Monday, December 14, 2009

Just For Fun at Martin Luther College (WELS)



For all of you who are sick of the guys always acting so gay I mean, a little here and there is fine, but when it becomes a part of your everyday life, there needs to be a line drawn as to how far this can go! Also, This is just a complete joke! It's just for fun!! I thought it would give everyone a good laugh! so relax, sit back and reflect, and LAUGH!

The Gayness at MLC Needs To Stop


Cheree Koenig

Cheree Koenig lol yeah ur right kailey! i didn't really notice that till now.. creepy

February 2, 2007 at 4:02pm · Report
Kailey Brianne Snyder

Kailey Brianne Snyder funny how gunnar is in every single one of those pics...

February 2, 2007 at 10:06am · Report
John Schleis

John Schleis Sorry guys, but my post was made in fun and was not serious at all.
Sorry for the confusion, and I wanted to put a "j" instead of a "z" but I put a "z" for whatever reason.

February 2, 2007 at 12:03am · Report
Cheree Koenig

Cheree Koenig yeah zealous?? don't get that one John. and snap, if there are guys, (or well anyone for that matter) that are taking this group totally serious.. uhh they SHOULD relax!! :D.. i admit it is frustrating sometimes.. but this group makes it less frustrating and more of a joke, and just something to laugh about.

January 30, 2007 at 12:23am · Report
Tyler Shinnick

Tyler Shinnick zealous.....wtf?

January 29, 2007 at 10:22pm · Report
Amanda Mikula

Amanda Mikula i just want you all to know, i only made this group as a joke! it wasnt something i was being serious about...all a complete JOKE!!!! so everyone needs to relax and just laugh about it!

January 28, 2007 at 10:37pm · Report
John Schleis

John Schleis I think Amanda is just zealous.

January 28, 2007 at 4:04pm · Report
Elisabeth Bishop

Elisabeth Bishop sure, it's gross. but just be thankful it's all a joke. at least we only see heterosexual couples making out in centennial lobby, not homosexuals. and this group will very likely not stop the behavior of the boys here at mlc, but rather, will make them feel that they need to make an even bigger spectacle of themselves,... cuz now they're getting facebook attention for it. i'm not saying it was bad to make this group, but just be prepared for the repercussions!! :)

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January 28, 2007 at 3:53pm · Report
Cheree Koenig

Cheree Koenig I think it gets worse when all the guys are 'drunk' like tonight at cos, i think they were all dancing with other guys at some point in the night! any way, im just sick of it, cause it is GROSS!

January 28, 2007 at 2:10am · Report
Joanna Kramer

Joanna Kramer yeah...sorry...it is pretty disgusting.

January 27, 2007 at 1:45pm · Report
Peter Wells

Peter Wells hey,....can i help it if even the men want a piece of me. I don't blame them, i mean i am hot and all...but sorry guys, i don't roll like that

January 27, 2007 at 10:59am · Report
Matthew Borck

Matthew Borck what hurts, hutch, your bumhole?
jk
and gunnar, I'm not the one trying to touch another man's unit in the hallway

January 27, 2007 at 1:20am · Report
Gunnar Ledermann

Gunnar Ledermann check this out. for one thing, borck is always naked in concord and only speaks of gayness therefore its always on his mind. the first time i met shinick he was singing the doxology naked with moldy in my room.

January 27, 2007 at 1:18am · Report
Zachariah John Wayne Hutchison
January 27, 2007 at 1:17am · Report
Cheree Koenig

Cheree Koenig Amen to this group! it's just creepy how "close" some of the guys are here at mlc. they do need to know where to draw the line. maybe this will help them see the light.

January 27, 2007 at 1:02am · Report
Matthew Borck

Matthew Borck its about time someone did this
thank you amanda mikula, thank you

January 27, 2007 at 12:34am · Report
Tyler Shinnick

Tyler Shinnick Wow.....
I'm all for a good game here and there, but the constant pillow biting and everything that's going around is just taking it too far.....queers. Go join the ELCA

January 27, 2007 at 12:34am · Report


Praise for Jeske Acknowledging Holy Baptism




What a relief! Jeske seems to agree with baptism.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Time of Grace Ad No Longer on LCMS Home Page":

Just heard Pastor Jeske's message for the Third Sunday in Advent. He focused a lot on Baptism. He put emphasis on the Word of God having the power to convert people (as far as I can tell, and you no doubt will disagree, no decision theology was present). Yes, the WELS has problems, so does any Lutheran church. Oh and if you'll notice, the name of the church that Pastor Jeske is shown. Yes, it is not "liturgical," but it is in the spirit of what Paul talks about that he became like others for the sake of others. He focuses on both justification and sanctification.

Perhaps you can praise what is good in the WELS. I seem to remember reading (though I can't find where--or even if it was you, but I hope it was) that you would not be criticizing the WELS if you didn't have any hope for some sort of change. So praise what is good about the WELS. Yes, point out problems, but praise what is good. St. Paul tells us that whatever is good, lovely, praiseworthy is to be thought about, right.

WELS member

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GJ - The excuses for Jeske are legion. I suppose the next claim is that he believes in God, so let him be.

He is the secretive leader of Church and Change. His influence is best seen in The CORE, where WELS members transfer in the name of "outreach." The Jeske circle does not want to acknowledge being Lutheran, but Lutherans should give him money and buy his trinkets.

Meanwhile, no one is sure which synod he is. I am betting Missouri, because that is where the Church Growth action is moving. His fellow-student at Mequon, LCMS DP Wille, is the one who announced that Jeske earned RSO status in Missouri.

When I met the head of evangelism in the LCMS, around 1992, he was very familiar with the CG guys in WELS. He worked with them on the Church Growth Initiative funded by AAL (now Thrivent). Doctrinal unity has been established in the LCMS-WELS-ELS-ELCA-CLC: through Church Growth.


Martin Luther College - A Beacon of Hope for Videographers






 Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Clueless in the MLC":

Thanks for calling a spade a spade when it comes to MLC. As you know, any student or even staff member at a WELS school who dared to call a spade a spade would sustain the same hail of rotten tomatoes and eggs you received via the blog comments, and after a year or two would drop out of the WELS school system after being pegged as a Pietist or party pooper, his or her life there being made unbearable by random comments and prank acts wherever he or she went on campus.


