Monday, February 22, 2016

Luther on False Teachers as Peacocks

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"The peacock is an image of heretics and fanatical spirits. For on the order of the peacock they, too, show themselves and strut about in their gifts, which never are outstanding. But if they could see their feet, that is the foundation of their doctrine, they would be stricken with terror, lower their crests, and humble themselves. To be sure, they, too, suffer from jealousy, because they cannot bear honest and true teachers. They want to be the whole show and want to put up with no one next to them. And they are immeasurably envious, as peacocks are. Finally, they have a raucous and unpleasant voice, that is, their doctrine is bitter and sad for afflicted and godly minds; for it casts consciences down more than it lifts them up and strengthens them."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 642.


I was shocked that Father Larry Beane, LCMS, would explode in vulgarities and extremely personal insults on Facebook, then unfriend me.

I decided not to add more to the previous post, because those graphics heavy Facebook quotations get difficult to manage. However, I am always happy to make published comments even more public.

Imagine my surprise when I learned that some people own their own FB pages. That was new to me. I thought Facebook was a public website that provided space free so they could mine our information for ads they sell.

I thought discussions meant there were various positions to articulate, defend, or question. But that is never true with the Left, as I have witnessed many times.

UOJ, which I dared to question, using pixels owned by Father Beane, is a decidedly Left-wing position, a foundation for radicalism and Antinomianism (no Commandments).

Proof - the founder of the first gay Lutheran seminary - Seminex - came from WELS and advocated UOJ. He was also an apostate on Biblical inerrancy, so he was outted in WELS, then in Missouri, and finally settled in the ALC, pre-ELCA.

Seminex was the official seminary for the
all-gay Metropolitan Community Church.
The faculty members at Lutheran School of Theology, Chicago,
were controlled by the Seminex faction that moved to their campus.

Advocates of UOJ Inevitably Get Corked Off from Having Anyone
Answer Why They Are Wrong.
Father Larry Beane, LCMS, Reveals New Talent as a Vulgarian,
And Unfriends Me on Facebook!

No one dare answer honest questions with honest answers - even free books -
if said person steps on the Third Rail of UOJ,
right, Father Beane? (genuflecting at the altar)
Or maybe peacocks simply flock together.
Even then - their cries are raucous
even when the plumage is spectacular.
Update - Beane kept the original Scalia post but erased almost everything else, including his cowardly ad hominem attacks.

The discussion began about Scalia's funeral and whether it was a Gospel service or not. Since Father Scalia referred several times to Purgatorial devotion in the Church of Rome, I added this graphic to Larry Beane's initial thread. (See below)

Someone posted a David Scaer graphic, so I posted my graphic about his UOJ quote.

Someone asked what was wrong with Scaer's statement, so I linked my new book. He was asking me, after all.

He wanted a free book - and also a CliffNotes version, so I linked the free one and also a summary post that involved Robert Preus quotations from his last book.

The person who asked finished by saying -

Kenneth Bomberger Thanks for the link! I'll read it at my earliest convenience.

So what did Larry Beane write? Oh my. He went full Paul McCain on me for responding to questions, something we do on discussions, no?

Here is Father Larry Beane - responding to the thank you from Kenneth Bomberger -


Pater Larry Beane  Gregory, please use your own Facebook page for self-promotion. I charge $100 for ads. 

You're getting to be like the embarrassing relative that drinks too much at Thanksgiving and passes out on the bed with all the coats on it. 

Every family has members who want to hijack every expression of gratitude and joy, every real discussion and lighthearted banter, and even obvious humor, into a self-serving and dour political or doctrinal argument. 

Gregory, you need to display better behavior from now on, or you won't be invited back. 

To my other guests, I apologize. Hopefully your coats will not require dry cleaning.

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I was surprised by his vulgar, gratuitous response, so I naturally wrote - 


You should order your friends not to ask questions that deserve an answer. If you read the posts, you will see that.

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Father Larry Beane, LCMS Pastor responded  -

Pater Larry Beane Gregory, the way to save face is not to urinate in the kitchen.





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Where my participation started.
Gregory L. Jackson ...in Purgatory.
LikeReply1 hrEdited
Gregory L. Jackson Yes I do, Larry. And with Scaer's doctrine too.
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Jim Roemke What does a peacock head and swirly weird colors have to do with anything?
LikeReply11 hr
Tony Esolen I don't know, but the peacock was a symbol of Christ in some of the old iconography ...
LikeReply31 hr
Gregory L. Jackson Luther compared false teachers to peacocks.
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Gregory L. Jackson Luther on the peacock as a symbol of false doctrine.
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Kenneth Bomberger Enlighten me, plox, what exactly is wrong with the rainbow quote from Scaer?
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Gregory L. Jackson Scaer denounced Luther, Melanchthon, and the Book of Concord, not to mention the Holy Spirit, and the Apostle Paul.
LikeReply57 mins
Kenneth Bomberger But how is this false? To call this statement false is to denounce 1 Tim. 15, is it not?
"Whoever denies objective justification reduces justification to the act of believing and does not believe in it at all."

LikeReply46 mins
Gregory L. Jackson Kenneth, you need to study how you have been hoodwinked by Halle Pietism -http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSVTGRM

This book was prompted by the despicable essay given by Jay Webber at the Emmaus…
AMAZON.COM
Kenneth Bomberger Do you have a CliffNotes version, or do I need to buy your book to dialogue? wink emoticon
LikeReply38 mins
Gregory L. Jackson That's the Kindle. I have a free PDF. Let me look for it.
LikeReply36 mins
Gregory L. Jackson Calov refutes Scaer, and this is from Robert Preus' book.
LikeReply33 mins
Kenneth Bomberger Thanks for the link! I'll read it at my earliest convenience.


Pater Larry Beane Gregory, please use your own Facebook page for self-promotion. I charge $100 for ads.

You're getting to be like the embarrassing relative that drinks too much at Thanksgiving and passes out on the bed with all the coats on it.

Every family has members who want to hijack every expression of gratitude and joy, every real discussion and lighthearted banter, and even obvious humor, into a self-serving and dour political or doctrinal argument.

Gregory, you need to display better behavior from now on, or you won't be invited back.

To my other guests, I apologize. Hopefully your coats will not require dry cleaning.