Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Does the Eighth Commandment Protect Those Who Ape a Gay Video?
What About Failing Rock WELS Churches?




Now someone is emulating and naming the Fire Island and MLC videos, associating them with each other. That is a lot of free publicity for a tiny WELS college.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "WELS GA Personality":

What do you think about the eight commandment? There is a whole lot of slander on this blog directed towards WELS, MLC, Called Workers and their families.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Say It Ain't So, Joe - Krohn Rock Group Dumped at ...":

The hatred and slander on this site makes me sick. There is no excuse for this, especially coming from Christian men and women.

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Blake has left a new comment on your post "Mary Lou College's Own Flock of Seagulls--or--Girl...":

At first I thought this video was fairly immature yet mostly harmless. However, Mr. Jackson, now that I've compared it to your clearly blameless and omnibenevolent soul, it truly disgusts me. Thank you for opening my eyes.

P.S. How about this for comment anonymity?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Mary Lou College's Own Flock of Seagulls--or--Girl...":

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know I'm not wrong since I am a student at MLC, but I do believe MLC stands for Martin Luther College, not Mary Lou College. Some "pious" man you are pointing out the "sins" of others when you yourself are breaking the 8th commandment by bearing false testimony against your neighbor by not taking their actions in the kindest possible way. You are also slandering a man's name by not correctly given him credit as the name holder of a respectable college in the United States. Instead you use your close-mindedness to slander a man's name, and also the reputation of the gentleman in the movie. Who are you to publicly hold false testimony against the gentleman in this movie? I also know that everyone in this video has or have a steady relationship with a member of the OPPOSITE sex. If this video is really the biggest problem we have facing us, then we are surely blessed. But the fact of the matter is that it is not. I do believe you are missing the plank in your own eye but not seeing how your comments and your promotion to negative comments are directly affecting how these young men are seen by people who do not know them personally. Just because you have a problem with the WELS does not give you the divine authority to judge a man's heart or a man's intentions. Perhaps we might construct our time in a better fashion than to read a blog that diminishes the reputations of young men and encourages judgement on others? Just a thought I suppose.

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GJ - I give various institutions a nickname. I have trouble associating the Reformer's name with a blatantly Church Shrinker school, even more so when an atrocious video is uploaded to a world-wide server and students are shocked to find people watching it. Did everyone just fall off the beet wagon before signing up for college?

Why has the college done nothing about it?

Why is the video still playing as of this posting?

The Miley Cyrus video is painfully bad, but innocuous. Has Disney given MLC permission to use her music? There are legal issues which WELS pastors constantly ignore when they offer up their sermons as original when those efforts are nothing more than copies from the false teachers they adore and follow. Names? Parlow. Kelm. Doebler. Ski.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "More Cluelessness and WELS Grammar:Girls Just Wann...":

Well, your so-called entertainment has done serious damage to the reputation of these students and MLC in general. I hope it was worth it.

I'm not arguing that it should or should not have damaged these reputations. I am only saying that it did. Think before you act; consider all the possible consequences.<==Good advice for MLS students.



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GJ - Now that is a typical WELS apostate response. Any attempt at correction is met by accusations of a horrible sin being committed - by the innocent. By the way, someone with long-standing WELS credentials pointed out the video to me. He was too disgusted to watch more than one minute of "Party in the MLC.'

I posted the code for the video MLC is still showing. Yes, I know, it is not an official MLC video. To find it on YouTube, search "Party in the MLC." That would strike the average person as an official, approved video from the college.


One defense of the video is--believe it or not--the gay group loved the MLC version, and of course Miley loved the FIP version. But FIP stands for Fire Island Pines - the gay resort where the original Miley satire was filmed. Is that something to brag about?


Don't worry about the hi-larious MLC video being taken down. It can be hosted somewhere else, like the original one here, thanks to New York Magazine.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Mary Lou College's Own Flock of Seagulls--or--Girl...":

I am a current MLC student, and in stereotypical WELS style, I feel the need to place my two mites(<--Bible reference) in the offering plate, if you will. I realize that you will most likely not be swayed by my opinion, but hey, that didn't stop any of you.

Let's do a little review here, the thought is that the students featured in the video are giving the wrong impression of the WELS school of ministry. They created a parody video of a popular youtube video. Alright, we all still on the same page? good.

None of these men are homosexual. I know for a fact that at least more than half of them are currently or have been romantically involved with women. Also, if there was ever a question about their sexual orientation, it would have been handled by now not only by faculty of MLC, but also by the students because we know just as well as anyone that homosexuality is sinful and we know that we are told in the Bible to show our brother his sin.

Like I said before, the video is a parody, like Saturday Night Live. Some of the actors on SNL will impersonate homosexuals by dressing a certain way or giving themselves a lisp. Do people question the sexual orientation of the comedians on that show or others like it? No. This is the same situation. They are a group of blatantly heterosexual men who acted out of character for the sake of humor. Senator(at that time) Barack Obama went on the Late Show with David Letterman and presented the top 10 things he would change if he became president. In typical late night humor style, they were jokes, not real campaign promises he was making. So, just as we look at Barack Obama making jokes about his campaign on late night TV, let's look at the CONTEXT of this video before we make judgments on it. Realize that all of this(both Obama and MLC students) is relative humor, it's only funny because you know what the actors are like on a every-day basis and when they act out of character, it is funny.

In addition, you have to know the culture of MLC, or the average college in general. I will go out on a limb and assume that most of the people commenting on this blog are not of college age. That being said, most of you do not know what is considered funny or "cool" at MLC currently, so let's look at the culture of MLC.

Like I said before, Homosexuality is in no way condoned at MLC by students or faculty. But homosexuality is joked about because it is not even close to a possibility. In the same way we brush off comments like "We're gonna kill them" said by athletes, MLC students think of someone calling them "gay" or a "fag" as something so impossible that it does not bother them. Just like we know that LeBron James is not going to go out on the court and murder someone, we know as friends and brothers and sisters in Christ that if we are at MLC, homosexuality is most likely not a problem for us. And we know that we are not giving offense to anyone because they are not homosexual.

An Intelligent Comment--Oh, Oh--From Mankato

C.C.Baxter has left a new comment on your post "Does the Eighth Commandment Protect Those Who Ape ...":

context doesn't matter to the 13 year old who clicks and views "Party in the MLC". If that's their only viewpoint of what MLC is and stands for, which it probably would be, then that's bad. Fun video, but only for inner circles. We in the loop know they're not gay. It's the public that views it (and who certainly won't bother with context) that doesn't know.

As said before, there is one thing I whole-heartedly agree with: it being on youtube is a major step backward after Schroeder took on ELCA's homosexuality endorsement.

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GJ - No one ever said the kids were a bunch of sodomites. The issue is - why would they take the time to imitate a famously gay video? Does that prove they are cool anti-Pietists?

More comments are arriving, taking issue with me. I am on trial now - typical WELS turnabout.

Another question to ask - is there any supervision at Mary Lou College? This video competition seems to have no rules, since the children involved posted their work to YouTube and left it there - 60,000 views, 80,000 views, and counting. If they had criticized the Shrinker movement in WELS, the video would have been de-rezzed in five minutes.