Yellow highlights are for known Shrinkers.
Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Follows ELCA and Pentecostals in Women's Libe...":
If you can wade through this tripe without laughing you just might be WELS
http://www.charis.wlc.edu/publications/charis_summer04/wendland.pdf
Does the title scream Confessional Lutheran? No.
202a.... WELS “Women Leaders–No Longer an Oxymoron”–Kathie Wendland
(http://www.churchandchange.org/home/2384/2384/CanCprogram.Web.pdf) page 8.
WOMEN’S LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE TO BE HELD JULY 7, 2007
All WELS women are invited to attend the 2007 National WELS Women’s Leadership Conference, to be held July 7 at Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, in Mequon, Wis. The conference will encourage and edify WELS women through discussions, skits, worship, and the introduction of a new Bible study, “Heirs Together—Serving Together.” The keynote discussion titled “A leader . . . Who? Me?” will be led by Kathie Wendland, women's Bible study writer and leader.
Other conference speakers include
- Bruce Becker, Board for Parish Services;
- Richard Gurgel, Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary;
- Dave Kehl, Commission on Adult Discipleship;
- Sarah Owens, Wisconsin Lutheran Institutional Ministries; and
- Jane Schlenvogt, Westside Christian School.
For more information or to register, contact 800-567-8669 or visit www.wels.net/jump/womenconf.
(http://www.wels.net/cgibin/
site.pl?2617&collectionID=1499&contentID=70941)
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GJ - I kept telling people that WELS would have women pastors before Missouri. Now SP Quiche-nik is working hard to catch up.
Women's lib and gay lib go hoof-in-claw, so start picking your pink tutu for future graduation ceremonies.
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KJV 1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
NIV 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
NIB 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
RSV 1 Timothy 2:12 I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
NRS 1 Timothy 2:12 I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent.
NKJ 1 Timothy 2:12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
YLT 1 Timothy 2:12 and a woman I do not suffer to teach, nor to rule a husband, but to be in quietness,
VUL 1 Timothy 2:12 docere autem mulieri non permitto neque dominari in virum sed esse in silentio
ELB 1 Timothy 2:12 Ich erlaube aber einer Frau nicht zu lehren, auch nicht über den Mann zu herrschen, sondern ich will, daß sie sich in der Stille halte,
LUO 1 Timothy 2:12 Einem Weibe aber gestatte ich nicht, daß sie lehre, auch nicht, daß sie des Mannes Herr sei, sondern stille sei.
SCH 1 Timothy 2:12 Einer Frau aber gestatte ich das Lehren nicht, auch nicht daß sie über den Mann herrsche, sondern sie soll sich still verhalten.
NLT 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.
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GJ - The Greek has a clear "but" as an explanation and additional emphasis. This was not Paul's personal opinion, but an application of God's Word. WELS' long history of mocking the Word, as shown by yet another First VP (Wayne Mueller before, now James Huebner) is bearing fruit in the feminist/Chicanery leadership at Mequon.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Bra-Burners and the Spineless Leaders Who Ena...":
Note how the NIV changed God's Word to make teach and usurp authority mean they can't teach a man or usurp authority over a man. The KJV uses the word 'nor' (neither or) to mean they can't teach in the church. (period) They can't usurp authority over the man in the church. (period)
1 Timothy 2:11-12 (KJV)
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:11-12 (NIV)
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man: she must be silent.
Here are some quotes from Luther which speak to the subject of women's roles in the church.
"As St. Paul says in Gal. 3:28, you must pay no attention to distinctions when you want to look at Christians. You must not say: “This is a man or a woman; this is a servant or a master; this person is old or young.” They are all alike and only a spiritual people. Therefore they are all priests. All may proclaim God’s Word, except that, as St. Paul teaches in 1 Cor. 14:34, women should not speak in the congregation. They should let the men preach, because God commands them to be obedient to their husbands. God does not interfere with the arrangement. But he makes no distinction in the matter of authority." Page 8, first full paragraph
"But in the New Testament the Holy Spirit, speaking through St. Paul, ordained that women
should be silent in the churches and assemblies [I Cor. 14:34], and said that this is the Lord’s commandment. Yet he knew that previously Joel [2:28 f.] had proclaimed that God would pour out his Spirit also on handmaidens. Furthermore, the four daughters of Philip prophesied (Acts 21[:9]). But in the congregations or churches where there is a ministry women are to be silent and not preach [I Tim. 2:12]. Otherwise they may pray, sing, praise, and say “Amen,” and read at home, teach one another, exhort, comfort, and interpret the Scriptures as best they can." Page 15, first paragraph
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/djw/LutherGenderMinistry.pdf
WELS teaches now that God's Word doesn't teach until it's read by a duly appointed man, "...we believe that antiphonal worship is a proclamation or reading of God's inspired word and is not considered to be 'teaching' the congregation. Reading of scripture as a congregation is an activity to be encouraged in worship. Teaching of scripture is an activity that the Lord in His Word has clearly reserved for the Pastor or other duly appointed official man of the congregation."
Holy Trinity Lutheran Church, WELS
