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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "From WELS - The CORE - Mixed Message on Reaching t...":
I can see why Ski would have a bunch of picks of attractive women on his Facebook page. Let's face it. The man is sexy AND a good theologian.
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GJ - You are pranking us, right?
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Party in the MLS - Sharing from the Ski Wall of Fa...":
Right, because and who is making the qualifications for an idiot here? You are. Do you have any grounds to do so? No.
It's like this:
If you are a white person and you post a picture of you with a black person than you are an idiot. (Please note this is only for arguments sake, I'm not racist)
Right. Why am I an idiot? Oh, because you made up an arbitrary rule because for whatever reason you get to say what goes.
Logical fallacy? I think so. Has pastor Ski posted any sinful pictures? No. Has he violated anything biblical? No.
So maybe they're not the most morally upstanding people but if you were to take a picture with you're friend who is just as bad would Jacko get up in arms about it? I bet not.
Both of you have simply no ground to stand on.
And Jacko I think it's just plain creepy that you're Facebook stalking Ski.
And you're wrong about the Ad Hominem thing too. You can strike off the bat using ad hominem to discredit someone before they (sic) can make an argument; what Jacko is doing. [GJ - To capitalize or not to captialize, there's the rub. Why not do both and let the reader decide?]
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GJ - Does the Wisconsin Synod have anyone who understands web publishing? The WELS.net site was a disaster and still is. The server seems to have devoured the November issue of Forward in Chicanery.
Mr. Leyrer, a product of the system, shows an abysmal ignorance of Facebook, a series of web pages. I thought the younger generation was hip on computers. Perhaps they teach oogling rather than Googling.
Reading web pages for information is called research. Facebook pages are available when people open them for a) friends, b) friends of friends, or c) everyone with an account. Facebook users are saying, with their photos, "This is what matters to me." Visitors to that den of popcorn and rock, The CORE, tell me that Ski carries on about all the celebrity photos he has posted in his office. Apparently, they are clothed poses.
I find Leyrer adopting the same Antinomian attitude which prevailed in Columbus, Ohio. It was a sin to consider clergy adultery and divorce wrong. Posing with a tart on Facebook is virtuous, edgy, and doing everything-short-of-sin to reach entertainers who extol homosexuality.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Party in the MLS - Sharing from the Ski Wall of Fa...":
Pranking you? No way! Ski's a complete double threat - a fine looking man AND a theologian of profound depth. No wonder the ladies like him! It's like someone has spliced together the DNA of Martin Chemnitz and Brad Pitt.
Seriously.
No, seriously.
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GJ - I agree: Martin Chemnitz' abs and Brad Pitt's theological acumen.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Party in the MLS - Sharing from the Ski Wall of Fa...":
Oh cute Jacko! You called me a product of the system. That is so endearing. Wait a minute... didn't you go to MLC AND the WLS? I think we have a winner! You sir, are just as much a "product" as I am.
Yeah, using the web to find information is research. Using the web to find pictures of people you want to slander is called being creepy.
Even if you consider Ski's pictures to be a sin it's a good thing you contacted him in a loving manner to take them down first before posting them to your blog and getting everyone else involved, isn't that right Jacko?
OH WAIT. YOU DIDN'T.
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GJ - I went to accredited schools. I learned a lot about computers and the English language. Wisconsin teaches its disciples to be Antinomian deceivers, full of themselves, WELS without water, clouds without rain, tossed by every wind of doctrine.
There is an interesting root to the verb "publish." It is "public." If someone witnessed Ski waving around a girlie magazine and bragging about the topless girl from a confirmation class, he would need to go to Ski in private. However, when someone has made public his false doctrine (mindlessly channeling Groeschel) and his pride in posing with pop-tarts, Ski can be admonished in public.
I do not need to admonish - just show the evidence. The way things disappear after showing up on Ichabod is legendary. What are they ashamed of?
The Eighth Commandment Stormtroopers (day-shift UOJ Stormtroopers) never go to me privately. No, they want to publish their blubbering nonsense on a blog read around the world. That is especially true for people who only have three or four readers, all with the same last name.
