ICHABOD, THE GLORY HAS DEPARTED - explores the Age of Apostasy, predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, to attack Objective Faithless Justification, Church Growth Clowns, and their ringmasters. The antidote to these poisons is trusting the efficacious Word in the Means of Grace. John 16:8. Isaiah 55:8ff. Romans 10. Most readers are WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELCA. This blog also covers the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Left-wing, National Council of Churches denominations.
Friday, December 25, 2009
Sassy Update - The Squirrel Hunter
In Phoenix, I walked Sassy to the park every morning, sometimes as early as 4 AM to avoid the heat.
In Northwest Arkansas, we live in a park, a double lot where trees surround the house. Just like the dogs in "Up," Sassy lives to chase squirrels. She has no hope of catching one, but the thrill never goes away.
The morning walk begins with, "Sassy - let's go kill a squirrel." She knows that includes walking across the main road and going up the hill on Wentworth.
First we stop to see Maynard and Homer, two neighboring guard dogs, big babies looking for attention. Sassy chases Maynard in circles and fusses with Homer. Old Homer is known for not liking smaller dogs, so he sometimes wears an expression of disgust and dismay, backing away to watch from the porch. Maynard enjoys the chase.
Across the street is a new Scotch terrier, usually inside. On the corner is a little dog who stays outside without a leash. That is Sassy's boyfriend. Our granddaughter got them together for a social meeting. Ever since, Sassy and her boyfriend have enjoyed daily chases around the yard. Sassy on three legs can keep up with other dogs on four. The new neighbors admire Sassy and talk about her with me.
Chipmunk holes are abundant, so Sassy checks them out. Chipmunks do two things to hide. One is the freeze. When they stop moving, they blend easily with the background. If Sassy charges, they duck into their hidey-holes nearby. The Shrinkers are like chipmunks. When discovered, they freeze and try to blend with the background. They claim to be confessional, like everyone else. If confronted, they run into their hidey-holes, asking their drinking buddies to support and protect them.
White-Out Christmas
Christmas Eve services were canceled all over Northwest Arkansas last night. Often storms pass by, but this one closed down Oklahoma and brushed past our little corner of Arkansas. We fell asleep with rain still falling, the cold descending upon us. I woke up to a quiet winter landscape.
The weather did not affect our live Internet broadcast, which was also recorded. Perhaps those who are reduced to selling books for a living, or copying the Reformed for success, should try our cutting-edge technology.
Our Sheltie Precious, an Arizona native, was sitting in the guest room this morning, perhaps trying to figure out what was outside the dog-door. The deck is the backyard for three dogs, and it has inches of snow on it already. The guest room is their normal path to the outdoors.
We are only a few minutes from our grandchildren, but we are up on a hill in Little Switzerland (Bella Vista). If they plow and salt the main road down to the highway, we can leave our little circle of three homes. Otherwise, a trip down that steep and twisting drive will earn us a spot in the local news - not that Mrs. Ichabod would volunteer for that ride.
The Enthusiasts among the Lutherans are becoming more hysterical as their schemes are exposed or shut down. That makes the oppression felt by confessional Lutherans more difficult, as they wonder, "How long?" The corrupt, dishonest, and weak who were oozed into power by the Shrinkers will remain until they retire, die, or receive the Left Foot of Fellowship. The last is most unlikely in the Good Ol' Boy network. Those who drink together in school shrink together in the synod.
Nevertheless, the battle has finally started. People are no longer afraid of their Shrinker DPs and Shrinker theology professors. With trembling lips, the name Lutheran is being spoken again.
Two congregations are helping the battle, more than they know.
- The CORE is the fruit of Jeske Enterprises, a failure in every respect - except blowing money faster than a Gurgle. At the rate Mequon is declining, Ski will soon be the Werning Professor of Entertainment at the Sausage Factory.
- Rock and Roll is the centerpiece for the Donald-Patterson-for-SP Campaign, another laugh a minute. The sermon for a "$200,000 grant and more members now!" was deleted from the websty, along with everything else except a map.
The year is ending with most Americans now hoping for a change from Hope and Change. As Diablo said on the phone, "We haven't had a good president since Reagan." Impoverished leadership in the political realm follows apostate leadership in the churches. Long before we had Clinton and his cover-up team, we had Floyd Luther Stolzenburg and his store-bought synod supporters.
Church and Chicanery is still inviting people for the November, 2009 conference. Nothing speaks more eloquently about incompetence and illiteracy than their websty.
Thursday, December 24, 2009
Church Growther in WELS Joined This Group - Freedom FROM Religion
"In late 1976, 80 district mission and evangelism executives and board members attended special Fuller Seminary sessions and by the late 1970s, courses on Church Growth principles were taught at both LCMS seminaries." [Toward a Theological Basis, Understanding and Use of Church Growth Principles in the LCMS. 1991. p. 1]
Rev. Curtis Peterson, former WELS World Mission Board, "A Second and Third Look at Church Growth Principles," Metro South Pastors Conference Mishicot, Wisconsin, February 3, 1993 p. 10.
"In my opinion, therefore, Church Growth receptivity and 'soil testing' techniques are often unfairly criticized as if they were by definition synergistic. It is a fact that some fields are, for various historical and sociological reasons, more receptive to the preaching of the gospel and church planting than others. Our home and world mission boards make these judgments all the time in deciding where to begin churches or send missionaries."
Rev. Curtis Peterson, former WELS World Mission Board, "A Second and Third Look at Church Growth Principles," Metro South Pastors Conference Mishicot, Wisconsin, February 3, 1993 p. 12. Mark 4:
Kent Hunter: "Correct doctrine is essential. But it is never to be a priority at the expense of the mission. In fact, when the quest for proper doctrine intensifies to the point of neglecting mission and ministry, then it is no longer proper doctrine." [Foundations for Church Growth, New Haven: Leader Publishing, 1983, pp. 152-3] Rev. Curtis Peterson, former WELS World Mission Board, "A Second and Third Look at Church Growth Principles," Metro South Pastors Conference Mishicot, Wisconsin, February 3, 1993 p. 21.
"We are called to proclaim God's word both faithfully and effectively. The Lord wants all to be saved, and thus numbers are important. God is never pleased with a 'glorification of littleness.'" Rev. Curtis Peterson, former WELS World Mission Board, "A Second and Third Look at Church Growth Principles," Metro South Pastors Conference Mishicot, Wisconsin, February 3, 1993 p. 22f.