Sunday, December 13, 2009

Make It Easy To Give Thrivent the Left Claw of Fellowship: Paws for Concern





Our fraternal coordinator said that the new Thrivent program that replaces the member-donation-match will pour money into selected "national" charities. No word on which ones and how they are chosen. PLEASE please please Thrivent, put Planned Parenthood and Salvation Army and UNESCO on that list --to the exclusion of Synod itself - - and make it easy for my congregation to give you the boot.

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GJ - One person justified giving money to the Salvation Army because the milk went to the needy. Folks, that is what happens to all ecumenical charities. Soon any support of another church body is fine because the cause is good. The next step is a purely secular do-gooder group.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Not a PhotoShop - Your Lutheran Dollars at Work, S...":

These funds were used to purchase milk for low income families in Western Wisconsin-

Time To Tell the Truth at St. Peter, Freedom, Wisconsin





 
 
GJ - Tim Glende is the sole pastor at St. Peter, Freedom. Ron Ash, chairman of Church and Change is the retired pastor. Ski is listed as a pastor at St. Peter, and he seems to go back and forth from The CORE to St. Peter. Katie posted this photo when they all went to Seattle for a "pastor conference," which was not WELS. Fess up, folks. Mark Driscoll is in Seattle They all went to Drive '09 together, with Babtist Andy Stanley.
 


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Pastor L has left a new comment on your post "From Appleton - The Entertainment Capital of WELS ...":

Just weeks after coming to the Northern Wisconsin District five years ago I learned the lay of the land. One area pastor even verbalized it when he said to me, "It's a good ol' boys district."

That will not change as long as Doug Engelbrecht remains as District President, a post he's held for upwards of twenty years. While I must respect the office, long ago I lost respect for the man holding it.

A seven-month pastorate is unheard of in the WELS. The district presidents have agreed not to extend a call to a pastor until he's been at his current church FOUR YEARS. As I understand it, Pastor Christenson was spared 3 1/2 more years in Appleton because a more kind-heart DP included him on call lists in his district. It wasn't because DP Engelbrecht was trying to help the ministry!

It amazes me that more lay people at St. Peter aren't asking, "Why did Pastor Christenson leave so soon." Golly, usually when there's a change in pastors it's headline news. Somehow this got buried on page twenty at St. Peter!

Sad to say, we're becoming a synod of cover-ups. I,for one, plan to repent in the new year and ask more questions.

I probably won't ask my district president, though. There are many times in my five years that I've left phone messages and e-mail messages and never received a response from DP Engelbrecht. My circuit pastor has said, "You mean you didn't hear from Doug? He said he was going to contact you."

So, now you know why I'm not too worried about getting in trouble with my district president. I don't think he knows my phone number or e-mail address!


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Light from Light

St. Peter’s Upcoming Call Meeting

December 12, 2009 by Rick

St. Peter church in Appleton/Freedom, WI has scheduled a meeting for December 14, 2009 to discuss calling a new pastor. However, our congregation still has not been informed as to why Pastor Christenson left after only seven months.

On December 1, 2009, I met with Pastor Christenson for over two hours. According to Pastor Christenson, not one member of our church council approached him to inquire as to why he was leaving. Pastor Christenson had approached our church president, Mr. Denny, to discuss the problems with our ministry and practices here at St. Peter. However, according to Pastor Christenson, President Denny acted as though he did not care.

Pastor Christenson had a divine call, and he took that call seriously. So should we. He had to ask for another call as a result of extremely serious problems with the ministry and practice here at St. Peter. Pastor Christenson should not be blamed for leaving, he needed to leave for his own spiritual health and the spiritual safety of his family.

However, Pastor Christenson does have a duty to speak and to tell the truth and the whole truth no matter the cost. Here are some suggested questions for our church council to ask Pastor Christenson:

1. Why did you leave St. Peter after only seven months?
2. What did your wife do after first hearing Pastor Glende preach on Maundy Thursday?
3. How do you evaluate the preaching of justification at St. Peter?

According to Pastor Christenson, his definition of contemporary worship is not the same as Pastor Skorzewski’s and Pastor Glende’s definition of contemporary worship. Pastor Christenson is a believer in contemporary forms of worship, and would often play the guitar. However, he also believes that it is important to have good practices, and to preach Christ crucified and the true Law and Gospel.

The preaching of Christ crucified through the true Law and Gospel has been sorely lacking here at St. Peter.



Posted in St. Peter & The CORE, WELS, religion | Tagged church and Change, church Growth Movement, Pastor Ski, St. Peter Church, WELS, Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Time To Tell the Truth at St. Peter, Freedom, Wisc...":

Pastor Christenson will remain quiet if he ever wants another position in WELS. WELS does not tolerate telling stories outside of WELS.

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GJ - That is true - WELS is allergic to the truth. All institutions are similar that way, but WELS is extremely thin-skinned, so the biggest problems are not addressed. That benefits criminals, adulterers, and false teachers. Look at how WELS leaders are allowed to deny going to Fuller while they brag about going to Fuller. However, responsible people can find out the truth without putting Pastor Christenson on the griddle. The question is whether they want to do that or not.

This comes at an interesting time, when another Chicanery (Zak) has fouled his own nest. Watch a few more Chicaneries fail in the next year, without a safety net of synod, Thrivent, and foundation loot to prop up their circuses.

Time of Grace Ad No Longer on LCMS Home Page



About Time of Grace

About Time of Grace Time of Generic Grace is an outreach media ministry that was founded in 2001 by a small group of committed, focused Christians. The sole mission of this non-profit organization has always been to share the good news of Jesus Christ with as many people as possible through the most advanced technology available.

To most effectively accomplish that goal, Time of Generic Grace's centerpiece ministry is a weekly, 30-minute television program. Pastor Mark Jeske, senior pastor at St. Marcus Church in Milwaukee, Wis, delivers a Bible-based message that provides the real hope and truth of God's Word in down-to-earth "straight talk." The program is also available on radio and the internet via streaming video and podcasts.

Time of Generic Grace is seen weekly in 22 television markets across the United States. And beginning in the fall of 2007, it has been airing on Daystar Television Network, the second largest Christian television network in the world. Today, Time of Generic Grace is available to millions of households in the United States as well as to all troops stationed on land and sea around the world on American Forces Network.

Any of Pastor Jeske's messages may be ordered in VHS, DVD, Audio Cassette, or CD format by calling or emailing the Time of Generic Grace office or on our website.