"Oh, isn't our boy smart. What did he mean to say, dear? Should we leave him in Europe a few more years until he learns English? Good, I want to use his room for sewing and LWR packages. Why does it still smell like burnt rope? I hope that goes away soon."
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Party in the MLS - Sharing from the Ski Wall of Fa...":
Wow, bravo Jacko, hit the nail on the head with that one.
The thing is though, that Facebook pictures aren't a public thing. Publishing would imply that they were meant for EVERYONE to see. Lot's (sic) of people don't have Facebook and what you have done is taken the pictures off Facebook and maliciously uploaded them onto your blog. Smells like copyright infringement to me.
"Just showing the evidence" isn't any better. If I find my neighbor sleeping with a woman other than his wife and then publish a picture of it I'm just "showing the evidence" right? Yeah, you're doing the same thing.
I'm still trying to find the false doctrine of pictures with celebrities too.
And I'm not in Europe anymore. Back in the U.S.A. it was just paining me to be so far away from you Jacko.
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GJ - I am surprised extradition worked so fast.
Pastor Tim closed down his photo albums. Until then they were web pages "open to everyone." Please read the instructions. Nevertheless, he left his bug-eyed pose with Katy Perry on his main page. When did you sign on as his attorney? I hope you do not charge anything, because your legal advice in on par with your grammar. Violation of a copyright would include selling a protected photo for financial gain. Those photos are marked.
That old heresiarch, Stadler, tried to copyright his false doctrine, as if no one could copy it and discuss his protected words. No one tried to make money from it, although there is a lot of money in false doctrine. Just ask Perish Services.
"Maliciously"? Now you are judging motivation and thoughts, a strange and wonderful ability. Apparently your Divine Nature is not limited by your Human Nature.
If you can find a woman to explain it to you, ask what it implies when a married guy has to pose with a number of young women of scarce talent, momentary celebrity, and limited clothing. Add to that the position of pastor. There are passages about loose women in Proverbs and qualifications for a minister in the pastoral epistles. They will shed some light on your questions.
Ski and Glende want to change WELS in Fox Valley. They have done that.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Party in the MLS - Sharing from the Ski Wall of Fa...":
Poor MJ Leyrer,
I had a hard time following his um and so because and who kind of writing. Clarity my friend.
I showed the pictures of Glende and Ski to my wife. I too have occasion to take photos with celebs. I asked her if I posted a picture of a young tart, like the pics our astute and well adjusted pastors show on their Facebook pages, if she would be offended. Yes was the answer. I asked if she thought it prudent. No was the answer. Oh, nice comment by Glende's wife by the way. Encourage and stand by your man Holly. Never mind any sort of rebuke.
I asked a young lady who is reformed and a Marine Chaplin what she thought. She thought it odd, but also figured, "Well if someone feels that the pastor is someone they can relate to, then it's o.k. It may bring someone closer to Christ." Source considered.
I asked a man in his 30's who is ELCA and son of an ELCA minister what he thought. He felt that since many congregations are growing old and shrinking in numbers - this is the reason why your are seeing the trend to gravitate toward "vapid pop-style worship" tendencies that lack any depth. He noted that he disagrees with this and notes the same of his theologically liberal father.
So gone is any objective means to measure any sort of propriety in actions and display of integrity. Gone is the Bible. Our pastors should be above reproach and not moving toward the edge and appear as though they are snugging up to a saucy tart. Gone are the days of being bound by an accountability that is higher than that of your average Joe in your congregation. Now it is anything at anytime for any reason and damned be anyone to challenge "Tyrant" in the photo.
I like how are young collegians are trying to justify these self absorbed reverends with claiming that they are not sinning. Read some Lutheran theology for once kids. All we do is sin. Nothing we do is without the stain and stench of sin to paraphrase Luther. They seem to be throwing this intentionally in the faces of the week willed circuit and district presidents, who see them "Follow the letter of the law, but not the spirit of it." I think they are just waiting to get some real and justified response from the COP. It almost seems as though they are saying, "Bring it on baby." Face it, they have their minions and would likely be able to self support if anything was done. Then being free of any sort of leadership, they could do anything they pleased then. I think this scares the life out of many leaders in WELS who have allowed this to go so far.