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"Nod to God" Politicians and the Ten Commandments
By Curtis A. Peterson
A small crowd gathered in downtown Milwaukee on March 27 to witness the removal of a monument of the Ten Commandments from city property where it had stood since 1957.
The ceremony began with remarks by Ald. Jeff Pawlinski serving as spokesman for the Milwaukee Common Council. The events of this day came about because the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals declaring such monuments to be violations of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Disagreeing with the Court but bowing to it, Pawlinski nevertheless lamented the necessary removal of the monument and its return to the Fraternal Order of Eagles, which donated the monument in 1955 in a ceremony with actor Yul Brynner to promote the movie "The Ten Commandments."
Making an apparently obligatory "nod to god," both politicians and Eagles officials, understanding neither the Ten Commandments nor the First Amendment, mourned this "sad" day and pointed the finger of blame at the "notorious Freedom From Religion Foundation," which brought the lawsuit resulting in its removal.
Don Runnells, a spokesman for the Eagles, insisted, "This has nothing to do with religion. It's about morals." Every Christian and Jew in the country ought to cringe at such nonsense. According to Exodus 20 and Deut. 5, the Decalogue was given as a covenant between God and Israel, the equivalent of a treaty between a King and a lesser lord who owed him loyalty.
Curtis A. Peterson holds a B.A. from Concordia Senior College, Ft. Wayne, Indiana, and a M.Div and STM (l966 and l983 respectively) from Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, Missouri.
In almost 30 years in the ministry in both the Missouri and Wisconsin Synods, he was an activist with many published articles supporting the orthodox Lutheran cause in the "Battle for the Bible" in the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, and author of several articles in the Wisconsin Synod between l987 and l995. He also delivered several essays at pastoral conferences during those years.
He served congregations in Burlington, N.C., Rock Falls, Ill., Garland, Tex. and Gretna, La., in the LCMS and in Milwaukee, Wis. in the WELS.
A [Freedom From Religion] Foundation member, he is now retired, resides in Wisconsin and calls himself a humanist and a freethinker.
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Dec 23, 2009 1:37 pm US/Central
Furor Erupts Over Atheist Display At State Capitol
Comptroller Candidate William J. Kelly Tries To Take Down Sign, Is Escorted From Building
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William J. Kelly announced Tuesday that he planned to take down the sign put up by the Freedom from Religion Foundation, and on Wednesday, he tried to make good on his plan.
But Kelly said when he turned the sign around so it was face down, state Capitol police were quick to escort him away.
Illinois Secretary of State's office spokeswoman Henry Haupt said Kelly was escorted from the rotunda by state Capitol police, who briefly detained him, wrote an incident report, and directed him to leave the building.
"It doesn't matter how we feel about the message on a display," Haupt said. "Our obligation is to protect the property within the state Capitol building, and we would do the same for any other display."
But Kelly called the sign "hate speech," and said he does not believe it is appropriate for a sign that "mocks" religion to be placed next to a Christmas tree and also near a nativity scene.
"I don't think the State of Illinois has any business denigrating or mocking any religion," Kelly said, "and I think that's what the verbiage on the sign was doing."
The sign reads: "At the time of the winter solstice, let reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is just myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."
The sign was also on display at the Capitol at this time last year. The group says it filed for a permit to post the display in response to the state's decision to put up the nativity.
But Kelly said he believes the problem is not only the verbiage of the sign, but also its proximity to the Christmas tree.
"The fact that sign was immediately in front of the tree, I found that to be disturbing because any family and any child would run up to that tree with a smile on their face, and they would immediately see that sign," Kelly said.
Haupt said Kelly had been advised not to return to the state Capitol for the rest of the day on Wednesday.
The Madison, Wis.-based Freedom from Religion Foundation has placed the sign in several state Capitol buildings across the country.
As to Kelly's claims that the sign mocks religion, foundation co-President Dan Barker said: "He's kind of right, because the last couple of sentences do criticize religion, and of course, the beginning is a celebration of the winter solstice. But that kind of speech is protected as well – speech that is critical and speech that is supportive."
The foundation does not approve of the nativity scene, Barker said.
"We atheists believe that the nativity scene is mocking humanity," by suggesting that those who do not believe in Jesus will go to hell, Barker said. "But notice that we are not defacing or stealing nativity scenes because we disagree with their speech."
Signs in other states have been targets of vandals, Barker said.
In Wisconsin, someone threw acid on it one year, and some people turned it around and hid it in the back rooms of the state Capitol, and in Washington state, someone walked it out of the Capitol and threw it away, Barker said. The Washington state sign was later found in a ditch near a country radio station and returned to the capitol in Olympia.
This is the second year the Freedom from Religion sign has been at the Illinois State Capitol.
Haupt said in addition to the sign, the Nativity Scene and the Christmas tree, there is also a Soldiers' Angels wreath, and a tabletop display from the American Civil Liberties Union that says the group "defends freedom of religion." A Hanukkah menorah had also been on display until the Jewish Festival of Lights ended on Saturday.
For the second year in a row, the Capitol also has an aluminum Festivus pole commemorating the fictional holiday created in "Seinfeld."
Adam Harrington, cbs2chicago.com
Christmas Armistice, WWI, Today
Short Peace In A Terrible War
The Nationposted by John Nichols
on 12/24/2005 @ 10:48am
Alfred Anderson died last month at the very ripe old age of 109.But it was not the Scotsman's many years that made him remarkable at the endof his long life. It was that, to his last days, he well recalled participatingin the Christmas Truce of 1914 -- that brief respite from the carnage of World War I that saw soldiers of both sides in the conflict lay down their arms, climb out of their trenches and celebrate together along the 500-mile Western Front.
Anderson was the last surviving old soldier known to have participated in what he would refer to in his later years as "a short peace in a terrible war."
That peace, which was initiated not by presidents or prime ministers, but by the soldiers themselves, serves to this day as a reminder that war is seldom sonecessary -- nor so unstoppable -- as politicians would have us believe.So it comes as no surprise that the Christmas Truce of 1914 is a bit of history that many in power have neglected over the past 90 years. But Anderson's long survival, and his clear memory, made it impossible to write this chapter out of history.
On December 25, 1914, Anderson was an 18-year-old soldier serving with 5thBattalion, Black Watch, of the British Army, one of the first to engage in the bloody trench warfare that was the ugliest manifestation of a war that claimed31 million lives. But on that day, there was no violence.Rather, Anderson recalled in an interview on the 90th anniversary of thetruce, "there was a dead silence that morning, right across the land as far as you could see. We shouted 'Merry Christmas,' even though nobody felt merry."