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“Issues, Etc.” and “Time of Grace”

 Brothers of John the Steadfast


KFUO-AM is now airing “Time of Grace,” a weekly program featuring Pastor Mark Jeske, senior pastor at St. Marcus Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, Wis. If you go here on the LCMS Web site, you’ll see that the group that produces the broadcast is now a Recognized Service Organization of the LCMS.

What’s curious about that is that in order to be an LCMS RSO, you have to have an LCMS clergyman on your board. Time of Grace doesn’t.

The Board for Communication Services lifted that requirement in a recent meeting:

M/S/C to remove the contingency of LCMS clergy presence on the board for LCMS RSO status for Time of Grace Ministry. [The operative assumption, however, is that the board will continue to have LCMS lay presence.]

But what has people talking is that the host of the program is THE leader of the “church growth” movement in the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Fighting some of the false doctrine in the movement is a major problem for the WELS and I’m sure they love that the LCMS is now supporting this program.

You can listen to the program for yourself. Not much Gospel proclamation, which won’t surprise anyone familiar with CGM.

But I can’t get over how odd it is that KFUO would ditch its flagship program — Issues, Etc. — and begin airing “Time of Grace.”

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Time of Grace Ministry receives RSO status.


Come from the WELS, where the Church Growth gurus flourish.
LCMS DP John Wille went to Mequon with Jeske.
 

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GJ - I am glad they noticed Mark and Avoid Jeske is THE Shrinker of WELS. Look at his "about" page. Is St. Marcus a Lutheran church? Were his initial donors Lutherans? St. Marcus is just a church, not a Lutheran church. His whales, to use the Vegas term, are Christians, not Lutherans.


The Third Sunday in Advent




Christ is born, by Norma Boeckler


The Third Sunday in Advent

Pastor Gregory L. Jackson

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-lutheran-worship

Bethany Lutheran Church, 10 AM Central Time


The Hymn # 8 Father Who the Light 2. 20
The Confession of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual
The Gospel
Glory be to Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon Hymn #76 A Great and Mighty Wonder 2.2

Setting Pastors Free

The Hymn # 77:1-8 All My Heart 2.25
The Preface p. 24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn # 77:9-15 All My Heart 2.25

KJV 1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

KJV Matthew 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. 7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? 8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. 9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. 10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Third Sunday In Advent
Lord God, heavenly Father, who didst suffer Thy Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, to become man, and to come into the world, that He might destroy the works of the devil, deliver us poor offenders from sin and death, and give us everlasting life: We beseech Thee so to rule and govern our hearts by Thy Holy Spirit, that we may seek no other refuge than His word, and thus avoid all offense to which, by nature, we are inclined, in order that we may always be found among the faithful followers of Thy Son, Jesus Christ, and by faith in Him obtain eternal salvation, through the same, Thy beloved Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.

Setting Pastors Free

KJV 1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.

This is one of the great passages of the New Testament, so important that Paul’s words should be used to define all pastoral ministry. Most importantly, these two verses set pastors free to do their work.

The first verse uses a word common to justification – account. Let a man so account of us. Another translation for the general use of the word might be – to calculate or to reckon.

We stayed with a Canadian couple once. The elderly man fell down the basement steps. His wife found him unconscious with a head wound. He was fine, giving credit to his German skull. She kept going over what might have happened. He used the term – “Let’s not reckon.” We are always trying to figure things out, reckon, calculate.

My secular jobs do that. I am routinely audited for everything I do. The charts say things like this – Made weekly announcement, yes/no. Posted grades on time: yes/no. Posted syllabus on time: yes/no. These are called metrics, and they are commonplace today.

The Age of Apostasy is marked by the use of the wrong metrics. It is interesting to note that in days long past, ministers went to one community and stayed there for life. There was very little movement, except among Methodists, who had a strange tradition, called “connection,” where they were moved a lot.

Church executives, who do not see themselves as pastors and do not pay themselves as pastors, apply business metrics, the wrong metrics to the Christian ministry. That has been the downfall of many, and most pastors are oppressed by these false metrics.

The false metrics are numbers. How many are members, how many are attending each week, how fast is the church growing? Subtle ones are – how does the community view this church? How much esteem does this minister have in the eyes of his denomination? The apostates have declared to one and all, if the congregation is not growing, it is the minister’s fault. They have even more metrics. One sheet was sent to me. It was being used by WELS. It included such things as how the minister dressed. One circuit pastor threatened to leak it to me, for publication in Christian News. Soon after that he was pushed out of his congregation. That was years ago, when the Shrinkers were riding high.

These apostates are law-salesmen, as most readers or listeners can tell. They have a law about everything, except themselves. They remain lawless. They do not care that their own metrics prove them to be worthless, expensive failures. Their answer is to silence and expel anyone who points this out. Not only that – they punish anyone who is aware of their apostasy, keeping many pastors away from any institutional influence while criminals, atheists, and dunderheads are promoted. As one Lutheran said, “When the dumbest person on campus is the college president, it is bad news.”

The Apostle had real opponents, whom we know through his letters to the Corinthians and the Galatians. For that reason, Paul defined the ministry more carefully for us. We see the Holy Spirit at work, turning evil into a blessing. The opponents were his cross to bear, but God used this cross to define the Christian Church and its ministry for the entire world.

1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

Paul I saying – This is how to measure me as a pastor/apostle. But he also says this – “as a steward of the mysteries of God.” (He perhaps uses “us” to include all ministers.) A steward is an interesting term, often used of rulers who held the throne when a king was not yet mature enough to reign. These royal stewards had to care for a country that was not their own. In the New Testament, “steward” is used as a term for the manager who works for the owner.

A manager is obliged to work on behalf of the owner. For example, I have to deal with repairmen who work on a house that belongs to someone else. They know they can work out some details with me, but the real authority is elsewhere.

In business, middle managers do not last long. My university boss (immediate superior) changes every two years. I ran into one of the owners, a billionaire. There is quite a difference between being a manager and an owner.

“Mysteries of God” is a perfect term for the doctrines revealed to us through the Holy Spirit. They are not arrived at through logic or knowledge. There is some natural knowledge of God, which we can observe from Creation. However, the Holy Trinity is revealed by the Scriptures and defined by the Scriptures – nowhere else. The Bible rules over all books. No one has the freedom to re-define Christian doctrine, so the Real Presence is a mystery of God, not something to accept or reject. Clearly, when people begin rejecting one of the mysteries of God, they end their journal by rejecting everything. The cause is most likely a change in attitude toward the Word of God. As soon as they think, “This must be logical,” they are on their way out.

