Wednesday, July 24, 2019

Cascione Thinks His Eructations Deserve a Response


Email from David Becker to Otten, RIP, Cascione, and "Father" Steve Spencer, WELS:

FYI, I don't think it was the greatest response in the world but Dr. Greg Jackson DID respond on July 13 to Pastor Jack Cascione's review of his latest book.  The response is below.  I personally don't think it's essential to reprint.  I summarized Dr. Jackson's main points in what you printed in the 7-29-19 CN, p. 7. 
Dr. Jackson also covered similar ground in a number of new blog posts.  I figure anyone truly interested can find those responses or obtain a copy of Dr. Jackson's book.
But Dr. Jackson did respond, and so the statement "Waiting for Jackson's Reply," 7-29-19 CN, p. 4, may not have been correct.



https://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2019/07/jack-b-simple-cascione-and-his-lady.html
Saturday, July 13, 2019

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July 29 Christian News

Waiting for Jackson’s Reply It is has been three weeks since the review of Dr. Gregory Jackson’s “The Path to Understanding Justification” by Jack Cascione was sent to Jackson. Jackson has complained about the review on his blog called Ichabod, but he has not posted nor written any response dealing with the issues Cascione has raised about his book. Cascione’s comparison of Jackson’s position to R. C. Sproul illustrates that Jackson is no longer Lutheran, but has adopted a Reformed reposition (sic) on Election. In fact, Sproul gives a stronger case for Jackson’s views than Jackson.  
Jack B. Simple Cascione and His Lady Scholars versus the KJV Scriptures, the Original Text, Luther, and the Book of Concord

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 Jack B. Simple quoted Robert's essay with approval, and yet the entire piece is larded with doctrinal error and stupidity. Robert neglected to say that Edward Preus joined the Church of Rome and became a famous apologist for Catholicism.



GJ - Book authors do not owe reviewers any response at all, but Jack has a rather grand view of himself. I have well over 100 posts about Objective Justification. When Cascione has published a review of all those posts, I might consider a response. I have written a few books about the Chief Article and the errors that cling to the Cascione gang. I also taught Romans 1-5 in Greek recently, for  anyone who wanted to participate online. We went over every verse.







Greek Lesson - Mark 8:1ff



Parser - tells us the I.D. of the word

Lenski's Mark Commentary - download as a PDF



εν εκειναις ταις ημεραις, παμπολλου οχλου οντος και μη εχοντων τι φαγωσιν, προσκαλεσαμενος ο ιησους τους μαθητας αυτου λεγει αυτοις

σπλαγχνιζομαι επι τον οχλον οτι ηδη ημερας τρεις προσμενουσιν μοι και ουκ εχουσιν τι φαγωσιν

και εαν απολυσω αυτους νηστεις εις οικον αυτων εκλυθησονται εν τη οδω τινες γαρ αυτων μακροθεν ηκασιν

και απεκριθησαν αυτω οι μαθηται αυτου, ποθεν τουτους δυνησεται τις ωδε χορτασαι αρτων επ ερημιας

και επηρωτα αυτους ποσους εχετε αρτους οι δε ειπον επτα

και παρηγγειλεν τω οχλω αναπεσειν επι της γης και λαβων τους επτα αρτους ευχαριστησας εκλασεν και εδιδου τοις μαθηταις αυτου ινα παραθωσιν και παρεθηκαν τω οχλω

και ειχον ιχθυδια ολιγα και ευλογησας ειπεν παραθειναι και αυτα

εφαγον δε και εχορτασθησαν και ηραν περισσευματα κλασματων επτα σπυριδας

ησαν δε οι φαγοντες ως τετρακισχιλιοι και απελυσεν αυτους

10 και ευθεως εμβας εις το πλοιον μετα των μαθητων αυτου ηλθεν εις τα μερη δαλμανουθα

11 και εξηλθον οι φαρισαιοι και ηρξαντο συζητειν αυτω ζητουντες παρ αυτου σημειον απο του ουρανου πειραζοντες αυτον

12 και αναστεναξας τω πνευματι αυτου λεγει τι η γενεα αυτη σημειον επιζητει αμην λεγω υμιν ει δοθησεται τη γενεα ταυτη σημειον

13 και αφεις αυτους εμβας παλιν εις το πλοιον απηλθεν εις το περαν

14 και επελαθοντο λαβειν αρτους και ει μη ενα αρτον ουκ ειχον μεθ εαυτων εν τω πλοιω

15 και διεστελλετο αυτοις λεγων ορατε βλεπετε απο της ζυμης των φαρισαιων και της ζυμης ηρωδου

