Anything Goes District Evangelism

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Be prepared to choke down the vomit as you read the descriptions of some of the workshops.

Yes, my snowbound, faithful lay fellow NWD members, understand that your church contributions are being used to promote this garbage. You might want to ask your congregation president and board of elders why.


Diet O. Worms

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District Workshop
The 2008 District Workshop for WELS Congregations will be held at Fox Valley Lutheran High School in Appleton on March 8. The course listing brochure and registration forms are available below in the "District Workshop Info" folder. [GJ - This workshop is designed for all the poopy-butts who skipped our Church and Change conference last year. Below is last year's agenda with commentary.]

Commission Members
Chairman: Rev. Randall Styx [GJ - He should open a mission in Hell, Michigan.]

2008 Workshop for Congregations
Northern Wisconsin District
March 8, 2008
Fox Valley Lutheran High School
5300 N Meade, Appleton, WI

Registration 8:00 a.m.
Worship 9:00 a.m.
Session 1 10:00 a.m.
Lunch 11:35 a.m.
Session 2 12:35 p.m.
Session 3 2:10 p.m.
Closing devotion 3:45 p.m.

On your registration sheet, please indicate your choice for three workshop sessions plus two alternates.

1. Everything you always wanted to know about your synod; Q&A with the president – Rev. Mark Schroeder, WELS President
Here’s your chance to get all of those nagging questions about the synod answered. In this informal question and answer session, you can ask Synod President Mark Schroeder about anything having to do with the state of the synod, decisions of the last synod convention, and future plans for what we do together to carry out our common mission. (While financial questions are permitted here, please attend the Open Forum on Synod Finances if that is your primary interest.)

2. Open Forum on Synod Finances – Ron Hillmann, NWD
Synodical Council member, and Todd Poppe, WELS Chief Financial Officer
What is the current financial status of our Synod? How great is our debt, and where did it come from? What has happened since the Convention? Get answers directly from those who know. [GJ - Do not bring any sharp objects, please!]

3. Organizing Congregations for More Outreach
– Pastor Michael Hintz, Administrator – WELS Commission on Evangelism
Congregational organization will not save anyone – only the Gospel can do that. But effectively organizing the congregation’s work of evangelism can help to bring the Gospel to a greater number of people and give the Holy Spirit more opportunity to work saving faith in the hearts of people. In this workshop, we will give attention to 1) practical organization for evangelism in your congregation, 2) formulating a long-range plan that will serve to focus your work, and 3) helpful ideas for involving more members in your outreach efforts. [GJ - No comment needed. MBO. Burp.]

4. Involving Young Adults in Mission – Pastor Wayne Schulz
Connecting with and engaging twenty-somethings for the Lord's service. We will examine what some of their attitudes are toward Christianity and the church. We will encourage engaging them to engage their peer group. [GJ - Making disciples who make disciples who make disciples. No, not that way, silly.]

5. Family Evangelism
– Pastor Stuart Zak, Evangelism Coordinator- Northern Wisconsin District
Sons and daughters, grandchildren, brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, parents and grandparents, spouses... our greatest opportunity and responsibility to do evangelism often is in our family. There are some natural barriers that can hinder us from being effective and there is confidence in God's Word that overcomes all barriers. This workshop helps identify some "do's and don'ts" in communicating Christ with your own family.

6. Revitalization and our Lutheran Elementary Schools
– Greg R. Schmill, Forward with Lutheran Schools Consultant
This presentation explores the key questions surrounding the revitalization and strengthening of our Lutheran elementary schools: What does it mean to revitalize? Why we need to revitalize? Who should revitalize? What can a congregation do on its own to revitalize its school? Why would a congregation involve Parish Assistance/Forward with Lutheran Schools (PA/FWLS)? What does PA/FWLS have in place to help revitalize and strengthen schools?

7. From Bottles and Bibs to Blessings – Ann Potter, Director of Our Shepherd Childcare and Family Ministry Center

If your ministry will (does) include infants or preschoolers this workshop is for you. If you are in the planning stage we will offer helpful information and resources. If you are already offering this unique ministry let's get together and share ideas, successes, and hindsight advice. Topics will include: licensing regulations, policies, discipline, Christian curriculum ideas and resources, staffing, outreach ideas, and much, much, more.

8. Your Sunday School is Dead – Who Will Do the Funeral? (Transforming your Children’s Ministry into the best hour of a child’s week)
– Robert and Mary Beth Knippel
Children are bombarded by vibrant media—television, video games and MP3 players. Should we be surprised that the “Sunday School” model may be due for an overhaul? Take from this workshop all you need to conduct Sunday school’s funeral and begin a new chapter in Children’s ministry. Touch their senses with music, crafts, drama, intentional shepherding and develop deep and lasting relationships with their Savior Jesus. Christ-Light curriculum is utilized! [GJ - Certified Fuller Seminary promoter. Church and Change presenter, same presentation: 302a.... Your Sunday School is Dead–Who will do theFuneral? –Bob and Mary Beth Knippel. SS was a Baptist movement copied by the Lutherans. WELS should experiment with Luther's doctrine and the Means of Grace.]

9. How Healthy is Your School? – James M. Sievert
Is yours a healthy school? What does a healthy school look like? This workshop presents tools that can be used to assess the health of a school and the reasoning behind the tools.

10. Which Niche? – Choosing an outreach children’s ministry
– Pastor Paul Steinberg
We hear about so many congregations doing exciting and growing outreach minded children’s ministries. We can’t do them all. Share and discover an idea to take home and try where you are. Hear about after-school ministry, unique part-time ministries and slants on standard ministries. Share your ideas and experience. Big and small churches will leave with an idea and motivation to give it a shot. A CD with free ministry resources including PowerPoint visual Bible lessons will be given to all participants. [GJ - Is he wearing his Favre jersey for this one? Steinberg - St. Markus Church and Changer, giving the same presentation as he did at the last C and C conference. If the mountain won't go to Mohammed, Mohammed will go to the mountain.]

11. Helping Our Families Succeed – Pastor Bill Heiges
A church is only as strong as its families. The state of the family in today's world is vastly different from the days of Leave It To Beaver and Father Knows Best. Today Blended families and Single Parent families may outnumber traditional families in our churches. How can we reach them with God's Word and help them succeed? This presentation will offer solid solutions and resources any church can use to strengthen their families. [Church and Changer]

12. A Movie is Worth a Million Words – Pastor Nathan Krause
Using movie clips for sermons and church presentations - In this day and age of visual communication and entertainment there is no better way to leave a lasting impression with worshippers and group attendees than with the perfect movie clip. Learn how to find, manipulate and use video clips for worship and presentations. [GJ - Fresh from his Church and Change appearance.]

13. Women’s Ministry Ideas and Plans – Jane A. Schlenvogt
Are you hoping to approach women’s ministry to women in a fresh way? We’ll look at holding a focus group to discover your areas needs and ideas will be shared for creative planning and events.

14. WELS Women as Christian Leaders – Kathie Wendland
During the "Heirs Together of God's Gracious Gift of Life" Bible study preparation it became clear Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church. However, during that study it also became clear that many of us, men and women, have been confused by the world's concept of leadership and the world's understanding of headship. This session will look at Christian leadership and the blessings that honoring Scripture's headship principle bring to women leaders as Scripture defines those concepts. This WILL be an active participation Bible study! [GJ - Women teaching men - very Biblical.]

15. Getting Messy: Organizing Congregational Events – Deb Rothe
Get some ideas, timelines, and plans that are going to get your members to bring friends and those friends to come back to your church. It makes your comfy cozy congregation a bit messy and a bit awkward and saves souls – are you willing to get messy? [GJ - Um. No. I am willing to trust the Word.]

16. Myths on Children’s Grief – Kenneth Wenzel, WLIM Chaplain
Review how children grieve the death of a loved one differently from adults. Learn what myths hurt the grieving process and how to watch our for hurtful sayings. Understand how to help a child or the family of a child in the grieving process. Strengthen the skill of your compassion.

17. Let’s Go to a Special Ministries Conference – What did you say?
– Robb Robbert, Special Ministries District Coordinator
October 3-5, 2008 - National Special Ministries Conference will be held at the Sheraton Milwaukee Brookfield Hotel. If you or anyone in your congregation or community has interest in any of the 8 areas of Special Ministry (Cognitive disability, Deaf/Hard of Hearing, Blind, Elderly, MILITARY, Care for Called Workers, Mental Health issues, Prison/Jail Ministry) please come to this workshop at FVL and you will learn much more about the conference and will receive ½ off the registration fee for the October Conference. This year at the FVL workshop we will also be highlighting the Deaf and Hard of Hearing Ministry.

18. Do You Belong in Jail?
– Chaplain Dan Krause, Wisconsin Lutheran Institutional Ministry (WLIM)
There is an exciting outreach ministry right in our own Northern Wisconsin District. Laypersons and called workers are conducting visits, Bible studies and services in a variety of institutions (nursing homes, jails, prisons, hospitals, etc.). This presentation will present what is currently being done by several of the participants and leaders in this ministry. A survey will be done prior to the workshop to research and help coordinate some of our work being done by individuals, congregations and organizations in our NWD.