The trouble with logic is that it is man’s logic, which is often very weak, even by our own standards. People laugh at old predictions, such as, “We will never need more RAM in a computer than this – 1 meg.” (Bill Gates) Supposedly, one man thought aircraft had achieved the zenith of science when a man could stand up straight in the plane. This use of man’s logic has no end, once we start. How does someone submit prayer to logic? The Incarnation is clearly revealed in the Word of God, but if it were logical (on man’s part) wouldn’t every religion have the same doctrine?

Paul teaches us that there is only one way to measure the ministry –

2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.

Managers have to carry out their duties as they are told by the owners. This verse clearly teaches that “success” is faithfulness, not numbers.

Anyone who uses another calculation is wrong. Strangely, many ministers point to examples of suffering, martyrdom, and working without apparent results as good examples. As long as these exemplars are in the past, the ministers mentioning them are happy. But they are not content to join their ranks.

The Old Adam in every minister wants comfort, approval, and security. It would not be “bearing the cross” if people welcomed hardship, disapproval, and insecurity. The trouble is that coveting sets in, and that leads to being unfaithful to the Word in order to generate success. That success may be advancement to a better, bigger congregation. It may be in attracting more people because nothing is expected of them. Willow Creek began in a movie theater with the leaders asking the community, “What do you want in a church?” They did whatever the people said, and so that principle of marketing worked for them. Can anyone imagine Paul asking the pagans what they wanted? It is too funny, yet those marketing experts quote Paul without blushing. I have seen it myself when I was at Willow Creek to observe and to eat at their food court.

The world’s largest church, they claim, is Paul Y. Cho’s in South Korea. He teaches the occult and ancestor worship. He was so bad that the Assemblies of God kicked him out. Is that being a faithful steward? And yet a WELS pastor I know brought a case of Cho books to one seminar and sold them to the participants.

3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

This is an important verse, because it warns ministers against judging themselves. By the standards of the world, most ministers are failures. They get little esteem from the community. Their pay is average. Many or most are in declining congregations. Using Church Growth metrics, their younger members are a small slice of the congregation, the elderly are the majority. Their denominations are likewise in the same state of decline, if measuring younger members is the gold standard.

Paul would have judged himself a failure, because he started congregations in many places, and those congregations were in a state of upheaval. He could have said to himself, “You are not much of a minister, because your teaching does not stick very well.”

The term tent-maker comes from Paul, because he worked as a tent-maker to relieve the Corinthians from supporting him. One way to be made fun of today is to be a tent-maker like Paul. It’s much better to roll up to the Kiwanis Club in a new BMW, say the invocation, and drop by the country club for a snack. Then people will say, “Rev. Jim Bob is sumpun else. He could be a success in anything he wanted to do.”

As Paul teaches, God alone is the one Who judges. No individual can justify himself (an interesting and illuminating use of “justify” – to declare innocent).

5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

The only possibility from this lesson is to be faithful to the Word of God and bear whatever hardship comes with that fidelity. As I pointed out to a pastor-friend, the entire world is disgusted with infidelity. No one likes a traitor to his country. No one likes someone who promises one thing (to be faithful) to his wife and runs around on her. But people do like infidelity to the Word. It is popular because there are no divine obligations when the Word is corrupted. There are no Satanic temptations when someone is already enrolled in his legions.

Does anyone stop to wonder, “Why should I take lessons in being a Lutheran pastor from a non-Lutheran minister who will NOT put a cross on the church building and will NOT put one in the worship area?”

This lesson sets pastors free to preach and teach the true Word of God. We cannot even torment (or praise ourselves) with self-judgment. Only God can judge the results. But the Word of God assures us that His Word will bring His results, whatever they might be.

Luther put it this way – wherever the Gospel is preached, death is conquered and new life begins. We live amid death (from unbelief) but the Gospel brings life.
There is no real life on earth without forgiveness, and the Gospel brings that forgiveness to us through the work of the Holy Spirit. There is no eternal life except for that forgiveness, earned by Christ on the cross, distributed to us by the Means of Grace, received only through faith.

Sound Doctrine
"Since now, in the sight of God and of all Christendom [the entire Church of Christ], we wish to testify to those now living and those who shall come after us that this declaration herewith presented concerning all the controverted articles aforementioned and explained, and no other, is our faith, doctrine, and confession, in which we are also willing, by God's grace, to appear with intrepid hearts before the judgment-seat of Jesus Christ, and give an account of it; and that we will neither privately nor publicly speak or write anything contrary to it, but, by the help of God's grace, intend to abide thereby: therefore, after mature deliberation, we have, in God's fear and with the invocation of His name, attached our signatures with our own hands."
Thorough Declaration, Of Other Factions and Sects, Formula of Concord, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 1103.

"'If there ever was a strictly conservative body, it surely is the Missouri Synod. Nevertheless, this growth!...It is a mark of the pastors and leaders of the Missouri Synod that they never, aye, never, tire of discussing doctrine on the basis of Scripture and the Confessions. That is one trait that may be called the spirit of Missouri. People who thus cling to doctrine and contend for its purity are of an entirely different nature from the superficial unionists who in the critical moment will declare five to be an even number. God will bless all who value His Word so highly.'"
(Dr. Lenski, Kirchenzeitung, May 20, 1922)
cited in W. A. Baepler, "Doctrine, True and False," The Abiding Word, ed., Theodore Laetsch, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1946, II, p. 515f.

"We should not consider the slightest error against the Word of God unimportant."
What Luther Says , An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 637.

"Error and heresy must come into the world so that the elect may become approved and manifest. Their coming is in the best interests of Christians if they take the proper attitude toward it. St. Augustine, who certainly was sufficiently annoyed by wretched sectaries, says that when heresy and offense come, they produce much benefit in Christendom; for they cause Christians industriously to read Holy Scriptures and with diligence to pursue it and persevere in its study. Otherwise they might let it lie on the shelf, become very secure, and say: Why, God's Word and the text of Scripture are current and in our midst; it is not necessary for us to read Holy Scripture."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 639.

“You cannot of a truth be for true doctrine without being unalterably opposed to false doctrine. There can be no 'positive theology' where the God-given negatives have been eliminated from the Decalog."
Norman A. Madson, Preaching to Preachers, Mankato: Lutheran Synod Book Company, 1952. Preface.


Thrivent and WELS-ELCA-LCMS Ecumenism




Prosper with Church Growth, says former WELS pastor Wille, now a Missouri DP.

