Tuesday, January 22, 2008

LutherQuest (sic) Fulminating for Universal Objective Justification



UOJ Stormtroopers Reason with a Layman.


The word sic is Latin for thus, meaning - that is their error not mine. LutherQuest (sic) is anything but a quest for Luther.

The sign of a weak argument is fulmination. False teachers literally foam at the mouth when they are challenged with God's Word, Luther, and the Confessions. Brett Meyer, a layman, chose to ask LQ denizens about their robotic advocacy of justification without faith.

A Missouri Synod pastor posted this on LQ:

Brett,

Your words are very frightening to me. Why? Because I fear that you are leading people to believe that there is no forgiveness for people...

You also frighten me, because you are flat-out lying about Rev. Preus' position on justification. Here are his words, from the beginning of his forward to Herman Preus' paper....


The same pastor used Methinks on one of his signed LQ posts at the same time an anonymous poster used Methinks on Ichabod while accusing me of being a follower of Osiander! That could be a coincidence, but I did find it odd that a pastor in his prophetic role of rooting out false doctrine would make a charge anonymously, whatever his name might be. UOJ Stormtroopers have their own rules, I have seen.

Brett Meyer has been excruciatingly polite with these people.

To clarify matters about Rolf Preus - he is on both sides of the issue. He has agreed with the Book of Concord and swung over to UOJ again. He asked for and received a rough draft of the justification chapter of Thy Strong Word. He responded by email that he agreed with it. Subsequently, before the book was available, Rolf falsely declared on LQ that he had my book, and denounced it. As I recall, he publicly agreed with justification by faith again, but doubled back on his own words.

A dentist posted some good comments on LQ about the weakness and falsity of UOJ. He persisted for a long time. Then he reappeared to rescind all of his previous posts. He sounded pulpit-whipped to me.

If the UOJ Stormtroopers on LQ had a case, they would not need to be so nasty to a layman, resorting to name calling and false accusations. Their defense of forgiveness without faith can be summarized as:
1. Read our previous posts.
2. Read Walther and his disciples.
3. Ignore Luther, the Book of Concord, and historic Christianity.