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And this is a Lutheran
Church? Just what I need on Sunday morning - a seminar on how to balance my
checkbook. Check out Hope Lutheran Church (WELS) in Dousman, WI this Sunday, if
you want to either be formed into a Pharisee or sent a guilt
trip:
The Good Life. How could the richest nation on the
planet, the nation with the most resources and the most opportunity be facing
financial crisis? It's obvious isn't it? Isn't it the other political party? Or
it's the current administration? Or it's the previous administration? Nope. The
problem isn't in Washington. The problem is looking at you in the mirror. As we
begin this series, we will discover that if our country is ever going to
experience a recovery, it will start when the Christians begin paying attention
to what God has taught us about how to handle financial
responsibility.
http://hopeinjesus.org/
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Brett Meyer
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(W)ELS is not using the
Confessional Lutheran clergy to teach the next generation of Seminarians.
They’re using the cutting edge New Age Emergent clergy like Ski, Glende,
Patterson and Oldenburg.
(W)ELS Pastor Jerrod Oldenburg – Eternal Rock
Lutheran Church, Castle Rock, Co.
State of the Church 2012
01:55 -
(W)ELS “Seminary asked if (he) would come and talk to the students about what
it takes to start a church”
04:45 – “People are the most important part
of a church.”
05:20 – “In order for us to have any success in trying to build
a church we have to make sure we’re on the same page.”
06:50 – “How can we
set it up so we can do worship with excellence.”
07:00 - “We don’t have a
baptismal font today, we’re working on trying to pick the right bowl.”
07:15
– “we’re doing this because we’re ultimately trying to build this launch
pad.”
07:44 – “So we said, what is the best possible way that we can get
people to learn in God’s Word, so we went back and forth and we ended up saying
let’s do like some sort of small group kind of idea.”
07:55 - “Some people
asked why don’t we have Bible study right away – well we kinda wanta make sure
we do worship well. So then we went to bible study and we worked on that and we
started doing Grow Groups. And we’ll talk about how this is kinda shaken out in
the end. And we also wanted to do some Serve Activities.”
09:30 – “we have
over 30 people signed up for Grow Groups.”
09:50 – “Service. You say well how
many people do we want to serve? The number I use is 50%, now this is probably
getting a little convoluted, but 50% of the average adult attendance, so if we
have 35 people I’m hoping we have 18 people serving in church in some way. And
you say that actually doesn’t make sense because as a church you say we want you
to worship, we want you to grow, and Bible study be we also want you to serve so
why do we only want 50%? Well one, if you serve at the women’s shelter I don’t
get reports from that. I have no idea how many of you are outside of these doors
going to do something in the community and I have no way to figure that out. So
I can say, of our own people I’m shooting for 50%. And why don’t we have a 100%
of our people serving in church every week? Does anyone lift weights…yeah,
burnout that’s exactly it, if you lift weights you don’t actually grow…your
breaking down your muscle fibers as I understand it, breaking them down,
breaking them down and the only time that they grow is when they recover. And I
think it’s the same thing as believers…”
12:30 – “So we said let’s reduce
this as much as possible. I want to do three things, cause that’s like triune
and really neat. We couldn’t do it. We got it down to four, worship, growth,
serve and share. But there’s something interesting though, we’ve nailed number
three, have we nailed number four, really well?”
29:00 – “So you draw your
little rocket…so right above that write five names of people that you want to
say I want to have intentional impact with this year. Just five names…put it
some place where you’re going to
remember…”
http://www.eternalrock.org/media.php?pageID=23
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/search?q=oldenburg