In 1970 there were 500,000 more baptized members of Lutheran congregations than was the case in 1990.  The Church Membership Initiative project was undertaken to understand and address this decline... Contact:  Rev. Mary Ann Moller‑Gunderson, Executive Director, Division for Congregational Ministries, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, 8765 W Higgins Road, Chicago, IL, 60631, 312‑380‑2570; Rev. Lyle Muller, Executive Direc­tor, Board for Evangelism Services, The Lutheran Church‑­Missouri Synod, 1333 S Kirkwood Road, St. Louis, MO, 63122‑7295, 314‑965‑9000; Rev. Wayne Borgwardt, Adminis­trator for Worker Training, Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, 2929 N Mayfair Road, Milwaukee, WI, 53222, 414‑256‑3236; Mr. Douglas Olson, Aid Association for Lutherans, 4321 N Ballard Road, Appleton, WI, 54919, 414‑734‑5721.
          Church Membership Initiative, Narrative Summary of Findings, 1993, Aid Association for Lutherans, 4321 N Ballard Road, Appleton, WI, 54919‑0001, June 30, 1993.


Saturday, December 12, 2009

Not a PhotoShop - Your Lutheran Dollars at Work, Supporting the Salvation Army Church




The Pierce-St. Croix Chapter of Thrivent for Lutherans recently presented area Salvation Army director Duana Bremer, center, with a $1,600 donation from their Care Abound Community Fund to be used in the Moola for Milk campaign. Submitted photo.


River Falls Journal

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The Salvation Army in the Body of Christ

The Salvation Army is an evangelical part of the universal Christian Church with its own distinctive governance and practice. Its doctrine follows the mainstream of Christian belief and its articles of faith emphasise (sic) God’s saving purposes.

The Salvation Army in the Body of Christ is an ecclesiological statement published by Salvation Books, International Headquarters. In his foreword General Clifton says of this short publication: 'It will be especially useful to those of us who are actively engaged in ecumenical relations and can readily be shared with others beyond our ranks if this will be an aid to mutual understanding. The Statement is not intended to say new things, but its purpose is to clarify and consolidate present global thinking on our identity within the wider Body of Christ.'


Candidate for Anger Management Class






Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "Eberle, Shrinker, Backed Jeske":

This blog has no credibility because those who know the author know he doesn't have an ounce of personal credibility or integrity. Why would anyone take anything he says seriously? Jackson might speak the truth, but those who know him won't listen because he has lied so much before!

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GJ - If Ichabod had no credibility, the Shrinkers would not write every single day, or threaten to shut it down, or invent counter-blogs to attack ad hominem.

Supposedly I invent positive comments. I imagine that I also invent the links to Ski, his guru Jeske, their Schwaermer mentors, Thrivent, ELCA, Church and Change, Charis.

Did I make up all those Church and Change listserve posts? I guess not, because they screamed like little girls when I posted them.

Did I produce videos at Martin Luther College and post them on YouTube, simply to make their students look bad? I forgive the athletes. Too many collisions with the tackle sled and too many steroids can damage IQ and cause 'roid rage. But I still find the statue fight obnoxious, offensive, and blasphemous. How many colleges are proud of having their founder fling the Bible away and take God's name in vain? Just one - Martin Luther College.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Candidate for Anger Management Class":

Funny - making the claim that Ichabod has no credibility from someone who backs up the statement with nothing and then signs it Anonymously. Talk about credibility.

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Kyle Fax has left a new comment on your post "Candidate for Anger Management Class":

I forgive the athletes. Too many collisions with the tackle sled and too many steroids can damage IQ and cause 'roid rage.

Completely uncalled for, Pastor Jackson. As someone who knows several of those students, they are very intelligent individuals and simply made a bad decision in posting the video to YouTube. That issue has been made very clear. It's a shame we don't know some of your past sins and bad choices so blogs can be created that exasperate you as well.

But I still find the statue fight obnoxious, offensive, and blasphemous. How many colleges are proud of having their founder fling the Bible away and take God's name in vain? Just one - Martin Luther College.

Then use the handy little button on YouTube that says "flag as offensive" and do something about it instead of whining. Or contact Schone or Zarling and have them contact the user and have them take it off. Zarling might not even know it exists, it's before his time. Or contact the user itself and politely suggest that he take the video done, it's more than likely a student who will be willing to listen.

And honestly, why did you respond to such a mundane Anonymous post in the first place? Just to beat more dead horses?

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GJ - Honestly, Kyle, as a Martin Luther College student, class of '13, why don't you go to your college president and do something about it? Or you can stop reading Ichabod. When people send comments, I get to respond to them. That is why New Ulm and Milwaukee light up my map at the bottom of the page. I would like to say that I get mature responses from the college crowd, but all of you are anxious to justify yourselves and condemn me. As I wrote several times before, the Party in the MLC video offended a member of your synod, so much that he could not watch the whole thing. The MLC/WLC response has been to attack me. In that sanctimonious editorial from The Thword, I am attacked and "forgiven."

I told one Lutheran over the weekend, "The cover story is good old fashioned WELS deception. They did not know what they were aping?" The other person agreed, since Fire Island Pines has its own Wikipedia entry, and Fire Island has been infamous for decades. No one can miss the clues in the FIP video, except the admittedly clueless MLC athletes.

The MLC "Party in the USA" video has not been lost to the Internet entirely. Here is a kid in a North Vietnamese helmet bemoaning its loss. Click here, because I do not want to embed it. The author wrote: " NemoBright, October 25, 2009. Response to Party in the MLC/ Miley Cyrus Party In The U.S.A/ MUSIC VIDEO i thought that video was hilariuos (sic)....even though i dislike hannah montana response to Party in the MLC/ Miley Cyrus Party In The U.S.A/ MUSIC VIDEO i thought that video was hilariuos (sic)....even though i dislike hannah montana." There are also many alternative websites that mention Party in the MLC.

Kyle, it is obvious that you MLC students have too much time on your hands. Perhaps you could create that blog with your friends. Call it WELS Jailbirds, and start listing church workers and the DP who have done time in the Big House. Work down to the local hoosegows and lockups across America. And then write - "Last, but not least, this guy started a blog called Ichabod, the worst crime of all. He hinted that we are less than perfect, and we know that is not so."

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Candidate for Anger Management Class":

Kyle Fax simply does not get it. The impressions left by synod and its schools either attract or repel prospects and members. Like it or not, members are customers of WELS. If I do not like what they are doing, I stop supporting them as much. Over the years I have cut way back because of the disgraceful nonsense, wastefulness, and declining confessionalism. I imagine many others feel the same way. After all, giving to WELS is not the same as giving to God.

