Thugs Rule WELS, So No Need For Masochists To Join The Episcopal Church

This law firm stole the property and endowment of Historic St. John in Milwaukee (former WELS)
so WELS could keep it empty, imitating the Episcopal Church in Milwaukee.

The abusive Wisconsin Sect tries so hard to prove me right. I recall warning Bishop Suffragen Steve Spencer that Gurgle was not necessarily the dream candidate for Synod President. After blowing through another windfall (The Schwan Indulgence), Gurgle had to be ushered out of office. 

The next dream candidate, Mark Schroeder, took even less time to make his predecessor look like Martin Chemnitz. Only Mark Schroeder could co-author a letter with future felon Joel Hochmuth condemning the homosexual libertines in ELCA, then publicly absolve Hochmuth for his hundreds of crimes against boys, who were raped so Joel could have his stash of photos and videos at WELS headquarters and at home.

The Edge of Edginess

I remember the WELS that denied being involved with the Church Growth Movement, of such there was none, according to WELS CG leader Wayne Mueller. At least they were ashamed of their vices in those golden years of Carl Mische, the Synod President who got away with covering up two murders - and God only knows what else.

Now the thugs are out of the closet, no longer hiding their evil desire to destroy Lutheran doctrine and worship. Compare and contrast - WELS Pastor Paul Rydecki wanted to discuss and debate justification by faith. Though promising to do so, Mark Schroeder's pal Jon-Boy Buchholz condemned Rydecki as a false teacher, kicked the congregation out of WELS, and foreclosed the property. The congregation stood behind sound doctrine and even took over the financing of the property.

The same Buchholz had been talked into signing a petition against Mark Jeske, but switched sides at the WELS convention and spoke in favor of Mark the Apostate. Birds of a feather. Likewise, Buchholz slowly pivoted from being a critic of Jeff Gunn and Rick Johnson to being an advocate who funded the false teachers and condemned their critics. Chameleons are normally found only in Africa, but clergy chameleons can be found everywhere.

Mark Schroeder changed from being a critic of the New NIV to endorsing all paraphrases as God-pleasing. Mark Jeske must have muttered at him, "Change or die!"

ELCA reduced its size by 20%
adopting the philosophy of Change or Die!

Change and Die!

Let us now consider the newest version of Change and Die! and harvest the wealth of hypocrisy in that event.

The first Change and Die conference was rather low-key, replacing the Church and Change conferences that Mark Jeske, Don Patterson, and John Parlow set up over the years. They even had registration set up for Church and Change conferences on the WELS website. Bishop Spencer told me the den of thieves had been dispersed, but I pointed out they were organizing via the official synod website. I kept reproducing the links until that went away - the link, but not the Changers. Later their public website went away, but their sub-groups multiplied faster than a malignant cancer.

I recall an early Change and Die! event - perhaps the first - being sponsored in an oblique way by Thrivent. Now it is  funded by the Siebert Foundation, which has $100 million to spend. From the beginning Change and Die! was ELCA plus WELS plus LCMS. The conference is always pan-Lutheran, with the ELS strangely missing. WELS does that with worship conferences, too. 

WELS is in fellowship with everyone except the Evangelical Lutheran Synod.

"I wanna join Koine and earn $3,000 per gig."

Who speaks at these Change and Die conferences? First of all, ELCA clergy always do. Secondly, ELCA's female leaders also join the frolic. LCMS Church Growth gurus plan and speak. WELS Shrinkers always plan and speak.

Paul Kelm, WELS plagiarist of Fuller materials, has been fired and retired more than once. But he is back as a Visionary. He has more lives than Rasputin.

John Parlow was one of the original Church and Change organizers. Another was Steve Witte, now running the Asian porta-seminary. John Lawrenz, another Changer, headed the porta-seminary and stayed around to guide Witte during Steve's first year, lest Witte slip into Lutheran doctrine or some other bit of malpractice. 