The calls of "Merry Christmas" from the Brits were answered by Germanssinging: "Stille Nacht. Heilige Nacht. Alles Schlaft, einsam wacht."The Brits responded by singing "Silent Night" in English. Then, from thetrenches opposite them, climbed a German soldier who held a small tree lit with candles and shouted in broken English, "Merry Christmas. We not shoot. You not shoot."
Thus, began the Christmas Truce. Soldiers of both armies -- more than a million in all -- climbed from the trenches along the Western Front to exchange cigarettes and military badges. They even played soccer, using the helmets they had taken off as goalposts. And they did not rush to again take up arms. Along some stretches of the Front, the truce lasted into January of 1915.Finally, distant commanders forced the fighting to begin anew.Thus, it has ever been with war. As George McGovern, the decorated World WarII veteran who would become one of America's greatest champions of peace, "old
men (are always) thinking up wars for young men to die in."
But Alfred Anderson remembered, well beyond the century of two world wars andtoo many lesser conflicts, that the young men of opposing armies often have more in common with one another than they do with the old men who send them into battle.
Once, on a Christmas Day that ought not be forgotten, the young men decidedto make a short peace in a terrible war.The memory of the courage of those who chose, however briefly, to see the humanity in one another, and to lay down the arms of one of the most brutal wars this planet has ever seen, offers hope this weekend, as Christians mark the birth of the Nazarene who was called Prince of Peace. Perhaps, someday, we willmake a Christmas truce that lasts not merely through the hours of good cheer on this Holiday but the whole year long.
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Christmas Armistice
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Christmas Eve Service
The Lost Sheep, by Norma Boeckler
Christmas Eve Service, 4 PM Central Time.
Christmas Readings and Hymns
Bethany Lutheran Church
Bella Vista, Arkansas
Pastor Gregory L. Jackson
Hymn 77:1-6 All My Heart This Night Rejoices 2.25
The First Gospel
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
KJV Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins. 3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. 4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: 5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. 6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: 7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass. 8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. 9 O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!
The Place of Jesus’ Birth
KJV Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
#102 O Come All Ye Faithful 1:7
KJV Isaiah 9:2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
Virgin Birth
KJV Isaiah 7:10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying, 11 Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. 12 But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD. 13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
Incarnation
KJV Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
#109 While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks 1:35
KJV Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Sermon – God in the Flesh, The Incarnation, Immanuel (God With Us)
The birth of Christ is so much a part of the Scriptures that no one can separate the Incarnation from the rest of the Gospel and have anything left, except vague philosophy and charming stories.
The Virgin Birth of Christ begins at the start of all history. When Adam and Eve were expelled from Paradise. They had been given a perfect world, one they would have no labor and no pain. In their sinfulness they wrecked what God’s grace had given them. And yet, God’s grace was revealed again. Although Adam and Eve would both pay for their sin by being mortal, suffering our human woes, and laboring for a living. But God showed His grace again by promising them the Savior.
The Gospel in the Old Testament is comprised of all the prophecies of the coming Messiah, the promises of peace, forgiveness, and salvation. God also revealed how the Messiah would be born, how He would die for the sins of the world.
But the Son of God is not absent in the Old Testament. Already in Genesis the Angel of the Lord is portrayed as God. Lutherans theologians have emphasized the Angel of the Lord being the Son of God before the Incarnation.
Angel of the Lord
The Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament is the Son of God before He was incarnate of the Virgin Mary.
How do we know that?
The Angel of the Lord is not just an angel. He is called God.
KJV Genesis 16:7 And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. 8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. 9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. 10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. 11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son. The Angel of the Lord clearly identified Himself as God:
KJV Genesis 22:11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. 12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
At the Jabbok River, Jacob wrestled with a man, who had the power to give him permanent limp.
KJV Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
This is God speaking:
KJV Genesis 22:15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
The Angel of the Lord speaks from the burning bush, and the Angel is God.
KJV Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. 3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. 4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
In the Gospel of John, Jesus identified Himself with the I AM of the Burning Bush:
KJV John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
This is only a slight look at the Son of God as the Angel of the Lord. When I teach this to New Testament students, they go into shock because they have never heard this. In fact, it was new to me until I read the orthodox theologians. In other words, there is so much Gospel in the Old Testament that no one can grasp the complexity.
All of this was done by God for man, not because of our merit, but because of His grace.
The ministry of the Savior began at Creation, as the Word of God, commanding the universe into being. This ministry continued with the Angel of the Lord and much more involving the Holy Trinity.
The Old Testament is centered on the Gospel of the coming Savior.
Noah was preached the Gospel:
KJV 2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Abraham believed in God and was justified by faith.
KJV Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Moses preached the Gospel.
All the prophets were inspired by the Holy Spirit to warn people about wandering away from the Word, rebelling against the Word. But they also promised the Messiah, and in doing so, created faith by the work of the Spirit.
The prophet told Ahaz to ask for a miracle (a sign). Ahaz was too proud to ask for one, so the prophet said the king would get one anyway. This miracle was to be the ultimate miracle granted by God to man, and it came because of an evil king:
Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Skeptics have battled against this, hammer and tong. The Methodists changed their own founder’s hymn, away from the words “offspring of the Virgin’s womb.”
Imagine turning against the founder of the denomination – in their own hymnal. Next thing you know, they will take the denominational name off the hymnal, and magazine, too. (Their magazine failed, by the way.)
Apostates like to play with words and say, “That is used for young woman, so it only means – a young woman will conceive.” First of all the terms overlap, so that maiden necessarily implies innocence. Secondly, there is no miracle involved in a woman bearing children according to nature. Third, the Hebrew word means “virgin” and as Luther said, “I will give you $100 if you can prove otherwise.” The New Testament reflects this in Mary asking how she could possibly have a child.
Most instructive is the opposition, which has been shown in so many ways. The RSV (product of the National Council of Churches) removed “virgin” from its translation of Isaiah 7:14, in the 1950s. If it did not happen, why is it so important?
The Virgin Birth is important because it is the expression of the Two Natures (divine and human) and Jesus being God in the flesh.
KJV John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The apostates cannot find the Virgin Birth in John, but John 1:14 clearly teaches it in another way. The Word became flesh, another phrase for the Virgin Birth.
By removing the Incarnation, the apostates exclude the Atonement and justification by faith. Faith no longer matters – only human philosophy and good works.