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GJ - If Martin Luther College were a citadel of Lutheran orthodoxy, they would have something to offer. However, ever since Ted Hartwig, MLC has been a citadel of feminism, unionism, and Enthusiasm. Larry Oh! got his DMin at Fuller Seminary, which qualified him to teach Church Growth - something he never accomplished in his only parish - Love' Park. Each year, MLC invites the most notorious Chicaneries to add a rinse cycle to the brain-washing there. If readers want a who's who of Enthusiasm in WELS, look at the speakers' list for their mission day, with Paul Calvin Kelm as the keynoter.

Therefore, MLC has decided to be one more mainline denominational school with high costs and limited prospects for its graduates. The promotion of tacky videos as "fun" suggests that the administration (a) wants to be cool and (b) lacks the spine to spank the children of connected WELS leaders.

Only Three Posts So Far Today - Where Is Everyone?






Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Eberle, Shrinker, Backed Jeske":

Where is everyone today? Looks like even Pastor GJ is busy with other venues.
In response to mjleyrer,

Who said ,"Change or die?" Who said,"Those stick churches?"
Who is deeply involved with the liberal section of the LCMS?(meaning not the Confessional LCMS folks)

Yes, Jeske made fun of Close Communion. Does he know that WELS teaches against unionism? Perhaps Pastor GJ could provide a link to that Concordia Mequon Speech.
Is he ashamed of being Lutheran? I am not ashamed of being WELS despite the issues with money, C&C, and Kokomo.

mjleyer, help us Confessional Lutherans. We will start our own C&C. How about Conservative And Confessional!

In Christ,
from WELS church lady

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GJ - I linked Jeske's Mequon speech before. I repeat some information because people often stick with the front page.

Someone told me he checks the blog three times a day, so I always think of him when I am doing updates, or feeling too sleepy to do one.

I did have three posts by around 6 AM, which is about 6 hours before the Shrinkers wake up. A lot of comments came in while the grandchildren were visiting.

By the way, Shrinkers rage against the cat photos, so I added a new one from one of our resident artists.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Only Three Posts So Far Today - Where Is Everyone?...":

If you squint you can see God.

Jeske, "But if you are connected by faith to the power source of the universe, it is indeed possible. And fulfilling. And satisfying. And beautiful. And fun. God's Spirit enables you both to will and to do what is pleasing to God."
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19428446/By-Pastor-Mark-Jeske-Extra-Ordinary (Time of Grace 17)

The murder of 150 Million people was doing work for God.

Jeske, "[T]he authority of a government ... that authority structure is built and designed by God Himself.... Even bad governments carry God's authority.... Even bad governments do God's work by keeping some semblance of order in the streets. Even the government of the Soviet Union under Stalin was doing the work of God. Even China, under Mao Tse-Tung, was doing work for God."
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/real-cult-menace-part-two-freedom.html


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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Only Three Posts So Far Today - Where Is Everyone?...":

Good Grief...is that an accurate quote from Jeske about Stalin and Mao??? True, the blood of martyrs is the seed for the church...and all things work together for good for those who love God...

But that quote seems to come dangerously close to saying something like "Yeah, Hitler killed a lot of people, but some of his water color paintings really weren't that bad..." FYI, Hitler as a young man studied art in Vienna.

Was this from that same video where Jeske says we should voluntarily make ourselves slaves to the state if it asks us to?

I am not sure if this represents an evil genius or a complete moron....


Eberle, Shrinker, Backed Jeske



Thrivent magazine

Winter 2009 | Volume 107 | Number 650

Live • Give • Grow

Lights, Camera, Lutheran! Shrinker!

 Rev. Mark Jeske | Photo by Kevin Miyazaki The Show: Each Sunday at the 10:30 a.m. service, the sanctuary at St. Marcus Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, becomes a television studio for "Time of Grace," a 30-minute TV program featuring the Rev. Mark Jeske. The senior pastor delivers his sermon not only to his congregants, but also to three TV cameras that send his words into homes across the U.S. "It's a sermon delivered by a friend," says Jeske. The show also incorporates Bible study with Jeske (pictured), filmed in a studio.
The Spark: "Time of Grace" was an idea suggested by Washington, D.C.-area businessman Bruce Eberle, who sat on the Wisconsin Lutheran College board of regents with Jeske. "Bruce said, 'Lutherans have a great message that America needs to hear,'" recalls Jeske. "So, he formed a board of directors and helped raise $750,000 to launch the project. We taped the first broadcasts in August of 2001."
The Impact: About 350,000 people view Jeske's weekly message and countless others go online to watch the show or read Jeske's blog. "The Bible tells us that all faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the Word of Christ," says Jeske. "By getting the Gospel message into people's homes, it will work its way into their hearts."
Read more information on "Time of Grace," including local TV listings, links to Jeske's blog and his YouTube page.

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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Eberle, Shrinker, Backed Jeske":

Brett,

I might not be in agreement with all their doctrinal statements but their (sic) not going to hell because of them. Thus making Jeske's work OK in my book.


Jeske Shares Everything Except His Confession of Faith





Mark Jeske is the pastor and speaker for Time of Generic Grace, a national television and media ministry based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He shares the Good News of our Savior, Jesus Christ, in a half hour Bible study format, delivering a weekly dose of straight talk and real hope.

Time of Generic Grace is heard and seen in more than 20 markets in the United States, including Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Louis, Washington D.C., and Orlando.

In addition to airing on Daystar, Time of Generic Grace is available on the American Forces Network. Besides television and radio broadcasts, Pastor Jeskes booklets, blog, daily email devotions, and YouTube video messages all are available at www.timeofgrace.org.

May our gracious God continue to bless you as you journey through your own time of grace.

www.timeofgrace.org


Conference of Pussycats against Habitat for Humanity, But Jeske is There To Bless


Thrivent warned their troops that WELS was against Habitat for Humanity.
Why did they invite Jeske to bless their project?

Crowds are gathering now - preparing for the home dedication service. County Executive, Scott Walker, along with leaders from Thrivent Financial for Lutherans and Milwaukee Habitat for Humanity and the Carmel Builders Crew to celebrate the dream of home ownership for the Williams Family. Pastor Mark Jeske from Time of Generic Grace Ministry gives a blessing and we all give thanks!
Thrivent's Websty




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GJ - I figure Thrivent operates like those beauty contents, where money is given away but personal appearances are required as part of the indenture agreement. Jeske got plenty of loot from Thrivent, so he has to bless their ecumenical projects - not that unionism bothers him. He was also in the newspaper for speaking at a Missouri worship service where John Bauer was installed.