Parlow used to post "his" sermons on his church websty. WELS clergy noticed they were almost verbatim from the sermons posted earlier by Babtists and others. Once I ran the comparison, with help from leakers, the sermons were taken down. Those who were interested had to pick them up at the office. No thanks, John, I will just Google "Babtist sermons."

For those who are geographically uninformed, Parlow and Witte are from the Anything Goes District, where Engelbrecht presided until his heart attack. Kelm was there, too. Fox Valley is where the foxes guard the henhouse. Fox Valley Lutheran High is where they invite an alcoholic and verbally abusive pastor to lecture the kiddies on sex education.

Engelbrecht praised clergy plagiarism in a formal paper, and backed Glende and Ski in excommunicating Rick Techlin for opposing plagiarism. So don't be so judgmental. In WELS, right is wrong, and wrong is right. Do this and you will live - in the synod - not necessarily in eternity.

Readers can follow the information on Jeske's speakers by reading the article on his Change and Die conference.

Here is the irony - There are faithful pastors who could share their life-long experiences in being leaders in worship and doctrine. WELS and Missouri will have none of that. Instead, they glorify lifelong apostates who sit like Smaug on the synod treasury, to spend it on themselves, their luxuries and vices.

Therefore, the LCMS and WELS have devoted themselves to getting along with ELCA while training people to hate Lutheran doctrine and worship.

And they have the nerve to condemn a tiny little blog for speaking the truth about them. 

Episcopalian Thugs in Milwaukee

Virtue Online appreciates my Photoshop
of Presiding Bishop Jefferts-Schori.
They use it fairly often.

ELM GROVE, WISCONSIN: Three years later St. Edmund's still is empty
Thistles grow tall while vines wrap around the door

By Mary Ann Mueller 
VOL Special Correspondent
www.virtueonline.org 
April 24, 2014

In December 2011, the parishioners of St. Edmund's Anglican Church were preparing to joyfully celebrate the birth of their Saviour when a Waukesha County Circuit Court judge unceremoniously handed the sweeping church edifice and all surrounding buildings over to the Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee as a Christmas present, giving the stunned congregation 24 hours to vacate the property. 

An immediate stay from the Wisconsin Court of Appeals in Madison bought the congregants about 30 days, but by Jan. 31, 2012, they were tossed out into the winter snow along with their priest -- Fr. Samuel Scheibler -- and their preschool children.

Now another Easter has come and gone -- the third -- and St. Edmund's still stands empty. No one worships in the church. No one raises a voice in prayer, praise and song. The church is as silent as a tomb. The recently remodeled rectory is vacant, classrooms are gathering dust and the preschool has folded. Wild thistles are creeping towards the entrance and a vine enwraps the glass doors.

St. Edmund's is a classic example of a mid 20th Century modern church with a sweeping concrete hyperbolic paraboloid roof. The Elm Grove church was designed by noted Milwaukee architect William P. Wenzler and garnered much attention when it was completed in late 1957. The heavy swooping concrete roof extends 45 feet beyond the altar wall to draw the imagination heavenward. The unique roof was poured first; then the walls were built to complete the building.

Mid 20th Century modern architecture was heavy into exploring the aesthetic possibilities of reinforced concrete. Such modernistic churches dot not only the American landscape but are also architectural gems around the globe. 

There is more to St. Edmund's than a decaying awe-inspiring edifice. There is also a small, displaced congregation of loyal Anglicans who have been legally roughshod by the Diocese of Milwaukee in the name of protecting the "work and witness of The Episcopal Church."

In 1874, St. Edmund's Church was originally founded as an Episcopal congregation in Milwaukee. It eventually failed. In 1947 a new group of Christians formed in the Town of Brookfield, a western suburb of the City of Milwaukee. The Village of Elm Grove, with its tree-lined streets and manicured lawns, was carved out of the Town of Brookfield in 1955. 