19. How to facilitate (lead) a small group Bible study,” Or “Leading a Bible Study in Jail, or Anywhere
– Duane D. Anderson, Lead Trainer for WELS – JMTT
This presentation includes seating arrangements, dynamics of small groups and related issues, need for qualitative questions, and how to encourage responses to questions. The second part is an in-depth presentation of how to develop Bible-based, study guides that can be completed within one hour. Duane Anderson is a Trainer for the WELS Jail Ministry Training Team.

20. Web Streaming your Services and Events – Cheaper Than You Think
– Martin Spriggs
Do you have members who can’t be in church on Sunday, but would like to “participate” anyway? How about college students or military? Would prospects like to “try out” your service before actually attending in person? Would relatives of your school children like to watch a school play or sporting event. This is all possible with web streaming. If you have a high speed internet connection in your church or school it’s really quite easy and cheap. Come learn what you need and brainstorm what the possibilities are. We will do an actual web stream in the class. Tell your friends so they can tune in and see you live…on the web. [GJ - I explained how to do this already, and I didn't charge a registration fee.]

21. Reaching the Disconnected Through Internet Technology
– Martin Spriggs
The world has gotten smaller and so have our congregations...not necessarily in size, but in our ability to stay in touch though internet technologies. Your ability to connect the disconnected can be enhanced with technologies like audio and video streaming, dynamic web sites and digital voice technologies. So if you are looking to "regain the straying", help prevent members from getting disconnected, or simply wanting to minister to those separated from you by distance (college or military members), come learn how technology can help.

22. The Use of PowerPoint to Enhance Sermon Presentation
– Pastor Mark Hannemann
PowerPoint can help the congregation follow the sermon message so they can better understand and retain it. Some basics will be presented for those not currently using this visual aid. Pastors who use PowerPoint are urged to bring samples to share so we can learn from one another. [GJ - Most professionals have been Power-Pointed to death. Most adult education experts avoid death by PP. WELS is always last to know.]

23. Faith Focused Finances and Your Congregation – Rev. David A. Kehl,
Administrator of WELS Commission on Adult Discipleship
What effect has our materialistic culture had on our congregational focus? What does consistently addressing personal finances have to do with making disciples? What can be done to build up healthy financial stewardship within congregations? This workshop will give participants an overview of the main themes and tools of Faith Focused Finances – a suite of resources to develop an atmosphere of stewardship and generosity in a congregation. The participants will leave with ideas and perhaps plans on how to use these tools in their area. [GJ - Here is a clue. The Bible says nothing about manufacturing disciples. Once again, why not experiment with trusting Gospel motivation? There are no apples where there are no trees.]

24. Using MIDI Technology in Worship
– Mr. Carl S. Nolte
What is MIDI and how does it work? This presentation will give a brief
overview of the technology called MIDI. Different programs and
applications will be demonstrated to show how it can be used in worship to
accompany choirs, instrumentalists, and the congregation. HymnSoft, a
MIDI program from NPH, will be discussed.

25. Using MIDI in Real Time to Involve More Members in Worship Music
– Sharon Winslow
Would you like to:
· create opportunities for more instrumentalists to play during worship?
· involve your teens with a new way to serve, utilizing their natural proficiency in technology?
· electronically add more variety to the sound of your worship music while retaining the spontaneity of real time performance?
· provide more technical, classical, contemporary or orchestral accompaniments for your choir, handbells, ensembles or soloists?
· give your organist a variety of new sounds to play live, as well as an “emergency back-up” for when the organist is absent?

26. In the Beginning – How to Start and (sic) Alternative Worship Experience
– Pastor James R. Skorzewski
What does contemporary worship mean? How do you start a contemporary service? There are changes taking places all over the worship world. Is it possible to use some “contemporary” ideas in a worship service and still remain Lutheran? In this session I will discuss what has worked for us at St. Marcus Lutheran Church in Milwaukee. [GJ - Is anyone surprised that this description has a typo? The pricey executive assistant probably reduced the typos by a factor of five.]

27. How to Change Your Church Without Killing It
– Pastor Mark Walters
We know that we’ve got the one thing needful for a post-modern culture – the unconditional forgiving love of Jesus Christ. Yet we also know that connecting with that culture many times means making changes to our traditional approach of “doing church”. Why does the one organization that should be most readily adaptable to change seem to be the most resistant? How do we move forward in bringing as many people with us as possible? This workshop seeks to explore some of the pre-conceived notions about change while giving participants basic tools to think about as they initiate and manage change in their congregation. (This workshop was originally scheduled for 2007, but was not able to be presented at that time.) [GJ - This has Church and Change written all over it.]

28. A Christian Response to Contemporary Biotechnology
– Robert Balza, Jr.
Modern biotechnology has ushered in an era of in vitro fertilization, pre-implantation genetic diagnosis, cloning and embryonic stem cell research. How should a Christian react to all of this? The goal of this course is to get past the dense scientific trade jargon, and provide a clear intellectual framework for considering these technology in the context one’s own moral sensitivities and in the light of Holy Scripture. – (Robert Balza Jr is an assistant professor of biology at Wisconsin Lutheran College and a member of St. John’s Lutheran Church in Wauwatosa, WI. He holds a PhD in biochemistry from the Medical College of Wisconsin. He has published and continues to work in in the field of developmental biology.)

29. Christian Estate Planning /and/ Practical Money Management –
Arnie Nommensen
All aspects of Christian estate planning and vehicles that can be used for Christian giving, during lifetime and at death.


30. Church Architecture – Coordinating Form and Function –
Pastor Randall Styx
Are you thinking about a new building? …about remodeling or expanding your building? This workshop presents food for thought for the earliest stages of the planning process. Will your building design your mission and ministry or will your mission and ministry design your building?

Who may attend? Anyone. We especially encourage church leaders to come, but all are welcome, even non-members. (Non-members, please register using the name of the WELS church with which you associate.)

Please note the Workshop Numbers of the topics you wish to attend and enter those numbers on the Registration Form as your choices and alternates. Register early for a better chance of getting your choices. Registration deadline: Feb. 27.

Please note that you are registering for workshops, not for timeslots. Most topics are planned to be presented multiple times. In a few cases, however, a particular topic will be offered only once or twice, depending on the availability of the presenters. The number of times a topic is offered will also depend on how many register. The details will not be known until the registration deadline.

What if I miss the registration deadline? You may “late register” on the day of the Workshop, but some sessions may be filled by that time, or cancelled if not enough people registered for a particular workshop.

What if I can attend only a part of the day? How do I avoid being scheduled for a session when I can’t be there? Please make this known on your registration form. If your choice is available when you can be there, you will be scheduled accordingly.

Can I find out before March 8, what my schedule is? No. We simply do not have the time or resources to provide that information.

What does it cost? The registration fee is $50 per congregation, regardless how many from a congregation attend. We hope this encourages congregations to send many of their members to the Workshop. If you plan to attend, please let your Treasurer or Pastor know you are coming and to where to send the registration fee. If you wish to eat lunch at the high school, each individual will need to purchase a lunch ticket at $5.00 each.

Do I need to bring anything? No. We will provide a [Thrivent] folder and have [Thrivent] pens or [Thrivent] pencils available. You may bring paper and other things [as long as they don't compete with Thrivent].

What if I cannot come after I have registered? Please let us know. That way we won’t turn people away from a class that would be full only if you attend.

Can I register by e-mail? Yes. Just be sure to include all the information asked for on the registration sheet. The e-mail address for registration is:
pastor@stjohnlutheran-valmy.org
.Please include only one person per e-mail, unless you are asking for exactly the same sessions and want to attend them together. Please enter “2008 Workshop registration” as the subject. Pastor Styx routinely deletes e-mail messages he does not recognize without opening them. If you don’t use this subject identifier, your message will probably be deleted. The deadline for e-mail registration is the same as for the standard form: February 27.

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Run Kids - Ski At Fox Valley Today":

Mr. Worms, that is a good link to what the WELS is up to.

This is from the list of offerings: 14. WELS Women as Christian Leaders – Kathie Wendland,

"During the "Heirs Together of God's Gracious Gift of Life" Bible study preparation it became clear Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church. However, during that study it also became clear that many of us, men and women, have been confused by the world's concept of leadership and the world's understanding of headship. This session will look at Christian leadership and the blessings that honoring Scripture's headship principle bring to women leaders as Scripture defines those concepts. This WILL be an active participation Bible study!"

Kathie's quote, "Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church."

Here's her WELS presentation about how women will be made leaders in the church or the church will lose them. http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2009/02/church-door-symposium.html

Here's Luther's stance on this very popular garbage being fed to all churches: Martin Luther states in “Lectures on 1 Timothy” (Luther’s Works, Vol. 28) 1 Tim. 2:11. “Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I believe that Paul is still speaking about public matters. I also want it to refer to the public ministry, which occurs in the public assembly of the church. There a woman must be completely quiet, because she should remain a hearer and not become a teacher. She is not to be the spokesman among the people. She should refrain from teaching, from praying (ie: leading in prayer) in public. She has the command to speak at home. This passage makes a woman subject. It takes from her all public office and authority.”

In Christ,
Brett Meyer

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Anything Goes District Evangelism":

The info presented here is from the 2008 workshop. Today was the 2009 workshop (and James Skorzewski was a presenter). There were about 20 workshops today. If I can find my schedule I will post it.