The birth of Jesus is humbling, because God shows His power in the midst of rejection, poverty, and weakness. Even today we are shocked at someone having a baby at home, but Jesus was born as an outcast in a stable, not in a palace or medical facility. Mary, as the most honored woman of history, had no one to care for her except her husband.
Surely the power of the age were looking in another direction for the Messiah they desired and feared. Herod was not a Jew, so he knew the prophecy about the Messiah coming when the throne passed to a non-Jew. He was afraid. The religious leaders looked for a great and mighty Messiah, but one more like a prince, ruler, king, military leader. So instead, the God revealed His Son through the angels to ordinary working men, to shepherds.
One child explained best of all why God revealed the Messiah as a baby in a manger (feeding trough), in a stable. “No one is afraid of a baby.” There are so many stories of people trembling in terror before a tyrant. Surely God in the flesh would be even more awe-inspiring. Yet God chose a time and place and form that drew people to His Gospel of forgiveness.
Luke’s Account
KJV Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. 2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) 3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. 4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. 6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. 8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
#646 Silent Night 4:38
Heavenly Host
Luke 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. 15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. 16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
The Prayers and Benediction
#87 Joy to the World 1:20
Definition of a Congregation
"Thus too, if our confidence is to begin, and we become strengthened and comforted, we must well learn the voice of our Shepherd, and let all other voices go, who only lead us astray, and chase and drive us hither and thither. We must hear and grasp only that article which presents Christ to us in the most friendly and comforting manner possible. So that we can say with all confidence: My Lord Jesus Christ is truly the only Shepherd, and I, alas, the lost sheep, which has strayed into the wilderness, and I am anxious and fearful, and would gladly be good, and have a gracious God and peace of conscience, but here I am told that He is as anxious for me as I am for Him." Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, IV, p. 86. Third Sunday after Trinity, Second Sermon, Luke 15:1-10
Most congregations define themselves on their websites.
Strangely, many were talked into mission statements years ago, not knowing that the term "mission statement" was a product of Management by Objective, Peter Drucker. This MBO was adopted by the Church Growth Movement as the magical way to transform congregations of all denominations. And they did. They spoke to the Old Adam in all of us, encouraging people to think in terms of organization, management, and numbers.
One chemical engineer at Dow Corning told me that every single department there had a mission statement. I have seen mission statements posted in hospital elevators, near the safety certificates. Congregations often have mission statements on their websites. The mission statements are so generic, bland, and pan-Christian that the same one could be published on a Presbyterian, Lutheran, or Roman Catholic website. Even the Catholics have tried to blend in with everyone, using the Community Church name.
The Lutheran Church in America was conducting mission statement exercises with subsidized congregations long before Missouri and WELS considered it something new to try.
Nevertheless, congregations have found a step lower than the mission statement, the inevitable apostasy from church-as-a-business. The next step downward is worship-as-entertainment. Chicaneries deny it, but the model deliberately followed is entertainment. Every religious TV show is created and produced as entertainment.
The founders of religious TV confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, "We are following the entertainment model." Even the more serious types, like Billy Graham, focused on gimmicks to get people to come for the thrill and stay for the sermon. Graham liked popular stars, warning people to come extra early for Johnny Cash, making such a case for the press of the crowd in South Bend than many stayed away.
Congregations proclaim entertainment worship when they boast about their music, choirs, bell choirs, and "excellence in worship" as First VP Huebner says on his website.
The blend of progressive and classic, contemporary and traditional, along with a professional excellence in everything from our worship to our website has attracted hundreds of visitors and new members to Grace Church in recent years.
Coffee shops (Huebner's Soul Cafe) and food courts (Willow Creek) follow, but the worst is yet to come. "Grab a snack and a drink and come inside for the service." Victory of the Cinema, soccer camp.
Entertainers dodge the name Lutheran because they want to blend in with everyone else. A casual reader will find that lapse everywhere, followed by dropping the name church, so that both Lutheran and church are missing - i.e. The CORE.
When Lutherans like Huebner write about their church name Grace, without emphasizing the Means of Grace, they are not confessional Lutherans. The day will come when those ministers are not even Lutheran in their teaching and preaching. Time of Grace is a good example of that trend. Notice how Chicaneries take every opportunity to disassociate their congregation's name from that odious word Lutheran.
I first saw that trend in 1978, when LCA Pastor Sherman Hicks admitted that he never invited prospects to "Grace Lutheran Church" but to "Grace Church."
The purpose of the Christian congregation, following the Biblical example, is simply to provide the Means of Grace in worship and teaching. Pastoral visitation is the only legitimate work of a congregation - beyond the teaching and preaching of the Word.
Everything in a congregation reflects upon the church's belief in the efficacy of the Word or rejection of that efficacy. When trust in the Word alone is missing, the congregation is anxious to make up for God's deficiencies by marketing their appeal, by hiding all those obstacles (like closed communion) that might get in the way of institutional power.
Nothing says more about a congregation than its worship service description and its statement (missing or published) of faith. Three bad signs are:
1. The statement of faith is missing.
2. The statement is generic, pan-denominational.
3. The statement is borrowed verbatim from a Schwaermer church.
Long ago a former pastor admonished me to stay away from inerrancy as the leading principle. Freshly escaped from the LCA, I wanted to start with inerrancy. I see that tendency in many conservative congregations today, and it is understandable. Some even say - "We are not ELCA."
Inerrancy is not the Gospel, but an attribute of the Word. The Gospel Promises should lead the congregation's emphasis, and that statement should help people understand how forgiveness comes to people. I realize that UOJ has messed up the ability of pastors to communicate the Gospel, but if they return to the Biblical doctrine, they will have no trouble ejecting UOJ. Precious few are the laity who understand the mumbo-jumbo of UOJ; the ones who think they do are illiterate.
Many ministers want to point to their beautiful church buildings or brag that they work in a purple palace, in a corner office. F. Pieper has a good corrective about that notion.
"Let us learn more and more to look upon the Lutheran Church with the right kind of spiritual eyes: it is the most beautiful and glorious Church; for it is adorned with God's pure Word. This adornment is so precious, that even though an orthodox congregation were to consist of very poor people let us say nothing but woodchoppers - and met in a barn (as the Lord Christ also lay here on earth in a barn, on hay and straw), every Christian should much, much rather prefer to affiliate himself with this outwardly so insignificant congregation, rather than with a heterodox congregation, even if its members were all bank presidents and assembled in a church built of pure marble. Let us be sure that our flesh, and the talk of others does not darken the glory of the orthodox Church, or crowd it out of our sight." Francis Pieper, The Difference between Orthodox and Heterodox Churches, and Supplement, Coos Bay, Oregon: St. Paul's Lutheran Church, 1981, p. 47.