Eventually, the growing Elm Grove congregation raised enough money to build a church of its own on land donated to them at 14625 Watertown Plank Road, Elm Grove's main thoroughfare, linking Milwaukee to Watertown. In 1957, the modern sweeping lines of what would become St. Edmund's took shape drawing the attention of many architectural publications and photo magazines.

Finally in 1962, the growing Elm Grove congregation voted to affiliate with the Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee and was given charter by Bishop Donald Hallock (VIII Milwaukee) and revived the name of St. Edmund's Episcopal Church. 

In 1976, Fr. Wayne Carr Olmstead became St. Edmund's rector. For 30 years the beloved priest labored in Elm Grove. He preached the Word, celebrated the Sacraments and provided a shield between the increasing spiritual decline of The Episcopal Church and his southeastern Wisconsin parish. His church was closely connected with Nashotah House, just 20 miles away; Nashotah seminarians got of taste of the priestly parish life with Fr. Olmstead as their mentor.

In 2006 the congregation was shocked when Fr. Olmstead died. His ashes are buried at St. Edmund's ... but not for long.

Within two years, it became evident that the reality of the restyled Episcopal Church lead by Katharine Jefferts Schori was not the same as The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America under the leadership of theologically conservative native, Wisconsinite Arthur Lichtenberger, the presiding bishop in 1962 when St. Edmund's first joined Episcopal fold. By 2006, the Episcopal Church was in a theological freefall (both Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori and Vicky Gene Robinson [IX New Hampshire] were realities) and Anglicanism was fracturing over women's rights, sexual morality, and Biblical teaching. 

By 2008, the handwriting was on the wall. Membership was dwindling. In its heyday, the membership rolls topped 200. Later in that year, the membership of St. Edmund's voted to disaffiliate with The Episcopal Church and affiliate with CANA (Convocation of Anglicans in North America.) CANA’s Missionary Bishop Martyn Minns joyfully received them.

St. Edmund's vote to disaffiliate with The Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee and the larger Episcopal Church was 75 to nine -- clearly a super majority. The die was cast and St. Edmund's became the first Episcopal congregation in the State of Wisconsin to leave the mother church over theological differences and Biblical practice. 

On February 2009, Bishop Steven Miller (XI Milwaukee) swooped in and filed suit against the congregation demanding the property. Thus began a sad sorted saga of court battles that the Elm Grove congregation eventually lost. The Diocese filed against 15 members of the church -- priest, trustees, vestrymen, members -- as a part of The Episcopal Church's take no prisoners litigation style involving a dozen lawyers and more than 150 recorded court events including: motions, hearing, briefs, notices, various correspondence, responses, affidavits, dismissals, orders, stipulations, conferences, amendments, transcripts, and summary judgment stripping St. Edmund's parishioners of their property and holdings.

The Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee may have possession of St. Edmund's various buildings, its name and charter, but Bishop Miller doesn’t have the souls to keep the church open. In 2009, TEC's ASA graphs showed six members. At that time, St. Edmund's had the lowest ASA of the 57 Episcopal congregations in the Diocese of Milwaukee. TEC's latest 2012 membership graphs do not show any Episcopal presence in Elm Grove, the first in more than 65 years. St. Edmund's went from one of the largest and most vibrant churches in the Diocese of Milwaukee to the smallest. Sadly, it's on the verge of becoming just a footnote in Diocesan history. 

Since St. Edmund's Church members were forced out in January 2012, the building has remained empty. It was not a friendly parting. In addition to the unexpected ruling of Waukesha Country Circuit Court Judge J. Mac Davis evicting the parish, the Diocese, itself, was also rather harsh in their handling of the departure. It became a very messy spiritual divorce. 

