Thursday, April 22, 2010

Sig Becker's UOJ


Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church Lady":

Siegbert W. Becker is used as the holy doctrinal standard for WELS defense of UOJ. Here's a beaut from Becker on the Kokomo statement #1

The first Kokomo Statement, 1) Objectively speaking, without any reference to an individual sinner’s
attitude toward Christ’s sacrifice, purely on the basis of God’s verdict, every sinner, whether he knows
it or not, whether he believes it or not, has received the status of a saint.

Becker, "One really becomes a guilt-free saint only through faith, if we limit ourselves to the biblical usage of the word. However, since our holiness, as Augustine says, consists in sin’s remission rather than in life’s perfection, we could say that when God forgave the sins of the whole world he regarded all sinners as guilt-free, but if they are guilt-free we might also say that they are considered sinless in the sight of God. But a sinless person is a holy person, a saint. The fact that unbelievers do not consider themselves to be forgiven does not change the truth of God’s Word that tells us that God does not impute the sins of all men to them, or that through one man justification has come upon all men." Page 14 http://www.wlsessays.net/files/BeckerJustification.PDF

Oh! don't limit yourself to the Biblical usage of the word!!

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church Lady":

Additional WELS golden nuggets on the Kokomo statements via S.W. Becker states, "The
third statement is a basically good summary of our position" Becker follows with, "it is especially necessary to point out that the statements do not contain false doctrine."

Kokomo statement #1 - Becker, "the meaning of the statement is nevertheless clear and correct."

Kokomo statement #2 - Becker, "we could say that when God forgave the sins of the whole world he regarded all sinners as guilt-free, but if they are guilt-free we might also say that they are considered sinless in the sight of God. But a sinless person is a holy person, a saint."

Kokomo statement #3 - Becker, "The third statement is a basically good summary of our position,"

Kokomo statement #4 - Becker, "Even the fourth statement can be defended even though it leaves much to be desired. As we have said, the statement is not drawn from a WELS source. If it is true that God has forgiven the sins of the world then it is also true that he forgave the sin of Judas."

http://www.wlsessays.net/files/BeckerJustification.PDF