My reaction to this year's 2009 workshop is similar to the original poster's reaction to last year's workshop.

WELS has died :(

Run Kids - Ski At Fox Valley Today

Pastor Ski in his formal togs for evangelism work.

When the Milwaukee Journal showed up for his swan song,
Ski borrowed a shirt and tie from Goodwill.

From the pricey executive assistant, Ski's editor:



Up way too early on a Saturday morning. At FVL for evangelism workshop. Skis (sic) presenting. Gotta run the computer.

about 2 hours ago from Tweetie

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"I am Doug Englebrecht, and I totally approve this mission."
(DP, Anything Goes District in Northern Wisconsin)

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GJ - OK, I give up. What evangelism has Ski done in the last few months? Presenting Craig Groeschel's thoughts as his own? Talking to people at Starbuck's? Showing the Wizard of Oz? The 30 minute service followed by the three-hour party? The totally awesome website?

Paul Is Appealing, But Peale Is Appalling

Napoleon Hill was the recipient of the wisdom of the ages, given by spirits hovering in his study. According to Hill, the only devil is that person who believes in Satan. Think And Grow Rich is his claim to fame. ("Dream big.." - sound fammiliar? - Parlow channeling Hill.)

Norman Vincent Peale plagiarized occult materials, often verbatim, for his famous book - The Power of Positive Thinking. Peale is a favorite in WELS. When I put copies of The Northwestern Lutheran at the pro-life WELS counseling center, they were taken away and replaced with Peale's magazine. Alpha was supposed to be evangelism for WELS, but it was evangelism for Peale. Stolzenburg had nothing to do with Alpha, even though he meddled in everything else, from teens to OWLS.

Robert Schuller cleverly featured Norman Vincent Peale as he laid the foundation for the anti-confessional, unionistic Church Growth Movement. Schuller, with his beloved son, whom he fired, has been given a Napoleon Hill award for promoting the spooky New Age philosophy of the old fraud Hill.


Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Same Old Baloney: Leadership Principles for Church...":

Norman Vincent Peale must fit in here somewhere because I hear the New Age doctrine of Possibility Thinking in what the Church Growth pushers say when they gather on the corner of Maple and Straight to Hell Dr.

Same Old Baloney: Leadership Principles for Church Growth, Emerging Church, Becoming Missional

One leadership seminar is enough to make anyone comatose.

I attended a national business conference where John Maxwell was the featured speaker. The CEO brought his children, so I was ready to charge him with child abuse. The poor little kids were taking notes. Maxwell, knowing who wrote the checks, knelt on the stage and spoke directly to the children. Their ecstatic father was transported with delight.

Innocent and beguiled, told that he was a great speaker, I ordered two Maxwell books before the conference. When they arrived after the conference, leather-bound, they made a fast trip to the return bin at the post office.

I complained to someone who heard all the greats at the headquarters of a retail giant. All media celebrities, from Al Gore to famous entertainers and sports stars, are regulars for the Saturday sessions.

I moaned, "How can someone so famous be such a hot air merchant?"

The retailer explained to me, "There are only about 50 things to say about leadership. They all recycle the same things, over and over. One speaker is as good as the next. Believe me, I have heard them all."

Over the years I have listened to plenty of tapes, starting with Management by Objective by Peter Drucker. That is why I smelled a rat when WELS leaders began talking the same line as I heard from LCA leaders. Fuller professors ape MBO: they are the Prime Movers in treating the Church as a business. In that regard they have done well for themselves but served the Lord very poorly indeed.

Sidebar: The best take on all this came from a lifelong union member at General Motors, who was in my class. I had a struggle naming one book he had not read and remembered well. He said, "They are always looking for the Type A personality, but now they realize that those domineering bullies are the ones who wreck their companies." If someone had taken his advice at the moment, a wise investor would have sold all stocks short - long before the meltdown.

A business philosophy is the core--to coin a term--of all these apostate trends: Church Growth, Emerging Church, Becoming Missional. If I cared to attend Catalyst, Drive 08, Exponential, or any other pan-denominational lovefest, I would hear a lot of Andy Stanley recycling John Maxwell recycling Peter Drucker. In fact, the business conference I attended earlier was led by Evangelicals, Pentecostals, and Roman Catholics who merged business with their Prosperity Gospel, giving me the uneasy feeling that I was indeed at another Fuller seminar. (I attended one when asked by a member of St. Paul, German Village. There Robert Schuman brought a bevy of the beguiled. Soon after, Schuman was selling Thrivent insurance. Maybe they weren't beguiled.)

WELS and Missouri continue to use the same business model employed so successfully by Fuller Seminary. McGavran and C. Peter Wagner started at the top by inviting the world mission executives of all the denominations to their scrofulous school. Once they bewitched the executives, it was easy for the useful idiots to refer downward. (Referring upward is much more difficult.) If the boss thinks it is a great idea, the sub-boss will think it is a great idea and recruit his junior managers, who will get funds for the pastors and laity to attend the same brain-washing sessions.

WELS and the LCMS teach these apostate trends in unison, with the tiny ELS and CLC shouting their little Amens. Sweet spoke at Our Lady of Sorrows in St. Louis and the sem president swooned. Sweet spoke to the Church and Changers while Paul Kelm stood unmoved by pleas he was polarizing the synod. Stetzer is speaking to Missouri and WELS in 2009. Is it possible both sets of Church Shrinkers listened to him at the same pan-denominational lovefest? VP Don Patterson (Kudu Don) organized a troop of WELS people to attend that conference.


The Purposeful Church by Rick Warren, John Maxwell, Peter Wagner, Reggie McNeal

John Maxwell, master of schmooze.

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Same Old Baloney: Leadership Principles for Church...":

What is interesting is that these MBO concepts are a failure in the secular business world as much as they are in any congregation. I was also a union member for many years at a division of GM. The assessment of GM by one of your students is quite correct. GM had all kinds of programs, slogans, acronyms along with the type A managers. They even had mission and vision statements. The plant where I once worked is an empty shell with a For Sale in front. The Lutheran congregations that try this nonsense will probably end up the same way. At my WELS congregation, we are constantly bombarded with this claptrap about leadership, available at workshops and conferences. Yet, there is not even a hint of an offering of any serious doctrinal studies in the Lutheran Confessions for our laity. Go figure.

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GJ - Ask for a study of any part of the Book of Concord and the pastor will sneer. Our little congregation just finished a study of the entire Book of Concord. We are now studying doctrinal comparisons. It's all available (free) at our Ustream website address. In the future we will study Pietism (many weeks) and the Leadership Principles of John Maxwell (5 minutes).

Schwaermer Input Equals Schwaermer Output

Youth Trip.

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Clueless Times Two":

I thought they were marketing to an older age group. Sure sign of shoddy evangelism when what should be good solid Christian demographic marketing of the gospel actually brings in the wrong target group. Equally appalling, and likely to come as a complete shock, is that they may not be prepared to speak in the language of 12 year olds today. The gospel given in the language of today's 25 year olds would never be understood. What's a Methodist Baptist Universalist Lutheran to do?

That "language of today" position was actually presented by WELS Pastor Jared Oldenburg (Mission pastor to Covington, Wa.) in a church news letter titled, "Multicultural Urban Missionary?" May, 2005. He had just returned from a two day Leadership Seminar in Milwaukee that featured speaker Dr. Reggie McNeal (Baptist Church Growth disciple and Fuller Seminary instructor). Quote, "I can't explain the whole two days in 400 words, but it comes down to this: Generations are different and to connect you almost need to speak a different language. Different generations have different ideas, they have different ways of communicating, different job choices and sometimes even different core values. There is no doubt that the seriousness of sin and the wonder of Jesus dying for us is necessary for every generation. However, if we try to communicate this wonderful message in the language of a different generation, we may not be communicating at all. Obviously this is a scary thing - but with the Lord's help we will have the courage to learn the language of every generation in our multicultural ministry."

Pastor Oldenburg was also active in having his new mission congregation create new creeds and using Lyle Schaller and Herb Miller's The Parish Paper articles in directing church efforts. One such presentation to the church elders was, "Recovering Inactive Members" (June 2002) which began, "I'm glad we're getting a new pastor," she said. "Yes," her friend replied. "Maybe she can get some of our inactive members to come back."....... The article goes on to point out 20 reasons people drop out of church and how to respond - none of which dealt with using God's Word.


Reggie McNeal is another Fuller Seminary gasbag.

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GJ - Lyle Schaller (another leader I met and spoke with) has some interesting ideas never mentioned by Church Growth feminists. He is a liberal and says so. He also pointed out that every church position occupied by a woman will never be taken by a man again. It becomes a woman's position and no man will take it. Notice the WELS churches with council secretaries who are women. Wait for a man to take the position. Ditto Sunday School superintendent or children's sermon speaker (a woman at St. Mark Depere). The old fuddy-duddy position of WELS forced men to do the spiritual work and kept more men coming to church. Feminist churches quickly become all-women churches. One woman talked about this with my wife. Her church had a woman pastor and an all-woman council. Hardly any men attended. Mrs. Ichabod said, "How do you like that?" The woman, after bragging a bit, said, "I miss them."