One parishioner told VOL, "We ended up taking a lot of the contents that we had bought from the building and then they demanded we return everything to them ... that took a while ... they had a 15 or more page list of everything they wanted back ... including paper plates, paper cups, sugar, creamers and etc. (unbelievable!)," she recalled. "We had just redone (from top to bottom) the rectory ... our priest's office, the office for the secretary, the educational wing of the building for our day-care, added air conditioning, painted the kitchen, had all the floors professionally polished and redid the chapel in the basement."

After St. Edmund's parishioners were booted from their church, a local Missouri Synod school, Elm Grove Lutheran School, provided classroom space for the beleaguered and displaced Anglican congregation to settle while they licked their emotional and spiritual wounds and sought healing as they began their church-in-a-box experience. 

The displacement was devastating. Their priest was overwhelmed and ultimately moved on. One by one parishioners stopped coming -- they moved on, too. Eventually only about 20 souls remained as the Elm Grove Anglican Church struggled to regain spiritual footing. 

In early 2013, the Very Rev. Patrick Malone, an Anglican Benedictine priest, came to Wisconsin and took the struggling Elm Grove Anglicans under his wing. Slowly, the shell-shocked congregation and their new priest are re-establishing, stabilizing, painstakingly healing and gradually growing. 

On Easter Sunday, 52 souls attended worship at their new location at St. Mark's Lutheran Church, a Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod congregation, near the Milwaukee Zoo and Wisconsin Lutheran College, a liberal arts Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod school of higher learning. This time the Elm Grove Anglicans share the Lutheran worship space, not just use a parochial school classroom. This gives a big spiritual boost for the healing congregation to pray in a worship space. 

So far, Fr. Malone has been able to double the congregation's attendance figures and is working towards fostering the healing of the deep wounds that his parishioners received during the brutal litigation process. Eventually, he would like to see his congregants spiritually and emotionally healed and get beyond that into making disciples in the Milwaukee area.

"We want to get everybody healed and then we need to let the past go so we can fulfill the Great Commission," Fr. Malone explained. 

The small re-establishing Elm Grove Anglican group has adopted the name Holy Cross Anglican Church and remains a part of CANA. The new name was chosen after much prayer and discernment to reflect the fact that Christ's redemptive act took place on the Cross and that the displaced Anglicans, too, have experienced their own cross in dealing with the Diocese of Milwaukee and the litigation process. 

However, the Diocese of Milwaukee is not done inflicting pain on the former St. Edmund's group. Bishop Miller has announced that he has intensions of selling the vacant church on Watertown Plank Road -- all in the name of furthering Episcopal ministry within the Milwaukee diocese. 

In a form letter penned by the Canon to the Ordinary, Canon David Pfaff explains that the diocesan Executive Council recommends that St. Edmund's "be offered for sale, with the proceeds from any sale being used to support the future ministry of other congregations throughout the diocese." 

Therein lies a problem. St. Edmund's has a burial garden for cremated ashes and about 50 former parishioners are buried at their beloved church including their much-loved former rector Fr. Olmstead. 

The Diocese proposes to transfer the ashes to St. Alban's, another Episcopal church in nearby Sussex with a 2012 ASA of 30 hardy Episcopal souls. The church dates back to 1837 and has an attached churchyard in which to reinter St. Edmund's parishioners' ashes. 

The Diocese plans a Clergy Workday on May 22 in which the "priests and deacons from around the diocese will gather in the spirit of prayer and reverence to unearth the ashes as carefully as possible." 

This plan is not sitting well with former St. Edmund parishioners.

"The people are devastated," a former St. Edmund's parishioner lamented. "...that was their loved one's final resting place and they [the parishioners] have no choice ... now they [the Diocese] want to dig up all the graves and take them to a church in Sussex, Wisconsin that has a cemetery."

Canon Pfaff explained that the cost of transferring the ashes would be borne by the Diocese. Former St. Edmund's parishioners who had a spot reserved for their own ashes were assured there would be a place for them at St. Alban's.

