Dear Pastor Jackson,
I think you may be shooting at the wrong target... ELDONA consistently uses the NKJV, at least it does now.
I think you may be shooting at the wrong target... ELDONA consistently uses the NKJV, at least it does now.
ATP's Pastor Sullivan also recommends the NKJV
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Someone asks, "Which Bible should I use?" There are so many translations to choose from these days so what should we look for when choosing a Bible?
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and is critical of the new-fangled EHV
BTW, ELDONA (to which Pastor Rydecki belongs) is anti-UOJ and anti-Waltherian Predestination. (And I am not in an ELDONA church.)
Let's stick together for the very rough ride ahead.
Blessings,
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Stephanus Traditional Greek Text
19 πορευθεντες ουν μαθητευσατε παντα τα εθνη - Go therefore and teach (transitive verb, takes an object) all nations (object of teach).
KJV 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
New NIV 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
ESV - the Calvinist revision of the RSV -
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[b] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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Brug Copy and Paste EHV - Therefore go and gather disciples from all nations by baptizing them in[c] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [c Matthew 28:19 Or into]
Luther 1545 Darum gehet hin und lehret alle Völker (teach all nations) und taufet sie im Namen des Vaters und des Sohnes und des heiligen Geistes,
Schlachter 2000 19 So geht nun hin und macht zu Jüngern alle Völker (awkward - make into disciples all nations), und tauft sie auf den Namen des Vaters und des Sohnes und des Heiligen Geistes.
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GJ - "Make disciples!" is the battle cry of all Fulleroids and bad translations. Note that the Greek text clearly says "teach all nations," so the emphasis is on
- Going
- Teaching
- Baptizing,
"Make disciples!" comes from the cell groups of Pietism. They divide the church into mere members (ptui!) and disciples (yay!) All growth will come from disciples. As Kent Hunter, DMin Fuller, said patiently, "Shepherds do not have sheep. Sheep have sheep." His attempt at animal husbandry leaves many openings for humor, but I will avoid that temptation.
Gerlach, the covert Fuller guy at Mordor, used this passage to claim that disciples will make disciples who make disciples who make disciples... And yet these numbskulls cry out that we cannot have two examples of "teach" in the Great Commission.
The LCA and ALC had plenty of materials on cell groups, home study groups, prayer groups, koinonia groups, affinity groups, and Bible study groups.
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| So many people sent materials to me, so I could fight instead of them. But Wayne Mueller claimed in print there was no Church Growth in WELS. I even had the first issue of TELL, which SP Naumann endorsed in that issue. |
WELS, not to fall behind in the Pietism race, had their Church Growth experts selling David Cho (nee Paul Y. Cho) occult prayer growth gimme success books, endorsed by Napoleon Hill disciple Robert Schuller. (Hill switched to his exotic middle name because the police were after him for his many fraudulent schemes. Spirits guided Hill! Spirits from ...? Hill rejected the concept of Satan, doubtless viewing him as a competitor.)
LCMS had their own great treasures - Kent Hunter, DMin, and Waldo Werning, D.D., who had an IQ of 130, when adding the scores together. They turned false doctrine, laziness, and stupidity into a business before anyone noticed it was a scam worthy of Bernie Madoff (the guy who made off with $50 billion).