People can flip all the rules around but human behavior remains the same. A girl will ride a boy's bike, but a boy will not ride a girl's bike more than once. His friends will see to that.


Church and Change favors Lyle Schaller over John Schaller. Grace in Milwaukee used to have John: now they have Lyle.

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dk has left a new comment on your post "Schwaermer Input Equals Schwaermer Output":

That Hideous Strength
A quote Reggie McNeal quote cited by Brett:
“Different generations have different ideas, they have different ways of communicating, different job choices and sometimes even different core values.”

This lie is spread by Educators everywhere, who indoctrinate their pupils to think that humanity can reinvent itself every twenty years. If this statement were true we would not be able to understand “The Epic of Gilgamesh” and other ancient literature, not to mention The Holy Scriptures, since we're so far removed from ancient culture.
McNeal is just one more liar fooling around with language for his own purposes.

Quick book review: I cannot recommend C.S. Lewis’ theology, but Lewis is very observant about language problems of our modern age. In his fictional story “That Hideous Strength”, which I highly recommend, (A great metaphor for the current WELS problems) Lewis shows how the manipulation of language is used and why manipulation of language is so powerful.

For the folks on the fence—the ones who are disturbed by the liberalism in the WELS but yet are unsure of who to listen to—“That Hideous Strength” would be a good choice. Lewis’ characters are understandable; we find them thinking and reacting the way we have thought or reacted. We see real tension and real inner introspection happening in the characters that compare quite easily to our own experiences. Lewis vividly and accurately depicts how groups of people work—and how people work groups.

It’s not theology; it’s very readable. (not to say that theology is unreadable) It is a great analysis of the modus operendi (sic) of Pastor Kelm, and the other heads in the basement of 2929 N. Mayfair.

Clueless Times Two

"If 20 WELS kids bring their parents and siblings and the gardener,
we can fill one row."

20 plus 6th thru 8th graders at The CORE tonight for junior youth group. Ahhh the perks of having a theater for a church!
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

New comment: "It's fun to watch people melt on twitter. 20 kids? In a theater that seats around 500? What a coup..."


DP Engelbrecht (Anything Goes District):
"I can get you a Kingdom Workers grant for popcorn and Wi-Fi.
Kudu Don Patterson recommends a Lil Rockers group.
We are all about mission."

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Clueless":

You can be pretty clever Greg, but what exactly is the point of this post?

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GJ - A church youth group will naturally gravitate toward popcorn and movies. Although details are sparse, this seems to be an established church youth group. What has been accomplished? Widows and orphans are robbed to lease an enormous sandbox for a few people to play in. Who, may I ask, will serve in the Rock and Roll band for church services (to stretch the term)? Will Ski convert some I-hate-church prospects and sign them up? Or will they gather rockers from local WELS churches?

As a high school student, I attended a Lutheran church where the youth meetings always ended in Vespers from the hymnal or another similar service. Sunday services were always liturgical. No one imagined doing anything else. I was from a non-liturgical family, and I associated the free-form services with tacky hymns and bland sermons.

The Missional or Emerging Church focus is not new. Revivalists did the same thing. The Rock and Roll version is simply the final belch from the Pepsi Generation. Stop and thank the Boomers for rolling over and playing dead for 20 years.

No Joke: Homeless Person Photographs Michelle Obama with His Cell Phone

Michelle Obama posed for a picture, taken by a homeless person -
with his cell phone.

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GJ - Is any commentary necessary?

I Am Richer Than Donald Trump - Again

I have fulfilled my lifelong dream twice. Donald Trump is bankrupt again, leaving his San Diego investors in the lurch for all their deposits. The Donald is filing for bankruptcy in that project.

Once again, I am richer than Donald Trump. Some years ago I was ahead of him by $400 million, when he was in court asking for bankruptcy protection and was $400 million in the red. I was at zero net worth, optimistically speaking. A lenient court system and a booming real estate market allowed Trump to edge ahead of me for a short time.

Another dream has been fulflled. I have a body like Arnold Schwarzenegger's:

Quick To Whine

"Do you ever just get tired of it?"
Church and Chicaneries cannot abide opposition. They spend all their energy opposing: good church music, edifying hymns, real sermons (home made, not from Old Scratch), the liturgy, the Creeds, and Biblical doctrine. As soon as anyone opposes them or worse - exposes them, the whining starts.

Pouting, name-calling, and hissy-fits follow. VP Patterson was having a blast shooting zebras until he found himself featured with his odious network on Ichabod. His one response carefully avoided the facts while calling me a fool and a liar. One after another, his network contacted me to oppose what I wrote. Very organized, just like a network.

Ski was floating high above A-town, bragging about his theatre, not realizing the failed Imax was his tarbaby. Life is a party when useful rich idiots fund another pie-in-face for WELS. "We will show the old fuddy-duddies how to do Andy Stanley in our pea-picking synod and make everyone take notice." Ski's pricey executive assistant thought it was the coolest job ever, until the phone started ringing. Now the Imax is their jail. Whatever money was given, how does one fill a monster building using a goofy plan when many others are doing the anti-confessional Stanley clone entertainment center already? Every month the pressure will mount to show results.

They should have taken note of Kelm on the C and C list-serve. He got what he wanted, the Sweet Retreat, but he could not abide any opposition to his plans from his own sty-mates. What happened to Old Eight and Eighteen? He built his career on opposing Lutheran doctrine and promoting Deformed doctrine, but he cannot take people questioning his bad judgment.

Valleskey had to whine to his DP that I never talked to him, knowing full well that I did. A faked whine is ever worse than a normal whine.

Bivens did the same thing, whining that he could not figure out how I got the idea that he went to Fuller Seminary. Yet Bivens knew that it came from his mouth, witnessed by the entire Midland Circuit, including the future DP John Seifert.

Many years ago, James Huebner whined that people cringed when he mentioned Church Growth. Clueless Jim could not figure out that sincere Lutherans consider Fuller doctrine to be theological flatulence. They cringe for good reason. But Huebner made a career out of gas and now has a high but meaningless synodical position.

Larry Olson lowered himself to whining in Christian News, revealing even more disturbing details about his life and work. Who has promoted the ipsissima verba of Dr. Olson more than I? No gratitude.

Wayne Mueller, after being quoted in Christian News, threatened the leaker instead of me. He whined, "If I ever get my hands on the guy who gave that to Greg Jackson..." He let the audience of pastors imagine the grim details.

A Vice President of WELS attacked me by name at a pastoral conference. I was not there to defend myself. Later he found himself defenestrated for propositioning a woman in a counseling session. Soon after he whined that I lied about his exit from the WELS ministry. I sent his aggrieved in-law a copy of the report: "removed for cause." I was so used to liars calling me a liar that I kept records. I even have a thick file of criminal records.

The Church and Changers are not nice people. They make sure they lead a life of ease and luxury, based on Other People's Money. As soon as they spot any opposition, they root it out. They meddle with congregations. While clinging to the Eighth Commandment they spread slander faster than the flu. They demand that anyone who questions their inspiration sit down and explain any reservations about their doctrine. They use that experience to give the person the Sisera treatment, explaining matters with a tent peg and mallet.

People can see now that Church and Change is on the run. Everyone knows about Stetzer. They can all see that the Chicaneries are afraid of announcing their special speaker to their own befuddled followers. Joe Krohn, an ardent Rock and Roll follower, could not get the truth from their deceitful lips.

The Chicaneries are losing their grip on The Love Shack. A few more exits will lead to a new name for WELS headquarters, if some Lutherans start working there.

Anyone who thinks SP Schroeder can handle this alone is a fool. The so-called conservatives have been quieter than an ant wetting cotton. They will have to do more, from the congregational and circuit level to the conference level and beyond. Pastors are obliged to teach, whether they please or not. They are ordained to teach the truth, even if that is deemed unpopular, disturbing, and unbrotherly. It is better to have one brother in faith than enjoy the fellowship of a pit full of vipers.

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One More Whiner has left a new comment on your post "Quick To Whine":

Oh, please! I'm sick and tired of hearing all this stuff over and over and over and over and over again. If I were a doctor, I would diagnose you as having some sort of psychological disorder or something.

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GJ - A doctor would wonder about someone who reads the same blog every day and makes the same whiney comments each time.

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"O Lord, Look Down from Heaven, Behold"

by Martin Luther, 1483-1546

1. O Lord, look down from heaven, behold
And let Thy pity waken:
How few are we within Thy Fold,
Thy saints by men forsaken!
True faith seems quenched on every hand,
Men suffer not Thy Word to stand;
Dark times have us o'ertaken.

2. With fraud which they themselves invent
Thy truth they have confounded;
Their hearts are not with one consent
On Thy pure doctrine grounded.
While they parade with outward show,
They lead the people to and fro,
In error's maze astounded.

3. May God root out all heresy
And of false teachers rid us
Who proudly say: "Now, where is he
That shall our speech forbid us?
By right or might we shall prevail;
What we determine cannot fail;
We own no lord and master."

4. Therefore saith God, "I must arise,
The poor My help are needing;
To Me ascend My people's cries,
And I have heard their pleading.
For them My saving Word shall fight
And fearlessly and sharply smite,
The poor with might defending."