"If, however, in light of these developments you would like to make alternative arrangements the Diocese will reimburse you whatever was paid to reserve the spot at St. Edmund's," Canon Pfaff wrote. "Unfortunately, the financial records that would indicate what was paid, and by whom, to reserve those spots, were lost in the course of legal proceedings ..." 

The Diocese of Milwaukee plans to have a re-internment ceremony on Trinity Sunday. It is to be lead by Bishop Miller.

"Please know that all those, living and dead, who have been a part of St. Edmund's Church over the years are kept in prayer," Canon Pfaff wrote.

Canon Pfaff did not return a call from VOL.


Mary Ann Mueller is a journalist living in Texas. She is a regular contributor to VirtueOnline

Jeske's Koine Band Charges Congregations $3,000 - Watch the Rest of the Edgy Christian Crowd To Follow Jars of Clay

Jars of Clay Frontman Comes Out in Support of Homosexual ‘Marriage’

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In a series of assertive Tweets yesterday, Dan Haseltine of the popular band Jars of Clay took to his Twitter account and came out in support of homosexual ‘marriage,’ citing that he does not “particularly care about Scripture’s stance on what is ‘wrong.’”

Haseltine, who is the lead singer of Jars of Clay and whose band became famous for its Christian-themed music, posted to his Twitter account on Wednesday: “Not meaning to stir things up BUT… is there a non-speculative or non ‘slippery slope’ reason why gays shouldn’t marry? I don’t hear one.”

“I’m trying to make sense of the conservative argument. But it doesn’t hold up to basic scrutiny. Feels akin to women’s suffrage. I just don’t see a negative effect to allowing gay marriage. No societal breakdown, no war on traditional marriage. Anyone?” he went on to argue.

“I don’t think Scripture ‘clearly’ states much of anything regarding morality,” Haseltine stated.

According to Matthew 19:4-5, Jesus defined marriage in referring back to Genesis 2:24, ”…Have ye not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?’”

Scripture also addresses homosexual behavior in both the Old and New Testaments, warning that immoral sexual activity will lead to death and eternal damnation.

Haseltine argued in one post, however: “I think the vast interpretation [of Scripture] has left room for people to deal inhumanly and unlovingly toward others that don’t fit their guidelines.”

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“I don’t particularly care about Scriptures stance on what is ‘wrong,’” he stated in another Tweet. “I care more about how it says we should treat people.”

Jars of Clay was formed in Tennessee in the ’90s and is considered one of the most popular and acclaimed contemporary Christian bands today. In 1995, their self-titled debut album was a major success for the group, reaching beyond Christian radio play to secular audiences.

The group’s single Flood received heavy secular radio airplay and reached #12 on the Billboard Modern Rock chart and #37 on the Hot 100 pop chart. It’s debut album has achieved double-platinum sales in the U.S. since its release, while the group has scored 20 top 10 singles on the contemporary Christian singles charts.

However, Haseltine says that some stations have now decided to stop playing the band’s music due to his recent statements, and some fans have erased Jars of Clay from their music library.

“Caught wind that some radio stations have pulled my music and people are deleting my music from their playlists,” he Tweeted on Thursday. “Why?”

“Because you have decided to support a lifestyle God calls an abomination,” one follower responded. “The fallout was inevitable.”

Video of the Last Mark Jeske Change or Die! Conference

If you like ELCA, apostasy, abortion, and the Lavender Mafia,
attend Jeske's conferences to learn even more.

Video Gallery

Change or Die Conference 2013

The Change or Die Conference was held on April 18, 2013, at the Harley Davidson Museum Conference Center.  The guest speakers and their presentations were captured and are here for you to view.

• Pastor Mark Jeske, from Time of Grace Ministry and St. Marcus Lutheran Church, facilitated the conference.
   
