers.(and he's pretty good with satire too)
If you invest the time it takes to LEARN, and read what he's written, you will find that his argument against Objective Justification is solid--
the idea the God justifies anyone, without the Means of Grace, before faith, is completely unScriptural.
Jackson bears witness to the truth by proclaiming over and over: (paraphrase) The Means of Grace are called the Means of Grace because they are the means by which grace comes to a person: The Word and Sacrament are solely responsible for creating faith in the heart of a person, and faith justifies.
Professor (Dr.) (Pastor) Jackson deserves your respect for the hard work he's done. If you doubt Jackson's orthodoxy, honor him AND yourself by arguing with Scripture and the Confessions. You may learn something.
Do the work. If he's wrong, rebut. But if you won't do the work it might be a better use of your time to read Daily Kos.
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I. J. Reilly has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
Mr.Jackson may be ordained, but he is not currently called... unless he called himself like he gives communion to himself.
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GJ - Reilly (fake name) has spoken with the wisdom of WELS, where they "ordain" teachers and "call" kindergarten teachers. Does he know me or my situation? No, but that never stops the Chicaneries from beating their gums. They do not trust the Word of God, but they want everyone to listen with bated breath while they explain the word of man.
I was called to serve Bethany a long time ago, and that has been continuous since that time, 1998. I would like to see the Shrinkers start a congregation without synodical support, multi-million dollar loans, Thrivent grants, foundation loot, and special consultants.
Ah, that is where we have gained the upper hand. Without failed pastors to advise us, our little flock has broadcast the Word around the world. Our overhead is low. Didja ever hear of tent-making, Fake Reilly? I read about it in Shakespeare or the Bible. I would love to see one Chicanery working a real job and preaching twice a week during Advent and Lent.
Ski has spent well over $250,000 and has empty time sheets in all categories, including his quarterly blog offerings. But he goes to more Schwaermer conferences than his mentor, Andy Stanley. But all is not lost. I hear the Fox Valley pastors are fed up with the spreading cancer there. Stay tuned.
Doebler has one web page, after getting a $20,000 grant from Antioch. How much for a second web page? Or maybe there is a back door? Whatcha hiding?
Randy Hunter has a woman pastor working for him, according to the Book of Concord definition. Is the ELS upset? Is his WELS district? Is anyone?
Being legitimate in the eyes of a man-made synod does not equal being faithful in the Word and Confessions.
How many Reformed groups require their mission people to teach the Biblical Means of Grace? Zero. But how many "conservative" Lutheran synods demand that their mission people teach Enthusiasm? All of them.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
Anonymous at 8:43pm,
"As Staff Minister of Worship, Kristen is responsible for planning and implementing all worship opportunities at St. Andrew."
http://www.st-andrew-online.org/site/cpage.asp?cpage_id=5563&sec_id=2361
Kristen is a Pastor having received and accepted a divine call to serve in the WELS' St. Andrew Lutheran Church as Minister of Worship.
Here she is listed as Minister of Worship. http://www.st-andrew-online.org/site/cpage.asp?sec_id=2361&cpage_id=5431#Staff
Definition of Minister
noun 1. a person authorized to conduct religious worship; member of the clergy; pastor.
2. a person authorized to administer sacraments, as at Mass.
3. a person appointed by or under the authority of a sovereign or head of a government to some high office of state, esp. to that of head of an administrative department: the minister of finance.
4. a diplomatic representative accredited by one government to another and ranking next below an ambassador. Compare envoy 1 (def. 1).
5. a person acting as the agent or instrument of another.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/minister
It's a false claim to say that Kristen is not a Pastor.
History of St. Andrew
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| Pastor Randy Hunter |
| Minister of Worship, Kristen Koepsell |
| Minister of Spiritual Growth, David Hochmuth |
| Vicar, Alex Groth |
| Elders |
| Leaders |
“The best part of my job is knowing that my work directly impacts the spiritual lives of those who worship here and enables them to connect with God. I say this with a full and complete understanding (and appreciation!) of the fact that the actual work is done by the Holy Spirit through the means of grace – but it is a great privilege and a great joy to be an instrument in ‘administering God’s grace’ in the form of worship gatherings."
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Episcopal Candidates for Bishop Love "Party in the...":
Does this lady help with communion?
It is not permitted or Scriptural! Tell me what I am reading ain't so.
President Schroeder, We have a problem!!! Somebody fix it. This is where my part ends, cause women can't usurp athority.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
Does this lady help with communion?
It is not permitted or Scriptural! Tell me what I am reading ain't so.
President Schroeder, We have a problem!!! Somebody fix it. This is where my part ends, cause women can't usurp athority.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