5. As silver tried by fire is pure
From all adulteration,
So through God's Word shall men endure
Each trial and temptation.
Its light beams brighter through the cross,
And, purified from human dross,
It shines through every nation.

6. Thy truth defend, O God, and stay
This evil generation;
And from the error of their way
Keep Thine own congregation.
The wicked everywhere abound
And would Thy little flock confound;
But Thou art our Salvation.

Hymn 260
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Ps. 12
Author: Martin Luther, 1523
Translated by: composite
Titled: "Ach Gott vom Himmel, sieh darein"
Tune: "Ach Gott vom Himmel"
1st Published in: Enchiridion
Town: Erfurt, 1524

From Bailing Water - On Worship

Freddy Finkelstein said...
Anon @3/4/09-10:53PM,

At your suggestion, I pulled Volume III of The Wauwatosa Theology off my bookshelf last night and read August Pieper's essay, "The True Reconstruction of the Church" (pp. 295-345). He addresses the modern call of his day, the call for “reconstruction” in the church, and addresses this call by focusing the Ministerium on the efficacy of the Word alone. Definitely an interesting and worthwhile read. Even though it was written in 1919, it seems to have direct application to our day – even the cultural impact of the political and economic realities that he appeals from his time, in many ways seem to echo today's situation. For the benefit of others on this blog, I'll quote some sections from this essay that I thought were compelling, and include my summary and thoughts where it seems beneficial:

Heading: The church lives only from the Word
“Our general synod is not in a flourishing condition inasmuch and insofar as it has brilliant and titled professors, educated and eloquent pastors, masterful teachers, capable officials, model constitutions and organizations, adequate facilities, beautiful church and school buildings, imposing educational institutions, or a phenomenal external growth, constantly overflowing treasuries, heavy endowments, adequate property and lucrative business establishments; but it flourishes to the degree that the spiritual character just described – faith, knowledge, fear of God, piety, blessedness, holiness, love toward God and our Lord Jesus Christ, the very image of Christ itself – dwells in it. ...And this is her disgrace and her shame, her poverty, her misery, and her harm: lack of knowledge, lack of faith, spiritual satiety and lukewarmness, and satisfaction with the world” (pp. 298-299).

Heading: Does the church in our midst need spiritual renewal?
Here, Pieper makes the point that “renewal” in the church is not an institutional renewal, but a renewal in the hearts of individuals as they seek God in His Word. He identifies great need for renewal, beginning first with professors, pastors, and teachers:

“There are indeed many God-fearing children still among us... [y]et it is unmistakable, that the life among us is in the process of diminishing. We have now had the gospel in its truth and purity in great abundance and power for so long a time, and have accustomed ourselves to this blessing so thoroughly, that we no longer regard it as something extraordinary. This is already the first step toward despising it. ...In our Christian homes there is and remains very little of God's Word, hardly even the regular family worship with Scripture reading and prayer every morning and every evening. Yes, in some Christian homes there is no common prayer at all anymore, neither spoken by the father, nor by the mother, nor by the children... Even table prayers have been discontinued in some families. The Bible is seldom or never opened. Only the grandmother still prays perhaps with her hymnal; all the rest either leave the hymnal at the church, or they put it away immediately after the church service until the following Sunday; it only serves in the regular church service. ...Outwardly they have kept the faith and remained in the church; but they have lost the spirit of faith, the spiritual character, the joy of their heart in the grace, in Christ, in the gospel, in their state of grace, and in their soul's salvation. Thus they have also become indifferent and cold in their love to their Savior; the sincere fear of God is gone. Now they can do a hundred things with the world which would have been abhorrent to them as Christians... The flesh has gained the upper hand again. ...[T]he spirit, the life, the power of faith is disappearing more and more, and the world is gradually possessing our hearts more and more. If our people do not turn back, if we professors, pastors, and teachers cannot reverse this decrease of faith, then our Lutheran church is approaching complete spiritual death. We professors, pastors, and teachers! Yes, if anyone has it, we have the call to avert the threatening decrease of faith. It is the 'angel,' that is, the bishop of the congregation at Sardis, that receives the admonition from Christ, 'Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die.' ...Don't you know... that we... are special gifts of Christ to his holy church, ...specially endowed ...with special gifts, ...and specifically given to the Church and placed in our office for the edification and perfecting of the church? Don't you know, that the Lord has for this reason so frequently and so fervently and so earnestly admonished us to be faithful in the discharge of our duty...? ...Dear brother professor, pastor, teacher, visitor, president; just read the 34th chapter of the book of Ezekiel in your Bible and see whether you do not tremble when you examine yourself as to your own faithfulness! Yes, the welfare of the church depends to a great degree on our faithfulness” (pp. 302-308).

Pieper goes on in this same section, through page 311, pointing out that if professors, pastors, and teachers, identify a problem, yet do no more than complain, they are not acting faithfully. He invokes the picture of the lukewarm Laodiceans, and concludes on page 311, “[t]his spiritual lukewarmness, indifference, lassitude, and obtuseness dominates not only the clergy of other churches in our time, but is also the greatest defect of our own church.” From here, he goes on to describe how professors, pastors, and teachers, fall into the trap of rote fulfillment of their duties, and correlates the quality of their spiritual life with the life of the church. On page 314, he has this to say:

“We no longer are pleased with our own thoughts; they have long since become tedious to us. Is it then surprising that our preaching also becomes tedious...? This, this, is the dead mechanical workmanlike activity in the ministerial office in the church, school, and classroom, this spells certain death for the gospel and the church.”

But, Pieper goes on:

“That is how the church died in Germany. In Luther's lifetime everything was still alive and active. Thirty-five years after his death “pure doctrine” and “pure practice” had been established everywhere in Lutheran areas. Some 70 years later... it was still present everywhere, but almost everywhere dead, for the most part a mere boasting concerning pure-doctrine and a loveless struggle for orthodoxy [Note: of course, there was more to it that this, and it is widely acknowledged today that the Lutheran church was far from 'spiritually dead' – but the problem of orthodoxism at the time was serious and is equally acknowledged today. FF]. Pietism, sanctimoniousness, was the first reaction to this, worse even that the death existing hitherto... Rationalism and unbelief, the opposite extreme, worse than both [both pietism and orthodoxism. FF], flooded the church, and the pulpit and the lecture platform became the seat of Satan, which Germany never got rid of again... But Pietism and Rationalism... could have done no harm to the church, if the pastors, professors, and teachers had not first forsaken the pure doctrine by degenerating into dead orthodoxy and into spiritless mechanical operation with the traditional body of doctrine” (pg. 314).

Error is introduced into the church, and is increasingly tolerated, because it takes vigor to oppose it, and the “spiritual lukewarmness, indifference [and] lassitude” of “the dead mechanical workmanlike activity in the ministerial office in the church” is simply lacking in sufficient livelihood to take up the cause against it. Pieper comments on page 316, concluding this section:

“Great offenses occur among us: un-Lutheran practice, offensive public actions, insincerity, dishonest dealings, speculation, gross neglect of duty. The rest of us see it, know it, yet do not reprove it. The offense spreads like cancer, and on our account the name of God is blasphemed among the heathen. It is not that such offenses occur among us, but that they are no longer fittingly reproved by others, that is so serious. ...A Christian teaching profession that tolerates public offenses in its midst has degenerated to the level of the people of this world, ruins the conscience of Christian people, and hastens the spiritual death of the church. ...A reconstruction that endeavors to make various external innovations, without correcting the basic damage of the church, the indifference in spirit, is worth nothing. What we teachers and hearers need above all is a new and right spirit.”

Heading: How should and can such renewal take place?
In this, the final section of part one of Pieper's essay, he begins by answering this question as follows: “Let no one say, we can do nothing about that; that is something that God and God alone must accomplish without our cooperation” (pg. 316). While Pieper immediately admits that everything which God accomplishes in the unregenerate is accomplished without the cooperation of man, he insists that it is mis-applied to one who has been given spiritual life. A Christian can do something, two things specifically: (1) pray, and (2) seek God the Holy Spirit where he is to be found, in His Means of Grace, the Word of God. Further, he states that prayer alone is not sufficient: “No prayer for the Holy Spirit will accomplish anything if it does not immediately rise from its knees and help to plow the field on which the bread of life, of the spirit grows – the gospel, the Scripture” (pg. 318).

The rest of the essay, through page 345, is devoted to how one studies the Scripture (the remainder of part one), why/how one keeps reason subordinate to Scripture (part two), and discussing the specific needs of so-called “reconstruction” in 1919 (part three). If I had to take away only one fact from this essay regarding the spiritual health of a church body, it would be this: a lack of spiritual health in a church body (like our synod) is less a reflection of problems among the laity than it is a strong indication of problems in the Ministerium. Further, for all of our harping about this and that, the correction of such issues -- or “spiritual renewal” -- is not to be found in "programs" or other “external innovations,” nor is it really to be found in a grass-roots “revival” among the laity: it is principally to be found in “spiritual renewal” among the Ministerium – among our professors, pastors, and teachers – which begins as they seek first to nurture their own souls (even before those under their care), through personal prayer and study in God's Word outside of that required by their vocational duties, and is further marked by their public reproof and correction of corrupting errors among us.

Anon @3/4/09-10:53PM – thanks for pointing out this essay. It was a good read. Hopefully I have provided enough, above, to create the discussion you suggest.