Wednesday, December 23, 2009
From Appleton - The Entertainment Capital of WELS - Another Farce
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "From Appleton - The Entertainment Capital of WELS ...":
I contacted Engelbrecht via e-mail expressing my concerns about CORE several months ago. To date, no response. Ditto SE Wis. DP Rutschow. SP Schroeder, however, did respond and has been taking action.
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Light From Light:
At St. Peter’s December 14, 2009 call meeting, our Church Council President announced that the council had amended Pastor Glende’s job description to read “lead pastor,” and that we would be calling an “associate pastor.”
I moved to table the call because I believed that our congregation did not have enough information to ratify Pastor Glende as lead pastor, and call an associate. I believed that the council needed to better communicate with Pastor Christenson to better understand why he left after only seven months. Also, without going into any specifics, I cited a long letter that I had sent to the council and my pastors back at the beginning of November which raised important issues. I did not mention any of the specifics of my letter because I believed that that would be beyond the bounds of a call meeting.
Another layman asked whether there were additional actions or steps that needed to be taken before we issued a new call, and Pastor Glende replied, “If we had to do things, if there was anything that needed to take place before we could call again, then District President Engelbrecht wouldn’t allow us to issue a call.” District President Engelbrecht did provide our congregation with a call list of five candidates that he believed were suitable to be an associate pastor.
The argument against the motion was that neither Pastor Glende, nor our church council, nor District President Engelbrecht believed that any additional steps needed to be taken. District President Engelbrecht did attend and participate in our call meeting. When he was not speaking, he sat in the back, and chatted with Pastor Skorzewski.
The motion to table the call failed. However, it did receive a smattering of timid “ayes.” After the meeting, another layman estimated that the motion to table received about a third of the votes present. (I thought it probably received less than that, but there was no official count). St. Peter congregation did call Pastor Wayne Shevey to be our associate pastor with a unanimous vote. This is a divine call, and it is our prayer that God will bless St. Peter through this call.
On Thursday, December 17, 2009, I met with Pastor Glende, and he provided me with the church council’s official response to my letter. The council’s response was a letter that summarily and unanimously rejected every one of the concerns I had raised as being either false or without merit.
May the Lord be with his Church, his Bride, his Chosen People “to the very end of the age.” (Matthew 28:20). “The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen.” (Revelation 22:21).
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GJ - More than one person wonders about the glue that holds this farce together. A layman raises legitimate concerns and finds them batted down by the typical WELS homie attitudes. Engelbrecht is bending over backwards to favor, protect, and promote the worst of Fox Valley, the antithesis of Lutheran doctrine and worship.
But let us take a gander at Engelbrecht's leadership. He has no problem with Parlow's St. Mark Depere cult being a member of another denomination. He has no apparent problem with Parlow, Ski, Glende, Buske, and Bishop Katie worshiping at a Babtist conference (lovin' it). Engelbrecht has no objections, as far as anyone can tell, about Ski and Katie studying at Granger Community Church. How about Dirt or Story or Catalyst. Silence.
Ski will be teaching the district about evangelism again--or--How to turn $250,000 into 9 members, in one year!
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Pastor L has left a new comment on your post "From Appleton - The Entertainment Capital of WELS ...":
Just weeks after coming to the Northern Wisconsin District five years ago I learned the lay of the land. One area pastor even verbalized it when he said to me, "It's a good ol' boys district."
That will not change as long as Doug Engelbrecht remains as District President, a post he's held for upwards of twenty years. While I must respect the office, long ago I lost respect for the man holding it.
A seven-month pastorate is unheard of in the WELS. The district presidents have agreed not to extend a call to a pastor until he's been at his current church FOUR YEARS. As I understand it, Pastor Christenson was spared 3 1/2 more years in Appleton because a more kind-heart DP included him on call lists in his district. It wasn't because DP Engelbrecht was trying to help the ministry!
It amazes me that more lay people at St. Peter aren't asking, "Why did Pastor Christenson leave so soon." Golly, usually when there's a change in pastors it's headline news. Somehow this got buried on page twenty at St. Peter!
Sad to say, we're becoming a synod of cover-ups. I,for one, plan to repent in the new year and ask more questions.
I probably won't ask my district president, though. There are many times in my five years that I've left phone messages and e-mail messages and never received a response from DP Engelbrecht. My circuit pastor has said, "You mean you didn't hear from Doug? He said he was going to contact you."
So, now you know why I'm not too worried about getting in trouble with my district president. I don't think he knows my phone number or e-mail address!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "From Appleton - The Entertainment Capital of WELS ...":
Has Mt. Olive gone CG now too? It's getting very hard to find a good church in Appleton. I agree with the previous poster though: Riverview and St. Paul are conservative. You can add St. Luke, Little Chute to the "safe" list. What a sorry state WELS is in when one has to make lists of safe churches. Appleton does need to wake up. The derelict DP needs to be ousted at the next district conference, and the conservative churches need to get behind a strong candidate who is willing to openly oppose the nonsense going on up there.
By the way, conservative Lutherans in the Milwaukee area may want to look in to Trinity Lutheran downtown, an LCMS congregation that still uses the Lutheran Hymnal.
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GJ - The Shrinkers worked hard for 30+ years to bring the Lutheran Church to this low point. It will take the Word, the Confessions, and time to rectify the situation.
YuleVille Has Added Another Ornament to the Tree
I had to upgrade the image to show what happened to the January issue of Forward in Christ (WELS). "A Lutheran Voice" has been added to the masthead.
The Chicaneries took away all references to the synod. They did it in baby steps, reacted to complaints, back-pedaled a little, then continued the agenda. The Conference of Pussycats said the congregations should call themselves Lutheran, but the magazine and hymnal did not.
I know the adiaphora arguments, which prove the synod leaders know nothing about the Book of Concord and less about its history. When there is a confessional crisis, not even the matters of indifference can be surrendered.
The Shrinkers said, "To grow as much as possible, to hide our identity and gain the world's favor, we have to get rid of the Lutheran label and the odious WELS label." They got what they wanted.
KJV John 12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue: 43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
WELS Viewed from the Inside
Hi little boy, we are taking over your group too.
I have man-hands, but I'm a girl.
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Nominate Chicanery Awards Here":
Bad spelling, not knowing German, and CG all symptoms of the the WELS trying to educate men for the ministry on the cheap. The men know it, too, so enough of them aren't properly motivated to do better at studies, and learn German well--beyond the two-year requirement.