• Rev. Dr. Jeffery Schrank, Senior Pastor, Christ Lutheran Church, Phoenix, Arizona.  Dr. Schrank is an energetic, outspoken leader who has helped Christ Church Lutheran grow from 2,000 souls to almost 3,000 in the last decade.  A former member of the LC-MS Board of Directors, Schrank embraces his church's urban neighborhood and enthusiastically supports Christ Lutheran School and its enrollment of over 480.  His "Best Practices" conference in February draws hundreds of attendees from all over the country.
   
• Rev. Dr. Paul Hill, Executive Director, Vibrant Faith Ministries, Bloomington, Minnesota.  Dr. Hill has more than 35 years of experience in outdoor ministries, lay education, youth and family ministry and congregational development.  He has served as a parish pastor, a camp director and taught for 17 years in theological education.  He is co-author of many books and articles including:  Up the Creek with a Paddle:  Building an Effective Youth and Family Ministry; Frogs Without Legs Can't Hear:  Nurturing Disciples in Home and Congregation; Coming of Age:  Exploring Identity and Spirituality in Younger Men; Operation Fuzzy Squirrel:  Effective Youth Ministry Practices.
   
• Dr. John Bauer, CEO, Bethesda Lutheran Communities, Watertown, Wisconsin.  Dr. Bauer is well-known in the Milwaukee area, having served as Academic Dean at Wisconsin Lutheran College and Executive Director of the CHARiS Foundation.  At present, he is the CEO of Bethesda, leading their wonderful ministries to developmentally disabled people and helping the organization change to meet new regulation and funding realities.  CHARIS was a birth-parent of Church and Change in WELS.
   
• Rev. Dr. Patrick Ferry, President, Concordia University--Wisconsin, Mequon, Wisconsin.  Dr. Ferry has served as Concordia's president since 1997 and overseen tremendous growth in the University's enrollment, campus capacity, and programs.  He oversaw the rebuilding of the magnificent bluffs above Lake Michigan, the opening of the new School of Pharmacy, a community baseball field, and the recent assumption of administration of Concordia Ann Arbor.
   
• Rev. Carl Leyrer, Pastor, Divine Savior Lutheran Church, Doral, Florida.  Rev. Leyrer has quietly led one of the most successful cross-cultural ministries in the Lutheran Church.  The congregation in this Miami suburb draws more than 200 in worship each week and offers a vibrant congregational life in both English and Spanish.  The congregation's school, Divine Savior Lutheran Academy, serves early childhood, primary school, middle school and high school-aged students.
   
• Mr. Frank H. "Dick" Moeller, President, Water to Thrive and Enovate, Austin, Texas.  A Harvard M.B.A. Moeller serves as founding principal of Enovate Enterprises, LLC, a consulting firm focused on assisting entrepreneurs, founders, companies and organizations to achieve their full potential with strategic planning, mentoring/coaching, market strategy, governance design and board services.  In addition, Moeller is the founder and president of Water to Thrive, a faith-based, non-profit organization that works to bring fresh water to rural Africa.  he serves also a chairman of the Board of Directors of Thrivent Financial - Funding Planned Parenthood's abortion business.

I am not going to say it,
but you know what I am thinking.

Mark Jeske's Newest Change or Die! Conference Packed with Anti-Christian Radicals

Change or Die Conference

Thursday, October 9, 2014

11:00 a.m. – 7:30 p.m. (approximate)

Country Springs Hotel
2810 Golf Road, Pewaukee, WI  53072

Near the Pewaukee Love Shack, WELS
262-547-0201
(If you would like to reserve a room, please call the number above.  A block of rooms has been reserved for this conference.  The Siebert Lutheran Foundation is not responsible for hotel charges.)

Our Change or Die Conference provides an opportunity for Lutheran ministry leaders to network and learn from each other.  The Conference is a safe place for assembling people from across the Lutheran tribes and building relationships across denominations. 