Freddy Finkelstein

Broadcasting The Means of Grace, Low Cost:Feel Free To Steal My Concepts

I am the True Vine." John 15. Drawing by Norma Boeckler.
NKJ John 15:1 I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 "By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

I am in a state of perpetual shock that two full-time theatre operators have so little time to do real mission work.

KJV Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

The only way to start is to provide genuine worship services and education opportunities.

NKJ Isaiah 55:8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways, says the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. 10 "For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, And do not return there, But water the earth, And make it bring forth and bud, That it may give seed to the sower And bread to the eater, 11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.

In this age of instant communication, the Internet has provided many different ways to broadcast the Word (Matthew 13, the Sower and the Seed) without spending much money.

NKJ Matthew 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 "yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Anyone can create a website filled with content, using templates. Or, the material can be produced through a blog, which is essential the same, only easier.

Anyone can get a $75 web camera, buy monthly broadband, and broadcast live (with saved files) for free, using Ustream.

Anyone can create podcasts, email mailings, and twitters with worthwhile messages. Some people have helped me with technology issues, and I do not even know their names.

Add Lenski and the Book of Concord, plus boxer shorts, and a legitimate pastor can allow God to accomplish His will through the Word.

One of my best and wisest friends wrote about the time he was in the grocery business. The store kept trying to sell everything except groceries. He wondered, "Why are we ashamed to be grocers?"

The same thing can be said about an Imax theatre which failed when it had a clear focus on a specific business, but suddenly becomes a mission. Now we are to assume that a vast sum of money can be spent to hide a church underneath a cloaking device, an Imax theatre, and the failed movie-house will become a successful church by copying Andy Stanley ("20 sub-woofers behind that screen!") and plagiarizing Craig Groeschel's sermons. When the CORE website was partially down for a few hours, I thought, "They are getting rid of the Groeschel evidence." But later, the same sermon titles copied from Groeschel showed up again. That is no accident, because Ski went to two different Andy Stanley events, one involving Groeschel, and he bragged about it. Drive 08 was the first event. Catalyst was another. Why did Ski hide the link to his Drive 08 pilgrimage?

KJV Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

The total content of the CORE website, created by a professional, is almost zero. If the sermons preached so far were so great, why not publish them as sound files or in print? Why not print the services if the Word has power?

Quotations

"Whoever comes to faith can only say that the Holy Spirit comes when and where and to whom He pleases at the time He pleases. He comes when and where He pleases, and also gives a person as many gifts as He pleases."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 665.

"That we may obtain this faith, the Ministry of Teaching the Gospel and administering the Sacraments was instituted. For through the Word and Sacraments, as through instruments, the Holy Ghost is given, who works faith, where and when it pleases God, in them that hear the Gospel, to wit, that God, not for our own merits, but for Christ's sake, justifies those who believe that they are received into grace for Christ's sake. They condemn the Anabaptists and others who think that the Holy Ghost comes to men without the external Word, through their own preparation and works."
Augsburg Confession, V. #1-2. The Ministry. Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 45. Tappert, p. 31. Heiser, p. 13.

"He [Paul] thus extols co-laborers that they [the Corinthians] may not despise the external Word as if they were not in need of it or knew it well enough. For although God might accomplish all things inwardly by the Spirit, without the external Word, He has no intention of doing so. He wants to employ preachers as assistants and co-laborers and to accomplish His purposes through their word when and where it pleases Him. Since, then, preachers have the office, name, and honor of being God's assistants, no man is so learned or holy that he may neglect or despise the poorest preaching; for he does not know when the hour will come in which God will perform His work in him through the preachers."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed. Ewald M. Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House 1959 III, p. 1118. W 17, II, 179; SL 12, 436; sermon #3572; 2 Corinthians 6:1-10.

Thus, for Luther, preaching and teaching were everything. He often grew tired of preaching and the congregation's indifferent reactions to it, but we are still reading his sermons 500+ years later.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Broadcasting The Means of Grace, Low Cost:Feel Fre...":

Jeske is trying to copy ..his latest venture is an e-Church.

Let's Do Lunch, Twice Today

2nd lunch of the day this time with Wildwood Film Fest folks. Check them out at http://www.wildwoodfilmfest.com/
43 minutes ago from Tweetie

Do you ever just get tired of it?
16 minutes ago from Tweetie
Pricey Executive Assistant

Today's going to be great. Meeting with Wildwood Film Festival today. Pretty neat opportunity. Mark your calendars April 17 at The CORE
about 6 hours ago from TweetDeck
Pastor Ski

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GJ - Has anyone audited the Travel and Entertainment bill at the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock?

When does original Bible study and preaching kick in? Are thousands of people going to attend the film festival and say, "I never knew WELS could be so much fun!" - and join?

The Popcorn Cathedral of Rock has produced nothing so far. Their big news is sub-letting to a film festival. Meanwhile they have consumed the incomes of widows and orphans.

The Apostles did not sit at the feet of Pharisees and sun-worshipers to see how they could market their message better. They preached and taught the Word in its truth and purity.

The next time Church and Chicanery tries to tell me they are reaching the lost, with this perversion perched one block from an 1100 member WELS church, I will quote my favorite philosopher, Bugs Bunny, "It is to laugh."

Some Elementary Ejukashun About Counting Lenten Days

High church beach ministry:
the trash can base of the altar is covered with a green plastic bag
to add dignity to the scene.
Apparently designer sunglasses were also worn.

The 40 days of Lent are counted from Ash Wednesday until Easter. In fact, Ash Wednesday was invented to make the days add up to 40.

The 40 days are an obvious parallel to Jesus' temptation, which is the Gospel lesson for Invocabit, The First Sunday in Lent. Some of us have retained the Latin names, just as the Irish once preserved our ancient classical heritage. See How the Irish Saved Civilization.

The Sundays are not counted as Lenten days, but they are Sundays in Lent. If it is not really Lent on Sunday, someone will have to explain why the paraments are purple.

If Rock and Roll Lutheran were high church, the bandannas for the Praise Band would be purple during Lent. And the Lil Rockers would wear purple pull-ups.

Other People's Money

Pastor Joe is thankful to WELS and Missouri for starting his Evangelical Covenant church. He thanked three WELS pastors--Miller, Voigt, and Freier--for their help in getting his church going. Yes, he also believes in using Other People's Money.

MEET PASTOR JOE

Hello!

I have been serving at Crossroads in a variety of roles since December 1999 and am happy to now be serving as Senior Pastor. As Crossroads Community Church moves into its sixteenth year of existence, we look back at the people who have led us, the founding families and the Pastors Rick Miller, Kelly Voigt and Mark Freier, and say thanks for getting us here.

Danny DiVito, that short, funny actor starred in a film called "Other People's Money." The theme of the movie, which I hope they show at Wildwood, is how to make a fortune on Other People's Money.

That is also the theme of Church and Change.

No one asked for a Popcorn Cathedral of Rock. A few rich people funded it for a time. Don't ask who or how much, because it is Other People's Money.

Jeske, Sorum, and Company are building a new Hope school, costing millions - with Other People's Money.

Jeske had his hand out for $250,000 for Time of Grace - and got it. Don't criticize: it is Other People's Money.

Parlow neeed a Lifecoach grant, so he got $50,000 for St. Mark Depere. That may sound silly, but it was from Other People's Money.

Rock and Roll Lutheran (in name only) got an Antioch grant for $20,000. They wanted $200,000. Perhaps they did not pray hard enough. The Catholic Church invented meatless Fridays, but Rock and Roll invented Lentless Sundays. If Buddy Holly's birthday falls on Easter this year, it is hard to figure which event will be celebrated.

Church and Chicaneries have a good scam going. Most of their money comes from faithful church members, who are guilt-tripped into buying Thrivent insurance or die hoping that their money is a Means of Grace. Where does all this loot go? Churches aimed at people who hate church. Their so-called evangelism theme is - We have an entertaining and exciting place for those who hate sermons, hate the cross (Willow Creek), hate traditional hymns, hate Creeds, and hate the liturgy. Read the Ski website for their message, which is anything but fidelity to the Word. Mockery of the Word is their theme.