Here's the history of the rise and decline of the WELS (some details of which you mentioned before). Through the 1970s tuition was cheap, and one knew that he'd get back whatever he paid into the system once in the ministry. Then, once the 1970s crowd graduated, they changed it so synodical monies went toward missions and not so much toward synodical schools. So the guys who went through the system nearly free also got the synod to subsidize their careers!
So the inexpensive schooling ended, and then guys started working a lot during college and seminary just to make ends meet, even working all hours of the night and weekend, paying money into the system they knew they'd never see again.
Ironically, I met one of the guys who went through the system when it was nearly free. He made enough money to meet all expenses during college and seminary mainly by typing other guys term papers!. He was shocked that I didn't know German any better than I did. I told him that not only was knowing it better not required (two years German minimum), but after all the odd jobs I worked to pay to graduate, I had no motivation or time left for knowing German better. Moreover, I told him that if I had been supported like he had been in the past, not only would I have had the time for more academic pursuits, but I would be as impressed with the WELS system and theological system as he was, and thus I'd learn German well just to become expert in that system. However, from what I saw and experienced and know, the liberal theological schools and seminaries are just as cheap and provide a better education (accredited all the way).
What happened to the WELS is they started to believe their own propaganda, so they expect young men to be motivated purely by their message, which is the souped up Gospel, that is, UOJ-turbo charged Gospel, and that this is enough and they don't even have to spend much money on them. Anyway, they were wrong, and now they are putting out poorly educated clergy who spell bad, forgot whatever German they learned, and get involved in CG due to poor theology.
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GJ - WELS was still giving back all prep, NWC, and seminary tuition at graduation in 1987, but they began taking that away soon after. The account above would also fit Missouri and the ELCA segments, pre-merger, because tuition was low and home congregations chipped in.
The old mission theme was, "That light is brightest at home which shines afar." Most pastors come from large congregations. Now synods and congregations both spend their income on themselves while letting future pastors graduate (if they do) with huge debt loads unrelated to future income.
WELS took back the graduation bonus in the name of saving money, got the biggest charitable gift in history from St. Marvin of Schwan, and still went broke.
Still, the money picture is a reflection of bad theology pumped from the cesspools of the Reformed. Many WELS leaders truly believed the synod would grow from enormous expenditures of money. I heard more than one Mequon student gush over how much ELCA spent on public relations. I wondered, "Who is telling them this? Why do they think that matters?" I tried to tell the innocents that all ELCA received in national attention was a big story on DMS, a parish blowing up over radicalism.The glazed eyes remained.
America's Most Decorated Soldier Died Today
  COL Robert L. Howard | |
| Place of birth | Opelika, Alabama |
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| Place of death | Waco, Texas |
| Allegiance | United States of America  |
| Service/branch | United States Army |
| Years of service | 1956–1992 |
| Rank | Colonel |
| Unit | Army Special Forces MACV-SOG |
| Battles/wars | Vietnam War |
| Awards | Medal of Honor Distinguished Service Cross (2) Silver Star Defense Superior Service Medal Legion of Merit (4) Bronze Star (4) Purple Heart (8) |
| Other work | Employed by the Department of Veterans Affairs |
Robert L. Howard served in Viet Nam.
Ski Will Teach Everyone To Be Relevant...Again
SP Schroeder will also speak at this year's workshop.
For Ski Fans only! Hooters Calendar. You were warned.
March 6, 2010
Fox Valley Lutheran High School
5300 N Meade
Appleton, WI
Organized by the
Committee for Adult Discipleship
This Year
15 Be Relevant
– Pastor James Skorzewski
This session will explore why being relevant as a church is important and ways to be relevant as a church in order to reach young people ages nineteen through thirty-five who, statistically, are missing from churches today. Examples will be given from Pastor Ski’s experience with such worship at his church, the CORE, in Appleton as well as previous experiences at St. Marcus in Milwaukee.
Last Year
20. Be Relevant – Pastor “Ski” James Skorzewski
This session will explore how relevant worship can be used to reach young people ages 19-35 who, statistically, are missing from churches today. Examples will be given from Pastor Ski's experience with such worship at St. Marcus
Nominate Chicanery Awards Here
The time has come to inaugurate the annual Chicanery Awards, given for the most outrageous promotion of Church Growth stunts in Lutherdom.
Some think the award will be called the Chicken, but there is a better name to use, as all good farmers know.
Missouri and ELS members may participate as well.
The nominations will be wide open and anonymous. Any suggestions will be weighed carefully before allowing the comments to come through. Since so many reader are WELS pastors, spelling does not count. Just git reasonable close.
My apologies to the offended, but this is LCMS CGrowthism.
Say It Ain't So, Joe
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Stuff I Find When Looking for Something Else - Rip...":
Joe Krohn said: "I don't think anyone is talking about changing doctrine."
If I had a dollar for every time I heard this I could fund the CORE single-handedly. Yet if Krohn's statement is based in any reality whatsoever, why would you see a video like the one Wisconsin Lutheran Chapel put out available here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlp5uMDB7Mk
The DOCTRINE promoted in this trite little chancel drama is nothing short of Norman Vincent Peale or Robert Schuller.
The message? Be positive. Glass is half full not half empty! You could see that "full gospel" on NBC on Sunday evenings on Extreme Makeover Home Edition. It may not be the entire preaching that goes on that WL Chapel, but it is what they chose to promote to the entire world to see. What an incredible use of time and public preaching opportunity. Very sad.
No change Joe? You are completely blinded to what's happening. It is doctrine changed. The message is about, be cool with us, we are relational etc. Gone is any sort of trust in the Law and Gospel.
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Church From Scratch - Doebler's Metaphor - Not Mine
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "More Humor from Joe Krohn (Patterson's Buddy) and ...":
I like your blog, it's very informative and witty.
It seems like the C&C saps creativity and style from it's followers; they always sound so 'hackneyed'.
That metaphor you use, "Church from Scratch"? That pretty much sums up the whole church growth movement.
I would know, I've been in one.
I look forward to your next post.
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GJ - Doebler began a ChurchFromScratch.net website where he lauded all the Church Growth heroes. I looked up the content of his initial website and commented upon it, pointing out that "Old Scratch" is a common nickname for Satan. The old URL switches to the Rock and Roll link. Try it out, where I linked it that way above.