John Bauer, new head of Bethesda, Watertown.
Bauer earned his doctorate in education administration and supervision from Marquette University and for 22 years he served as the chief academic officer for Wisconsin Lutheran College. He was also the executive director of the CHARiS Institute, an affiliate of the college devoted to the scholarly study of challenges facing the church. advancing Reformed doctrine, unionism, and general craziness.


LCMS DP Wille graduated from Wisconsin's semary, upgrading  to Missouri.

Participants in Saturday's service include the Rev. Earl Bleke, Bethesda's chief religious life officer, and the Rev. John Wille, president of the South Wisconsin District of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod. The special guest speaker for the service will be the Rev. Mark Jeske of the Time of Generic Grace Ministries based in Milwaukee.
Watertown Daily Times - Mequon grads - left click on the link.

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GJ - What have we learned today? The same names keep appearing together. Jeske is the secretive leader of Church and Change in WELS. John Bauer was head of Charis at Willow Creek Lutheran College, where Church and Change was born, with hefty donations from the WELS offering plate and a boost from Perish Services. WELS is the Groundhog Day Synod. The same things keep happening to the same people every day.

For example, as proven by Ichabod, Church and Change bemoaned the hub-bub over the Open Door Symposium that was canceled. Joe Krohn voiced his support on the secret listserve. Bauer thanked everyone for their support. You can find this by using the search function on this blog and putting in "John Bauer." Small world.

Here are the blind leading the blind, on the subject of fellowship.

Would it shock you if the very same books were to be found in the Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary Library? I see book burnings on the horizon.

John Bauer


It is interesting that we allow our pastors the opportunity of seeking theological degrees from institutions outside our circles. They sit at the "feet of heretics" in order to gain their degree. Are we saying that they should go through a colloquy before they can continue on with their ministry? After all, they could become spiritually contaminated during their training and in the process
contaminate their members. The argument that they are pastors and can tell the difference between good and false theology doesn't always stand up since there have been pastors who have gone astray.

Ron Ash

Friday, December 11, 2009

Thrivent and Habitat for Humanity

Left click on the photo for the hidden message and a photo of President James Earl Carter.






A note about recruiting in WELS congregations

As a Chapter Specialist, one of the greatest roles you serve is recruiting Congregational Champions and other volunteers for the Thrivent Builds Homes program. Please be aware that although Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS)leaders commend the charitable work being done through the Thrivent Builds program, they consider involvement with Habitat for Humanity inconsistent with WELS fellowship principles.

For that reason the WELS Council of Presidents is discouraging its congregations from involvement in Thrivent Builds. Because of this, we ask that you refrain from targeting WELS congregations and recruiting WELS members for Congregational Champion roles. If you would like more information, visit www.thriventbuilds.com/resources and select Quick Reference Guides from the Search tools.



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http://www.thriventbuilds.com/partnership/thrivent/index.html

http://www.thriventbuilds.com/partnership/habitat/index.html

http://www.thriventbuilds.com/resources/homes/files/22794L-ChapterSpecialistWelcomeLetter.pdf

Now why would WELS/WELS members want to continue any relationship with Thrivent? 2010 is another big year for Thrivent/Habitat. There are WELS congregations actively participating in this ecumenical endeavor...even after the COP has advised against participation. Thrivent monies also go to support the Salvation Army.

The Salvation Army is a CHURCH that is not even Lutheran. Beliefs? Check them out? http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/vw-dynamic-index/CE33D354A0544F368025732500314AF5?Opendocument

Thrivent Raises Big Bucks for the Salvation Army!
Ripped from the Pages of the Post Crescent




 This obvious PhotoShop illustrates how WELS members are hoodwinked into buying Thrivent so their money can go to the Salvation Army, a heretical church!

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Thrivent Financial for Lutherans Foundation Match Day rings in $374,329.81 for Salvation Army-Fox Cities


The total announced Wednesday will be matched with a donation from the Thrivent Financial for Lutherans Foundation, which pledged to match dollar for dollar — up to $125,000 — all donations made to the Salvation Army-Fox Cities this past Friday.

The grand total for the Match Day was $374,329.81, Thrivent and the Salvation Army said in a joint statement Wednesday. The amount collected Friday was the second highest one-day collection for the Salvation Army, which last year set a national mark for a one-day collection, netting $497,423.

While last year's Match Day record wasn't broken, organizers still were grateful.

"When I saw the total, I was amazed. The spirit of the community is just extraordinary," said Robb Waugus, director of communications and financial development for the Salvation Army-Fox Cities. "It ended up being the second highest total collected since we started doing the match with Thrivent."

Jon Stellmacher, senior vice president and chief of staff and administration at Thrivent, thanked employees.

"Thank you to our employees and to all the community members who rang the bells on Friday, helping ensure that shoppers were in a giving holiday spirit," he said.

This was the sixth year the Thrivent foundation sponsored the challenge for the Salvation Army-Fox Cities. Thrivent match days have generated $1,280,460 the past six years.

"Last year, the Fox Cities broke a national record for single-day giving for The Salvation Army during a similar match day. The kettles collected $372,423, which added with the $125,000 from Thrivent, made a total of $497,423." (Previous story on this topic.)

WELS Salvation Army




"Red Kettle electronic certificates are available as Katie Van Grinsven (left) checks out a customer Friday at Festival Foods in Appleton. The Salvation Army is trying to make giving easier for those who don't carry cash." (Post-Crescent photo by Dan Powers)


King Henry VII, Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth I and Pope Benedict XVI






Most people think Henry VIII married so many wives because he was promiscuous. He enjoyed the royal prerogative of having mistresses, so marriage was another issue.

His sickly brother married Katherine of Aragon (Spain) and died. After many complications, Henry married his brother's widow. The issue then and later was - did the brother consummate the marriage?

Henry and Katherine had only one surviving child, Mary, later known as Bloody Mary, for her habit of executing Protestant martyrs.

Henry and Katherine probably had the rH factor problem, which meant later children had little chance of surviving. (My parents had the same problem, but had four unusually healthy children.)