And this is not new. Just as Ski's sermons are modeled after Craig Groeschel's, his website is a copy of CrossRoads in S. Lyons. I do not mean that the genius minds behind the CORE sat down to copy CrossRoads. It is just the same old Dreck decade after decade. Here are a few choice quotes from the WELS mission that is now Evangelical Covenant:

"Church music doesn't have to sound 'different.' It can sound just like the music people listen to every day. At Crossroads you won't find a pipe organ, but you will find great music appealing to a variety of tastes...Who says church has to be boring? In many of our services the Crossroads Drama Team makes us laugh or cry, and take a hard look at ourselves."
Crossroads Community Church,
Pastor Rick Miller (WELS),

"Would you be interested in a church that offers...Practical and Relevant Messages? Contemporary Music and Drama? Friendly People Who Are Interested in You? A Non-threatening Environment Where You Can Investigate a Relationship with God? Maybe Crossroads Is For You!...Targeted for September, '92, Sunday morning 'seeker' service designed to introduce Christianity in the most practical relevant way possible!"
Crossroads Community Church,
Pastor Rick Miller (WELS),

"PREPARING FOR HOLY COMMUNION. BECAUSE...I am very sorry for my sins...I trust only in Jesus as my Savior from sin...I receive from the Sacrament the forgiveness and strength I need to amend my life...I believe the words of my Lord that His Body and Blood are REALLY PRESENT in Holy Communion. Therefore I announce my desire to partake of the Lord's Supper:...
Crossroads Community Church,
Pastor Rick Miller (WELS),

"Since several brothers have asked about the status of Rick Miller, I provide the following information. Rick has asked for a release from his call at Huron Valley Lutheran High School in order to serve a group of people as their pastor and to help organize them as an independent Christian congregation. The group is composed of some former members of St. Peter Lutheran Church in Plymouth, of some former members of St. Paul Lutheran Church in Livonia, and some people who have left LC-MS churches. The group has stated that it has a different philosophy and style of ministry, which includes drama, contemporary music and a thematic form of worship and liturgy, which allows for greater personal participation by its female members. The group has also stated that it would like to retain fellowship relations with our Wisconsin Synod."
District President Robert Mueller,
President's Report to the Conferences,
Fall, 1991
Note: the congregation has women lectors
p. 2f.

"As an independent group it does not plan to use the name 'Lutheran' in its title. It will be known as The Crossroads Christian Church...For the present, Rick Miller is still a pastoral member of the WELS...At that time [January 31, 1992, submission of a constitution] the fellowship question will be determined on the basis of the group's doctrinal statements and practices."
District President Robert Mueller,
President's Report to the Conferences,
Fall, 1991
p. 3.

"Several of our brothers have been warning us to be careful about the leaven of The Church Growth Movement and the insidious Reformed doctrine contained within. Not a few of us have heard their warning and have thought to counter the danger by saying we will weed out the erroneous material and use only that which is proper and beneficial to the Lord's work in our congregations. Fellow-shepherds, there is some evidence to show that that is exactly what the devils wants us to think. That seems to be used to lull us and our members into sleep, and without our intending it, the soul-harming false doctrines creep in undetected, under the guise of religious printed materials and programs."
Michigan District President Robert Mueller, (WELS),
"President's Report to the Conferences, Spring, 1991,
p. 2.

"Crossroads Community Church. Comfortable Contemporary Creative Services Sunday Evenings 6 pm South Lyon High School Pontiac Trail and Eleven Mile (313) 591-4087
Newspaper ad Crossroads, Pastor Rick Miller (WELS)
See District President Mueller's report

"You may not have noticed, but Crossroads has changed its name!...Why the change [from Crossroads Christian Church]? First, we were told that the original name implied a denominational affiliation. Also, we believe that the 'community' label identifies us more closely with the philosophy of ministry at Willow Creek Community Church. We want to begin referring to ourselves more and more as a 'community' of fully devoted followers of Jesus."
Pastor Rick Miller, (WELS),
Crossroads Community Church,
News and Information for January, 1992,
p. 1.

"CROSSROADS CALLS SECOND PASTOR. On January 5th, Crossroads extended a call to Kelly Voigt, currently pastor of a mission church in Tallahassee...Kelly would be responsible for heading up outreach activities and the preparation needed before Seeker Services can begin. He would be the speaker for the Seeker Services, while Pastor Rick would continue delivering the New Community messages."
Pastor Rick Miller, (WELS),
Crossroads Community Church,
News and Information for February, 1992,
Seeker Services are endorsed by Pastor Robert Hartman,
Pastor Jim Huebner, in the evangelism seminar video tape.
p. 1.
See Indianapolis Star story on Dan Kelm.

"PHILOSOPHY OF MINISTRY AT CROSSROADS...Conduct seeker services... Provide small group leadership. At Crossroads, as people come to know Jesus they are encouraged to participate in groups of 8 to 10 people who meet weekly for 2 years of fellowship, holding one another accountable, discipleship training, encouragement and support. 1 Thess. 5:11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up."
Pastor Rick Miller, (WELS),
Crossroads Community Church,
1 Thessalonians 5:11.

"There is no Church Growth Movement Program in our synod. Our church body is opposed to the false theology of the Church Growth Movement. We have no programs inside or outside the budget with that name. Nor do we have any programs with a different name which utilize Church Growth theology."
Wayne D. Mueller, Administrator for the BPS, WELS,
"A Response to 'Saving Souls vs. New Programs,'"
The Northwestern Lutheran, November 1, 1991,
February 1, 1992
p. 50.

"There may be pastors or congregations which use methodology which church growth people use. This does not mean they have adopted the theology of the Church Growth Movement. Our Lutheran Confessions allow complete freedom among our churches in methodology that does not conflict with the gospel."
Wayne D. Mueller, Administrator, Parish Services,
"A Response to 'Saving Souls' vs.'New Programs,'"
The Northwestern Lutheran,
February 1, 1992
p. 50.

Origin of the Seeker Service (see Crossroads Community): "When he challenged them to invent a service that would induce their friends to attend, they suggested including contemporary music, dramatic sketches and sermons about problems that are relevant to teen-agers--parents, peer pressure and homework."
WELS Evangelism Workshop IV,
LOCATING THE LOST,
Tom Valeo,
"Market Wise Pastor Strikes Deep Chords with Soft-Sell Pitch,"
Crain's Chicago Business, January 16, 1989
p. C-2.

"Several churches have found a creative and effective way of maintaining an active membership from year to year. Basically, they ask their members--each year--if they wish to continue as members for the coming year...Good Shepherd Lutheran Church (Irvine, CA) also has a 'Covenant of Membership' card. On their 'Covenant Sunday' Pastor Jim Hale encourages persons to come forward in the service and place their card on the altar."
Win Arn,
Win Arn Growth Report, copyright, 1986
709 E Colorado Blvd
Pasadena, CA 91101
818-449-4400
Same plan at Crossroads Community Church,

Luther on the Cross

"If, here upon earth, the body is unwilling, not capable of grace and Christ's leading, it must bear the Spirit, upon which Christ rides, who trains it and leads it along by the power of grace, received through Christ. The colt, ridden by Christ, upon which no one ever rode, is the willing spirit, whom no one before could make willing, tame or ready, save Christ by His grace. However, the sack carrier, the burden-bearer, the old Adam, is the flesh, which goes riderless without Christ; it must for this reason bear the cross and remain a beast of burden."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 53. First Sunday in Advent Matthew 21:1-9.

"But when our good work is followed by persecution, let us rejoice and firmly believe that it is pleasing to God; indeed, then let us be assured that it comes from God, for whatever is of God is bound to be crucified by the world. As long as it does not bring the cross, that is, as long as it does not bring shame and contempt as we patiently continue in it, it cannot be esteemed as a divine work since even the Son of God was not free from it--(suffering for the sake of the good He did) --but left us an example in this. He Himself tells us in Matthew 5:10, 12: 'Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake.. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven.'"
Commentary on Romans, trans. J. Theodore Mueller, Grand Rapids: Kregel Publications, 1976, p. 55. Matthew 5: 10, 12.; Romans 2:6-10

"On the other hand, we are outwardly oppressed with the cross and sufferings, and with the persecution and torments of the world and the devil, as with the weight of heavy stone upon us, subduing our old sinful nature and checking us against antagonizing the Spirit and committing other sins."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VIII, p. 145. Sixth Sunday after Trinity, Romans 6:6 John 16:20 –

"Such people, however, do not understand divine things, they think they will suddenly enter death with Christ, whom they have never learned to know except in words. Thus was Peter also disposed, but he stood before Christ like a rabbit before one beating a drum. Notice, how the old Adam lacks courage when under the cross! The new man, however, can indeed persevere through grace."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed. John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 85. Third Sunday after Easter John 16:16-23

"But wine is sharp and signifies the holy cross that immediately follows. A Christian need not look for his cross, it is always on his back. For he thinks as St. Paul says, 2 Timothy 3:12: 'All that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.' This is the court-color in this kingdom. Whoever is ashamed of the color, does not belong to this king."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, V, p. 30. Thirteenth Sunday after Trinity, Luke 10:23-37; 2 Timothy 3:12

"Observe, God and men proceed in contrary ways. Men set on first that which is best, afterward that which is worse. God first gives the cross and affliction, then honor and blessedness. This is because men seek to preserve the old man; on which account they instruct us to keep the Law by works, and offer promises great and sweet...But God first of all terrifies the conscience, sets on miserable wine, in fact nothing but water; then, however, He consoles us with the promises of the Gospel which endure forever."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 69. Second Sunday after Epiphany, John 2:1-11.

"Not only is Christ hidden from the world, but a still harder thing is it that in such trials Christ conceals himself even from His church, and acts as if he had forgotten, aye, had entirely forsaken and rejected it,since He permits it to be oppressed under the cross and subjected to all the cruelty of the world, while its enemies boast, glory and rejoice over it, as we shall hear in the next Gospel."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 67. Second Sunday after Easter John 10:11-16.

"Not only is Christ hidden from the world, but a still harder thing is it that in such trials Christ conceals himself even from His church, and acts as if He had forgotten, aye, had entirely forsaken and rejected it,since He permits it to be oppressed under the cross and subjected to all the cruelty of the world, while its enemies boast, glory and rejoice over it, as we shall hear in the next Gospel."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 67. Second Sunday after Easter John 10:11-16.