The Rock and Roll Church is a boil on Patterson's backside. He has defended it and promoted it. The Conference of Pussycats met at Patterson's church and found no sin in Doebler shamelessly copying Schwaermer worship and sermons.
After all the money has been spent--$50,000 on a full-time female assistant alone --they have only a handful at their weekly entertainment gatherings.
Doebler thought their salvation depended on a $200,000 grant from the Antioch Foundation - for a worship leader! They still got $20,000. And they have one little web page with a map. They do not even have a title on their home page file, so the browser just announces the browser name. Tim, Joe, Stetzer - help Doebler out.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Church From Scratch - Doebler's Metaphor - Not Min...":
Imitation without understanding why something works generally results in failure. C&C is too lazy or ignorant to even grasp this concept. That being said, why would anyone want to follow them?
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GJ - But wait. Bishop Katie went to the Dirt Conference to find out exactly how it works. Oh, I get it. She also went to Granger, two Drives, maybe Catalyst, Story.
I think you are right.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Church From Scratch - Doebler's Metaphor - Not Min...":
My LWMS group was hood-winked into giving mission offerings to Doebler's church. Oh the equipment they needed to greatly enrich their services! I sure hope the instruments(sorry, I mean equipment) were in fine working order.
My pastor, and neighboring pastors, were lead to believe that Christ The Rock was "innocently implementing a contemporary service." Not so innocent when you have Patterson the C&Cer leading the way.
"I want my money back!"
disclaimer-Yes, Patterson has a family. Yes, it is Christmas time.
Why is he buddies with Gurgel? Think about it dude! Just think about it! And do not forget the C&C conference and Exponential.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Church From Scratch - Doebler's Metaphor - Not Min...":
The South Central Babtist district is the red-headed step-child of the Southeastern Wisconsin District. Bishop Glaeske shakes his head as Patterson guides the CG movement. With Gurgle in the fold you'll see Patterson's grant writing increase as the synod debt grows larger.
The above poster is right: Wake UP!
It amazes me how Gurgle ran the confessionals out of the WELS yet the Changers still remain.?
Read a Typical Response to the Glende/Ski Pop-Tart Pix
Read and weep, you spineless Doctrinal Pussycats and Circuit Popes. This is from a young couple devoted to orthodox Lutheran doctrine. They have long-standing ties to the Wisconsin Synod. Every time you dolts fail to do your minimal duty, you dump another bucket of manure on people like this.
It's been nearly a week since I have seen those pictures of Ski and Glende and I am still utterly and completely appalled at these guys. I am just without words for their childish, immature ways. Unbelievable. I remember this same feeling when I left ELCA - "How could they throw out the very Word which is supposed to be the basis of all teaching and salvation!" I NEVER thought I would see a similar kind of blindness and complete apathy sweep across a supposedly Confessional and conservative Lutheran body. And I am even more dismayed at the comments that people leave for these guys - High fiving them all the way! Amazing, simply amazing. What blindness, what deception, what an unbelievably beguiled and desensitized lot Satan has captured. It makes me think of the line in Apocalypse Now - "The Horror! The Horror!" My wife is incredulous as well.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Read a Typical Response to the Glende/Ski Pop-Tart...":
"It makes me think of the line in Apocalypse Now - 'The Horror! The Horror!'"
There are many more of us who feel the same way. It is time to tell the scammers to take a hike. I am tired of being misled and used.
Wisconsin Lutheran Willow Creek Chapel in Madison To Hold Christmas Day Service - With Women Leading
Trapp had this WELS church join the Willow Creek Association.
They are still WC in spirit, if not in URL fellowship.
Willow Creek Chapel will have a Christmas Day service for the first time in 20 years.
Trapp will not hold the service. Instead, several women will lead the worship service. Yes, rumor has it that Trapp handed over the planning and leadership of the service to two women on his staff, but a couple of men have been asked as window dressing to do some readings. I hope they have badges, like Token Male Lector.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Wisconsin Lutheran Willow Creek Chapel in Madison ...":
A WELS church cannot subscribe to the Willow Creek Association statement of faith:
"All believers are members of the body of Christ, the one true church universal. Spiritual unity is to be expressed among Christians by acceptance and love of one another across ..... denominational lines."
Why does St. Mark? Isn't it WELS?
Stuff I Find When Looking for Something Else - Ripped from the Pages of the Church and Change Secret Listserve
WELS disciplined him by giving him world missionary oversight.
From the Top-Secret Church and Chicanery Listserve:
A more contemporary church leader and former president of WELS, Carl Mischke, once closed a WELS convention with words that I will paraphrase from memory, "We must examine everything we say and examine everything that we do so that more are saved."
Grace and peace from Hong Kong, John C. Lawrenz
[GJ - SP Naumann gave Church Growth its start, but Mischke was Kelm's finger-puppet for really backing the movement. Mischke supposed said Kelm could join any denomination he wanted. No kidding - Kelm loves every denomination except his own.]
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John,
That was pure gold - thanks
Don Patterson
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In closing my goal isn’t to change the way churches currently perform worship, I am just wanting to open up new churches that are outside of the outside of the box idea.
www.gotocore.com is a great ministry. I would encourage you to e-mail Pastor Ski who’s (sic) church isn’t even open yet, and no members. Ask him how much love he has experienced from his fellow brothers as they begin to launch into new un charted territories.
God Bless
Brian Arthur Lampe
CEO-ministries.com
[GJ - Real love--of God's Word and the Confessions--would have meant extending Ski, Glende, and Ash the Left Foot of Fellowship, so they could have become the Calvinists they always were. Why fund Reformed doctrine with Lutheran money?]
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2) A congregation may be in a "dying" community, such as a rural area or a small town. I wonder how many of our Michigan communities are "dying" right now due to this economy? If you have a small town where population is stagnant (no one moving in for the past 5 years, for example), or a town where the major employers are shutting down and people are moving away for work, it shouldn't surpise (sic) anyone if this is reflected in church attendance and membership.
Steve Kurtzahn
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Shanna:
I found your reply to Jan Nelson to be respectful and helpful, as well as thoughtful and thought-provoking. Yours is an example of the style of communication we are looking for on the Church and Change listserv.
Thank you.
Jim Aderman
Church and Change, moderator [GJ - also a founder, ex-retired/fired pastor, contributing editor - Forward in Chicanery, FIC.]
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Aaron,
I believe you have accurately understood what I meant by "effective" and using the word "faithful" in a seemingly unloving way. Below are the three senarios (sic) I had used at the C & C conference as I discussed relevance.