Henry became convinced that God cursed him for incest. Today he could have transferred to the CLC (sic), but there was only one church at that time. Henry appealed to Rome, and Anne Boleyn appealed to him. She was attractive, vivacious and intelligent.

Henry finally divorced Katherine, a long and painful matter, made more difficult by the pope's weakness and Katherine's nephew Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor. Some readers will remember Charles V from the Reformation - he stood over Luther's grave but refused to dig up the Reformer. "My battle is with the living, not with the dead."

Queen Elizabeth's Mother, Anne
Henry's split from Rome was facilitated by his second wife, Anne, who enjoyed reading Protestant books so she had Henry study them as well. Anne became a horrible shrew, and many factions lined up against her. Anne's only surviving child was Elizabeth, of later fame. The lack of a male heir made it easy to manufacture a case of adultery against her. Anne was executed.

Henry finally did have a son, Edward, who became a Protestant king for a short time.

A ruthless nobleman tried to have Lady Jane Grey become queen, so he could rule through the teen-aged queen.

Mary replaced Lady Jane, who was executed after only nine days. However, Mary was not healthy and died relatively young, allowing Elizabeth to rule as a Protestant.

Henry's quest for a wife was motivated by his fear of another War of the Roses, which his father won. Henry VII, Henry VIII, Edward VI, (Lady Jane), Mary, and Elizabeth were the only Tudor rulers.

Stuart Monarchs - Indelible Bad Impression - Click here for a link to the list.

Next came James I of Scotland, the first Stuart king, related to Henry VIII through Henry's sister. The Stuart monarchs were: James I (of Bible fame), Charles I (executed), Charles II (restored), James II (overthrown by the bloodless revolution, William and Mary), and finally Queen Anne.

The Stuart kings "left an indelible bad impression on England." All of the men were secret Roman Catholics, so they favored Rome while oppressing the Protestants. Their dishonesty led to waves of migrations to America, in search of religious freedom. The original concept of a Christian nation with no religious test for politicians came from our Founders' experiences with the English situation.

B-16
Pope Benedict has created a furor by offering to accept British Anglicans and American Episcopalians into the priesthood, wives and titles and all.

Traditionalist Episcopalians, like Gaylin Schmeling's professor at Nashotah House, have longed for reunion with Rome. Now they have that possibility, and the terms are not too onerous.

This link has a good article on Benedict's diplomacy.

Krauth on Anglicans
"Its Articles, Homilies, and Liturgy have been a great bulwark of Protestantism; and yet, seemingly, out of the very stones of that bulwark has been framed, in our day, a bridge on which many have passed over into Rome...It harbors a skepticism which takes infidelity by the hand, and a revised medievalism which longs to throw itself, with tears, on the neck of the Pope and the Patriarch, to beseech them to be gentle and not to make the terms of restored fellowship too difficult." Charles P. Krauth

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "King Henry VII, Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth I and ...":

It amazes me how you can find ways to attack people/groups that are not really related to your post. Seriously, what is the point in that? Are you implying that the CLC is incestuous? If so can you offer proof? Or is this an attempt at humor?

Also, what does the fact that Pres. Schmeling went to an Episcopal school have to do with this post (especially considering that he went for an STM in "History of Dogma," instead of doctrine)? You went to Notre Dame and Yale. Those aren't exactly orthodox schools either.

-Anonymous because I don't have an identity affiliated with the blogosphere.

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GJ - Why is a simple fact about Gaylin Schmeling an attack? I quoted one of his professors, Charlie Caldwell, a good friend of mine at Notre Dame. Most people do not know Charlie, so I mentioned Gaylin. Schmeling was passed over for a position at Bethany because he did not have a graduate degree, so he got an STM at Nashotah House. The same rule was not applied to Moldstad, who became a Bethany Seminary Professor of New Testament without a college degree. There was a hub-bub about that, so Moldstad finished one up. Gone are the days when Chemnitz, as a bishop, was required to earn a PhD in theology.

Ask the Pancake Pope about incest in the CLC (sic). Perhaps the anonymous person could ask for anonymous DNA from the people involved.

I drop in various comments to wake up the snoozing Pietists, who are always ready to accuse...anonymously. One WELS pastor said this, "Everything I could verify has been shown to be true." I would name him, but that would tilt the playing field, not exactly fair.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "King Henry VII, Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth I and ...":

"The Stuart monarchs were: James I (of Bible fame), Charles I (executed), Charles II (restored), James II (overthrown by the bloodless revolution, William and Mary)."

Don't forget Queen Anne!

"Their dishonesty led to waves of migrations to America, in search of religious freedom."

Those religious emigrations from England deserve some context. The Puritans/non-conformists did constitute something of a political threat, even unto regicide as England would discover, and so intolerance was only a matter of course. And then theologically, the Puritans' largely Calvinistic leanings were nothing to applaud.

"All of the men were secret Roman Catholics, so they favored Rome while oppressing the Protestants."

James II was avowedly Catholic, of course, but he was hardly oppressive. Foolish, certainly. He was expelled for advocating too vehemently Catholic toleration, but again, nothing he did was particularly oppressive against Protestants in England. In fact, his attempts to introduce toleration applied also to non-conformists, which didn't sit well with Church of England divines.

-DJJ

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GJ - Good points by DJJ.

Enablers






People are starting to admit their role in enabling Tiger Woods. His actions were inexcusable, but they went on unabated because many responsible people looked the other way. Others did not want the gravy train to slow down.

Ecclesiastical enablers are no different. They take the easy way out, and scandals follow.


Blog List Changes





I am not alone in wondering why people read this blog and then complain. This is not required reading at any seminary or synod headquarters.

If the Chicaneries want sermons and quotations 24/7, they can concentrate on the Bethany blog.

I started the Bethany blog so people could read sermons alone and not have to plow through various news items.

Sadly, using the Bethany blog will make some people see that the sermons are being read all over the world, especially the Third World. Perhaps the Parable of the Sower is valid after all! (I am just teasing the humorless Shrinkers. They need to relax a little more, while their Titanic is sinking.)

There are no secret passwords to get to the information provided here - no members only entrance, no application for access (as the Chicaneries demand).

What riles the Shrinkers so much? They operate in secret, so they do not like their leaders and plans exposed. When the lights are turned on, they head for the dark recesses again, just like cockroaches.

Shrinkers are also in a rage because they are losing ground.

Most of all, they hate sound doctrine. They strut about while their synod subsidies, Thrivent grants, and foundation money flows. But now they have neither money nor doctrine to boast about, so they have to fume and threaten.

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