This year, the Conference focus is on the Dynamics of Leadership While Managing Change.  Our speakers are:

• Rev. Yehiel Curry, shekinah chapel, Riverdale, Illinois.
• Rev. Paul Kelm, Recently Retired WLC Campus Pastor, Parish Pastor, Missionary, Parish Counselor, now continuing in his role as a Visionary.
• Ms. Beth Lewis, President & CEO, ELCA's Augsburg Fortress
• Rev. John Parlow, St. Mark’s Lutheran Church, DePere, Wisconsin. WELS plagiarist. Affiliated with Willow Creek Community Church.
• Rev. Mark Schultz, LCMS Trinity Lutheran Church, Lisle, Illinois.
• Rev. Steve Wagner, Associate Pastor, Concordia Lutheran Church, San Antonio, TX; Pastor360; Christian Leadership Institute, Concordia University
Texas; former executive leader Pastoral Leadership Church Growth Institute.

The Conference includes lunch and dinner.  There is no charge for this conference.  Due to limited capacity, reservations are limited to church pastors (we will accept more than one pastor from a single church) and one member of their lay leadership team.  Registration is on a first-come basis.  We request that when you register, you commit to attend the ENTIRE event, including lunch and dinner.  Thank you for your understanding. 

Registration is limited, so sign up early!

Our Planning Committee consists of:

Rev. Jim Bickel, ELCA Executive Director, Outreach for Hope.                         Rev. Paul Hill, Executive Director, Vibrant Faith Ministries.

Rev. Mike Ernst, Retired Pastor, LCMS Hales Corners Lutheran Church.           

Rev. Mark Jeske, Time of Grace Ministry.

Brenda Skelton, President and Deborah Engel, Operations & Program Officer, Siebert Lutheran Foundation. (Siebert gives money to Time of Grace and to St. Marcus.)

If you cannot attend, but would like to be added to our mailing list for future Change or Die conferences and other events, please click here.

Videos of the 2013 Change or Die Conference can be viewed HERE.

Register

Both these clowns worked for Mark Jeske.
Tim vicared at St. Marcus.
Ski and Bishop Katy were on the staff together.
The Change or Die congregations of WELS
offer soda and snacks going into church.
Sugar-coated? No you can get diet drinks,too.

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http://vibrantfaithvideos.org/home/videos/free-videos/dr-paul-hill-change-or-die-conference-2013/

Dr. Paul Hill – Change or Die Conference 2013

Vibrant Faith Ministries was honored this Spring by the Siebert Lutheran Foundation of Milwaukee, as an example of an organization that has made major changes in order to better serve it’s mission. Representing the whole organization, director Paul Hill, keynoted at the “Change or Die Conference” sponsored by Siebert. Church leaders from across the country came to be informed and inspired to change so as not to die.

GJ - Vibrant Faith was founded by Merton Strommen, ELCA, so it is safe to assume that the parachurch group is ELCAish, but that also include LCMS clergy as happy campers.

Helen Pins Back George Rolf Mueller's Ears

These are baby bats -
irrelevant, like George Rolf Mueller.

Helen E. Jensen (Helen) Senior Member Username: Helen Post Number: 6825 Registered: 7-2004

Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 1:02 pm:       It's just possible that George Mueller, who hides his identity, doesn't know anything about ELDoNA either. [I haven't read your opinions here. Long winded repetitions bore me.] I used to share classes, know and respect some of the men who are a part of ELDoNA. What I know now is that Augustana Ministerium is a Good Samaritan to men who need one, (whose own "brothers" are likely to turn aside), although some 'come around by night for fear of their DP'. Christ did not say you would know his disciples by their [anonymous] noisy name calling of anyone who might disagree with them.

SpenerQuest seems to exist to post hysterical attacks against justification by faith. George Mueller, in stealth mode, continues the tradition.

Confidential to George - Vast swaths of Missouri no longer teach that idiosyncratic fetish called UOJ. Worst of all, your Romanizing pal, Paul McCain, still sells a JBFA Small Catechism, the KJV Catechism.

Clean up your own tent before setting fire to another.

Obama's pajama boy in the White House -
so last year.