16 και διελογιζοντο προς αλληλους λεγοντες οτι αρτους ουκ εχομεν

17 και γνους ο ιησους λεγει αυτοις τι διαλογιζεσθε οτι αρτους ουκ εχετε ουπω νοειτε ουδε συνιετε ετι πεπωρωμενην εχετε την καρδιαν υμων

18 οφθαλμους εχοντες ου βλεπετε και ωτα εχοντες ουκ ακουετε και ου μνημονευετε

19 οτε τους πεντε αρτους εκλασα εις τους πεντακισχιλιους ποσους κοφινους πληρεις κλασματων ηρατε λεγουσιν αυτω δωδεκα

20 οτε δε τους επτα εις τους τετρακισχιλιους ποσων σπυριδων πληρωματα κλασματων ηρατε οι δε ειπον επτα

21 και ελεγεν αυτοις πως ου συνιετε
22 και ερχεται εις βηθσαιδαν και φερουσιν αυτω τυφλον και παρακαλουσιν αυτον ινα αυτου αψηται

23 και επιλαβομενος της χειρος του τυφλου εξηγαγεν αυτον εξω της κωμης και πτυσας εις τα ομματα αυτου επιθεις τας χειρας αυτω επηρωτα αυτον ει τι βλεπει

24 και αναβλεψας ελεγεν βλεπω τους ανθρωπους οτι ως δενδρα ορω περιπατουντας

25 ειτα παλιν επεθηκεν τας χειρας επι τους οφθαλμους αυτου και εποιησεν αυτον αναβλεψαι και αποκατεσταθη και ενεβλεψεν τηλαυγως απαντας

26 και απεστειλεν αυτον εις τον οικον αυτου λεγων μηδε εις την κωμην εισελθης μηδε ειπης τινι εν τη κωμη

LutherQuislings Attacking Justification by Faith

 "Why do you stubbornly stick to the Scriptures when we have provided so many cool insights from Calvinists, Pietists, Halle drop-outs, and kidnappers?"


Christian News "reviews" of The Path To Understanding Justification.

The Denominations - Not Very Good in Business - Horrible in Christianity

 Synodocrats take a selfie - they just got another estate.

The church bodies work at two levels, which means their operational dishonesty establishes new generations of dishonest clergy and disinterested laity.

When we graduated from college, 50 years ago, I went to seminary and attended classes with a lot of time for discussion. The new attitude shocked me. Instead of debating issues, people became angry if I disturbed the status quo by questioning something.


  • One minister in the seminary theology class told me off and called me a series of names in a burst of anger. Why? - because I said the book being fed to us, The Shining Stranger, was garbage. Nobody answered the fuming pastor, but some chuckled later, "We didn't have the professor's son reading that book to us anymore." 
  • In the graduate seminar on hermaneutics (Biblical interpretation), I suggested that we offer our opinion of the Virgin Birth, true or false. The entire class went nuts and no one answered, especially the professor, a PhD from Princeton.
  • I vicared where no one else wanted to work, the largest Lutheran congregation in Canada. The church was bi-lingual and the pastor very old-fashioned. The German chapel? - "The Labyrinth in the Chapel is currently available for use Sunday mornings from 9 am to 10 am." The congregation now has 1/3 the members of 50 years ago; it pioneered gay marriages.
At the congregational level, the Lutheran congregations were equally liturgical, used hymnals, and followed a set of Biblical passages for the sermons. That was just as true of the ALC-LCA as the LCMS. Although the ALC-LCA pressed for women's ordination, that had little effect for decades. Quotas leveraged that, and now Bishop Liz Eaton, ELCA, leads the pan-sexual army.

Everything the Lutheran sects officially practiced in the 1970s was just the opposite of what they believed, as shown by the firecracker-in-the-henhouse effect of addressing the Biblical doctrine of the Virgin Birth. The LCMS was almost LCA in those days and more devoted to politics than to the Book of Concord. The conservative reputation of the ALC and LCMS were promoted for PR but despised by the leaders and professors.

That dishonesty has continued and has the same effect as sprinkling salt on soap bubbles. Where did everybody go? Why are the seminaries empty?

Some thematic lies that should not be challenged today:
  • WELS was born orthodox. "There is no Church Growth Movement in WELS." God is thankful for WELS.
  • The LCMS was never Pietistic but always taught Objective Justification. Church Growth is good.
  • The ELS is a shining light of Book of Concord Lutheran doctrine. Church Growth Movement? Where?
  • ELCA has discovered the value and divine merit of diversity.
  • The Church of Rome is the answer - or at least Eastern Orthodoxy.
The synodocrats have a proven method to lead laity around with their lies and discussions. The leaders are hyper-sensitive to clergy who question the downward rush to apostasy. They have extended the Left Foot of Fellowship so often that few are left to voice an opinion.

"Don't let Ichabod disturb you. That blog is a waste of time, all lies and slander."