"If we would be Christians, we must surely expect and count on having the devil, together with all his angels and the world, as our enemies. They all will bring misfortune and sorrow on us For where the Word of God is preached, accepted, or believed, and where it produces fruit, the dear, holy cross cannot be wanting."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, I, p. 357. Large Catechism

"O Lord, look down from heaven, behold And let Thy pity waken; How few are we within Thy fold, Thy saints by men forsaken! True faith seems quenched on every hand, Men suffer not Thy Word to stand; Dark times have us overtaken. (2) With fraud which they themselves invent Thy truth they have confounded; Their hearts are not with one consent On Thy pure doctrine grounded. While they parade with outward show, They lead the people to and fro, In error's maze astounded. (3) May God root out all heresy And of false teachers rid us Who proudly say: 'Now, where is he That shall our speech forbid us? By right or might we shall prevail; What we determine cannot fail; We own no lord and master. (5) As silver tried by fire is pure From all adulteration So through God's Word shall men endure Each trial and temptation. Its light beams brighter through the cross, And purified from human dross, It shines thru every nation."
The Lutheran Hymnal, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1941, Hymn #260. Psalm 12.

"But now, since the prince of this world and the Holy Spirit, the kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of the devil, are directly opposed to one another, and the Holy Spirit is not willing that anyone should parade his own deeds and praise himself on account of them, the holy cross must soon follow. The world will not consent to be reprimanded for its blindness. Therefore one must willingly submit and suffer persecution. If we have the right kind of faith in our hearts, we must also open our mouths and confess righteousness and make known sin. Likewise we must condemn and punish the doings of this world and make it known that everything it undertakes, is damned."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 120. Fourth Sunday after Easter John 16:5-15.

"The deeper a person is sunk in sadness and emotional upheavals, the better he serves as an instrument of Satan. For our emotions are instruments through which he gets into us and works in us if we do not watch our step. It is easy to water where it is wet. Where the fence is dilapidated, it is easy to get across. So Satan has easy access where there is sadness. Therefore one must pray and associate with godly people."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, III, p. 1243. 1532

"This a true definition of marriage: Marriage is the God-appointed and legitimate union of man and woman in the hope of having children or at least for the purpose of avoiding fornication and sin and living to the glory of God. The ultimate purpose is to obey God, to find aid and counsel against sin; to call upon God; to seek, love, and educate children for the glory of God; to live with one's wife in the fear of God and to bear the cross; but if there are no children, nevertheless to live with one's wife in contentment; and to avoid all lewdness with others."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 884. Genesis 24:1-4.

"This is a true definition of marriage: Marriage is the God-appointed and legitimate union of man and woman in the hope of having children or at least for the purpose of avoiding fornication and sin and living to the glory of God. The ultimate purpose is to obey God, to find aid and counsel against sin; to call upon God; to seek, love, and educate children for the glory of God; to live with one's wife in the fear of God and to bear the cross; but if there are no children, nevertheless to live with one's wife in contentment; and to avoid all lewdness with others."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols. ed. Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 884. Genesis 24:1-4

"Human works and doctrines at all times yield much revenue and carnal gain, while the doctrines of God and the work of Christ bring the cross, poverty, ignominy, and all kinds of calamity, which the holiness of Herod cannot endure. Thus it happens always, that they who have ensnared and oppressed the poor with an erring conscience and with human doctrines, do not like to hear that poor, miserable consciences receive instruction, attain a right understanding, and seek the simple pure Word of God and faith."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 376. Epiphany Matthew 2:1-12.

"The apostle says 'our,' 'our sins;' not his own sin, not the sins of unbelievers. Purification is not for, and cannot profit, him who does not believe. Nor did Christ effect the cleansing by our free-will, our reason or power, our works, our contrition or repentance, these all being worthless in the sight of God; he effects it by himself. And how? By taking our sins upon himself on the holy cross, as Isaiah 53:6 tells us."
Sermons of Martin Luther, ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VI, p. 180. Hebrews 1:1-12; Hebrews 1:3;

"This, mark you, is the peace of the cross, the peace of God, peace of conscience, Christian peace, which gives us even external calm, which makes us satisfied with all men and unwilling to disturb any. Reason cannot understand how there can be pleasure in crosses, and peace in disquietude; it cannot find these. Such peace is the work of God, and none can understand it until it has been experienced."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VI, p. 111. Fourth Sunday in Advent, Philippians 4:7.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Other People's Money":

Pastor Jackson, I disagree with your blog (especially the tone) on many occasions.

However, I am genuinely sorry about your wife's health concerns and I am truly thankful her tests came out well. I'm writing to let you know that, and to add that I am absolutely appalled by the last poster's comment ("will your wife be going in for more testing soon?")....

I assume you have genuine Christian sympathy for Pastor Stolzenburg (Columbus) upon the death of his wife earlier this week. She was a fine Christian lady.

God bless you and your family.

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GJ - Which wife? Floyd Luther Stolzenburg did not have a Scriptural divorce, as he claimed, a false assertion repeated by WELS pastors. I was genuinely sorry for the trials he imposed on his previous congregations, his first wife, his children, and the marriages he destroyed. One of his conservative associates said, "He betrayed his wife, his children, his congregation, and his conservative friends." He did not leave Missouri voluntarily but was kicked out by his Missiouri District President, who described the reasons for Floyd's defenestration. Jack Preus confirmed the same, but WELS faked innocense.

If his second wife died of cancer, then I am very sorry for that. I knew her from St. Paul's in Germantown. I don't wish disease on anyone. Recently someone hoped for the day when I "finally died," expressing the thought that there would be universal relief. I don't recall any objections posted.

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Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "Other People's Money":

"The Catholic Church invented meatless Fridays, but Rock and Roll invented Lentless Sundays. If Buddy Holly's birthday falls on Easter this year, it is hard to figure which event will be celebrated."

Uhh...The Lutheran Church has celebrated "Lentless Sundays" for hundreds of years. That is why the 46 days of Lent are only counted as 40.

GJ - As in "Invocabit - The First Sunday in Lent," etc? Mouse is confusing the Easter-y quality of Sunday always being noted, even in Lent. Joe Krohn lamented his Rock and Roll Church not celebrating Lent. I am sure he will elaborate on it in great detail in his defensive blog. Does that mean the Rockers and Lil Rockers will not have to abstain from wearing metal piercings during the Holy Season? I am sure the Holy Father in Rome--or Austin--would be curious.

If you think I am kidding about the Lil Rockers, check out this link. That strikes me as something a shopping mall would do to be cute, but I objected to Bible Babes at another church.

Rock and Roll Mouse, performing in his subdued Lenten livery.


Lil Rockers from Doebler's and Patterson's Rock and Roll Church. Why indulge in satire when all I have to do is print the news?

Kenneth Schmidt has left a new comment on your post "Other People's Money":

"Most of their money comes from faithful church members, who are guilt-tripped into buying Thrivent insurance or die hoping that their money is a Means of Grace."

I laughed so hard at that sentence that I nearly spat my tea across the room! Funny and true! That whole paragraph was masterful.

Ski's Editor Has Been Discovered

Spelling does not count - at the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

Pricey executive assistant:
almost 11pm. been working since 9:30 this morning. calling it a night and leaving my computer in the office - could be rough withdrawl! (sic)
about 9 hours ago from TweetDeck

"How did the Texas cowboy speak?"

"With drawl."

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Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "Ski's Editor Has Been Discovered":

Greg, I love it when you show the world what a jerk you really are.

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GJ - No, that's a feature starring the humorless Mouse. I know that a little joke will elicit another cowardly attack from Mouse, hiding in the tall grass, terrified of revealing his secret identity, anxious to indulge in puerile name-calling.

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Today's going to be great. Meeting with Wildwood Film Festival today. Pretty neat opportunity. Mark your calendars April 17 at The CORE
42 minutes ago from TweetDeck
pastorski

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GJ -

There's a church in the valley leased by Wildwood
No lovelier spot in A-town
No place is so dear to my childhood
As the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

(Oh, come, come, come, come)

Come to the church leased by Wildwood
Oh, come to the church in A-town
No spot is so dear to my childhood
As the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

How sweet on a clear Sabbath morning
To listen to a Rock and Roll band
Its tones so loudly are calling
To the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

(Oh, come, come, come, come)

Come to the church leased by Wildwood
Oh, come to the church in A-town,
No spot is so dear to my childhood
As the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

There, close by the church in old A-town
Lies the doctrine I loved so well
We buried her beside the Willow Creek,
Cause we thought Schwaermer doctrine was swell.

(Oh, come, come, come, come)

Come to the church leased by Wildwood
Oh, come to the church in A-town.
No spot is so dear to my childhood
As the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.

There, close by the side of Craig Groeschel,
Near Driscoll, Stetzer, Stanley, and Sweet,
When they bury the last Lutheran synod,
Church and Change will shout, "That's neat!"

(Oh, come, come, come, come)

Come to the church leased by Wildwood
Oh, come to the church in A-town
No spot is so dear to my childhood
As the Popcorn Cathedral of Rock.


Stop by for the entertainment, coffee, and WiFi.
Stay for the Craig Groeschel sermons.


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