Monday, September 9, 2019

Mark Jeske's Change or Die! Conference, 2019
Proves the ELCA Takeover of Lutherdom.
Objective Justification Began the March of Gay Ordination in LCMS and WELS

All roads lead to and from Objective Justification, and Jungkuntz is the marker along the way to apostasy.

 Who invited Heidi Neumark as a featured speaker?


Roger Zehms told me how Jungkuntz was revealed as a liberal apostate and removed from the faculty of tiny Northwestern College (WELS). This 2011 essay about Jungkuntz gives a lot of background on Jungkuntz, who converted his defenestration from NWC into a career with liberal Missouri and The ALC.

A little leaven goes a long way, as any baker will say, in agreement with Jesus and Paul. Objective Justification was not the published doctrine of Missouri or WELS at the beginning - Justification by Faith was, as shown by The Path to Understanding Justification.

Richard Jungkuntz is important for Lutheran history because he chaired the board of Seminex, the LCMS "seminary in exile" after Synod President Jack Preus sent them packing. Seminex and Jungkuntz were significant for two reasons:

  1. Deppe, the known gay professor, taught at Seminex and remained with the faculty cadre when it joined Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago (LCA, now ELCA and failing).
  2. Jungkuntz chaired the Seminex board, and the school became the official seminary for the gay Metropolitan Community Church, a small sect organized in 1968 specifically for gay clergy and members. 
 ELCA formed in 1987, its quotas and activism leading to the 2009 vote for gay ordination and marriage.

 Liz Eaton became the new ELCA Presiding Bishop in 2013, and ELCA became the new Metropolitan Community Church, helped by such initial efforts as Lutherans Concerned and Extraordinary Lutheran Ministries.
 On the WELS side, Jeske has been the leader of WELS Church and Change, with bros - like Bruce Becker , John Parlow, Don Patterson, Paul Kelm, John Lawrenz, Ski, and other rascals. SP Mark Schroeder began his ministry by writing an article for Church and Change.
 2015 Change or Die Conference: ELCA, LCMS, WELS.

Pops Jeske worked on the NIV Bible, brother Tom Jeske promoted the New NIV - but the Mark Jeske leaven was not limited to WELS Church and Change. Mark and Avoid also worked with the Siebert Foundation to promote his Change or Die! Pan-Lutheran Conferences.

2019 Change or Die Conference


Catastrophic losses in ELCA-WELS-LCMS-ELS made Change or Die! sound more like Change and Die!!!


Let's Look at the Numbers -




  1. One speaker is the president of Concordia, St. Louis - LCMS. Objective Justification.
  2. The other speaker is a lady pastor, ELCA, highly regarded for being a gay activist for decades. Objective Justification.




Steerage Committee -

  • Two are ELCA bishop's staff members. Objective Justification.
  • Two are WELS Church and Change pioneers, Parlow and Becker, with a D.Min. in Church Growth. Objective Justification.
  • Two are LCMS pastors. Objective Justification.

More Data Here - Expanded from the foundations minimal information.

Read the Siebert Foundation registration form -

"Please select if you require a gluten-free or vegetarian meal for lunch.

Gender identification - Male, Female, Other."

Our 2019 Planning Commitee (sic) consists of:

Rev. Walter BairesELCA South Central Synod of Wisconsin
Rev. D.Min. Bruce Becker, WELS, Time of Grace Ministry
Rev. Heidi BorkenhagenELCA Grace Lutheran Church, Grafton. "RIC – What is (sic) needs to be done - complete an Affirmation/Welcome statement (to be completed by committee formed), hold Adult Forums on this throughout the year (options for meeting: – review what Bible does and doesn’t say; have families come in to discuss this; Bill Beyer 1st openly gay pastor in area come talk). Would be looking to have this completed by end of 2019 to have church vote on this at annual meeting. Committee formed could be short term to long term, based on what the committee chooses to do. Council recommends moving forward with presenting information to church leading to vote by end of the year. Pastor Paul, Linda 2nd, approved. Pastor Heidi will head up committee and start getting Adult Forums plan."
Michelle Burmeister, Siebert Lutheran Foundation
Gretchen Jameson, Concordia University
Charlotte John-Gomez, Siebert Lutheran Foundation
Rev. D.Min. John Parlow, WELS, St. Mark Lutheran Church, De Pere
Rev. Randy Raasch, First Immanuel Lutheran Church, Cedarburg - LCMS
Rev. Matthew ShortELCA Greater Milwaukee Synod
Rev. Tom Wink, Retired, LCMS Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church, Pewaukee
ELCA pastor Nadia - the future of WELS and LCMS. The ELS and CLC (sic) will already be gone.