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| I knew this "shattering news" in the 1970s, heard that Charlotte did the real work in the Dogmatics, and recently read verification of Karl Barth's career as a plagiarist. His children had two mommies under the same roof. |
Karl Barth and Charlotte von Kirschbaum: My Response | The Evangelical Calvinist:
"KARL BARTH AND CHARLOTTE VON KIRSCHBAUM: MY RESPONSE
I just read a disturbing, I mean for me personally, earth-shatteringly disturbing essay by Christiane Tietz about Karl Barth entitled: Karl Barth and Charlotte von Kirschbaum (Theology Today). As most of us know, who have spent any amount of time with Barth’s theology, his “secretary”, Kirschbaum was rumored to be more than a secretary; that she was a mistress. But this, at least for me, was always in the rumor mill, and I’d never seen any substantial or decisive confirmation of this; until now.
Tietz’s essay works through some letters sent back and forth between Barth and Kirschbaum; they are letters that Barth’s own elderly children, not too long ago, felt compelled to share with the public. What they reveal is that Kirschbaum and Barth loved each other; more than that, they were lovers; more than that, Barth brought her to live in his own home with his wife and five kids. Barth was not willing to give Kirschbaum up, and it almost (it should’ve, in my opinion, and would’ve in any kind of normal situation) came to divorce between Barth and his wife Nelly; but for some reason (I’d guess for the kids), Nelly stayed with Barth in this intolerable situation. Tietz’s essay offers much more disturbing detail than I have only quipped at here, but even what I’ve noted should be enough to cause alarm."
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| Church Growth is the kudzu vine that swallowed WELS-LCMS-ELS-CLC-ELCA, and Barth is the main theologian of Fuller Seminary. "The fault lies not in the stars, dear Brutus, but in ourselves." |
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| Did someone think this was profound? He could have been the GA Pope, the WELS hazing ritual where they learn to talk out of both sides of their mouths. |
GJ - I found a follow-up to this blog post, where people asked the author, "Did he really commit adultery or just live with Charlotte?"
Lest I lose the G-rating of this blog, I will not go into detail, but even Barth's own mama called him an adulterer. And - "everyone knew it." When he traveled in America with Charlotte, he did not need another room or bed.
No one minds plagiarism in the Lutheran Church. Barth could have been an editor at Concordia Publishing House or the president of Mordor in Mequon, Wisconsin. As an adulterer, he might have had many important posts, such as Church Growth Expert in Columbus, Ohio - and just about everywhere else.
More importantly. Barth was a UOJ Stormtrooper. He was a little more honest than most of them. No SJ for him - that double-talk where "faith" is someone agreeing that the world is already forgiven and saved. Barth was a Universalist - so verbose that the typical Barth cult member did not notice.
I mentioned Barth as a fraud in a Facebook post. One of my Moline classmates, teaching at a famous conservative college, went postal on me. He is a distinguished professor there and leads tours about C. S. Lewis (Universalist) to England.
As I told a reader, I used to think I wasted years of time reading selections from the "great" modern theologians. But that was how I came to realize that the UOJ being peddled by the ELS-WELS-LCMS-CLC (sic) is just the same as the mainline apostates - and ELCA.
Herman Otten's great complaint about Missouri turning liberal is completely off the mark. His Bronze Age heroes - Walther, Pieper, Stoeckhardt - prepared the LCMS for Biblical apathy, Pentecostalism, and union with ELCA. Like Barth, the leaders all come from the age of rationalistic Pietism, not from the Reformation.
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| What nonsense - yet the ELS-WELS-LCMS-CLC claims this as the Gospel. Walther is a shade different from Barth, but only a bit. His UOJ made it possible to ignore and cover-up Stephan's adultery until the young ladies caught syphilis from their bishop. Then Walther suddenly discovered the adultery. |