John Parlow "Dream big...the Word works!"
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John,
Thands (sic) for illustrating so well some key issues we face as we consider how best to communicate the message entrusted to us. You mentioned previously that you used these illustrations in your presentation at the recent Church and Change Conference. I wasn't able to make your session (there were way too many "must-attend" offerings at this conference). Do you have materials/handouts that
you could post or otherwise make available for those who missed it?
Mike Borgwardt
Crossroads Church, Chicago [GJ - Notice the omission of Lutheran; at least Borgwardt is honest. But does he take Lutheran money?]
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Joe Krohn Itches for Growth -
I have been following this Dr. Sweet thread and it's (sic) morphs with great interest. This is a great example of the verse "iron sharpens iron" a pastor friend of mine uses quite often.
Just to interject, and this may have been stated already; yes, we live in the end times, but we are not growing and there are churches that have experienced phenomenal growth in the last 10 to 15 years. We have to do something. I don't know if I'll be at the conference, but I am somewhat put off by the fact that it is assumed by some on this list that some of us cannot discern what is good and what is bad. The casual/baby Christian/low end of the spectrum faith worshipper is not going to be at the Conference. These are people with strong faiths who show genuine concern about the future of our Synod and theology. Reaction on this list is proof of that. We are pretty much WELS Christians who are very
involved in our churches. Thank the Lord that Luther was able to discern. Luther is a great example to look at in times like these. Take what is good and throw out the bad. But you have to remain relevant in today’s society and if we need to bring in someone who can help us, I say go for it! When I see churches like Lakewood in Houston buy the old Omni because of their growth, or Saddleback
in California, or Chandler Christian Church right in my back yard buying up chunks of real estate to expand, I think they must be doing something right!! I would never approve of their theologies, but hey, why can’t we take what they are doing right and graft it on our theology? We’re pretty proud of our
theology aren’t we? At least that’s the impression I get from this list. We have to get proactive. I fear our Synod has waited too long. At times I grieve for WELS. We just need to get as evangelical as the Evangelicals are and be like it says in our name: Wisconsin EVANGELICAL Lutheran Synod.
God Bless you all!
Joe Krohn
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Dear Redeemed and fellow Brothers and Sisters of the WELS,
This internet, what a blessing...and a curse.
I don't think anyone is talking about changing doctrine. I think we all agree that there are different ways of doing ministry as long as it is Biblical and I haven't read anything on these threads that was
un-Biblical. I see alot (sic) of 'iron sharpening iron' as a good friend of mine likes to say. I think we all agree that in general we can do a better job as a Synod since our growth has been stagnant. If we can glean some sucessful (sic) strategies from other sources we should. We may even convert some of these 'heretics'. But I think this is the rub. I think some have trouble separating these methods
from their doctrine. Because it is their idea, somehow it is intertwined with their doctrine. It's kind of like separating the sin from the sinner. Maybe that's a bad analogy, but it works. Or taking a secular song and changing the lyrics to make it sacred. Some folks just can't separate the old relationship of the melody with the old lyrics even though the new song is God pleasing. (especially for someone who may never have heard the 'old' song.) It's just a point of perspective. I hope this helps.
Blessings to you all,
Joe Krohn
Tuesday, December 22, 2009
More Humor from Joe Krohn (Patterson's Buddy) and Tim Felt-Needs (Joe's Buddy)
Joe Krohn is Luther Rocks (Beethoven picture)
Tim Felt-Needs often assumes his Icha-slang nickname, instead of Niedfeldt or Niedermeyer.
I had a long conversation with a pastor. He said Ichabod often makes him upset, but people chimed in with their comments and proved I was right after all. The pastor and I agree about most things.
Joe Krohn started a new blog again, with his LutherRocks name on it. To defend the photos of WELS pastors Glende and Ski, one of them did a bad PhotoShop with my head on Ski's overfed body. They had to add their puerile remarks, too.
I am glad that the defenders of Patterson, Ski, and Glende work so hard to prove the banality and deceit of Church and Change. Oh no-o-o. They are not Chicaneries. Neither is Patterson, who flew up to the November Chicanery conference, all the way from Texas.
Joe Krohn wants everyone to boycott this blog, but that will be hard to do since the only ones on his blog are Joe and I. And Joe is a follower of Ichabod. He will boycott Ichabod "when the time comes, " he claims. I hope everyone pays attention to Joe Do-As-I-Say, Not-As-I-Do. The servers will break down from all the bandwidth use here.
Joe often hides his identity when commenting. But get on his blog and try to make a comment. He demands an identity before a comment can be posted. Joe Do-As-I-Say, Not-As-I-Do.
Tim is busy back-pedaling on his tedious blog, trying to excuse his digital bed-wetting.
Did I say the Chicaneries are copy-cats, like their mentors Paul Calvin Kelm and John Parlow? Twice these two adolescents have tried to counter my carefully researched work and clever art (much of it donated by WELS laity) by imitating my blog, by stealing the very graphics they weep over. And they say copying is a crime. But it is not a crime when they do it, because...they are punishing me for making a statement with PhotoShops and actual evidence.
The trouble with amateurs is their lack of persistence, lack of patience, and lack of humor. Both of them are quitters. They get steamed up fast, just as Shakespeare wrote - "A little pot is soon hot." They feel the sting of satire, because everyone is laughing at their cause. But they are incapable of satire, mistaking their dishonest buffoonery for a counter-argument.
Have they made a doctrinal statement excusing Reformed doctrine and methods? Pietistic posturing in the mode of "You are a bad person" is their best gambit.
Tim likes to boast about his movie theater church (copied from the Schwaermer, of course). A respected Lutheran writer visited Tim's church and just about hurled, shocking WELS members with a precise depiction of this Babylon for the Boobacracy. Grab a snack while walking into church. We are trying to live up to Ski's high standards.
Tim is prolific with websites. So why not help out Doebler's poor one-pager? His Church From Scratch is facing Christmas with just a map on the websty, yet Max und Moritz waste their time with fakery.
Joe Krohn was so full of his Rock and Roll Church that he began--and quit a blog--to promote it. His modesty, a candle to his merit, prevented him from using his own name or his photo. "This little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine, when the time comes." WELS has lavished funds on Doebler's church, but no one wants to come. They canned Krohn as Kapellmeister, but that didn't help either. Still, Joe has appointed himself as a musical and doctrinal expert. Why not devote all that energy to showing us how, Joe Do-As-I-Say, Not-As-I-Do?
The church you love to mock has followers all over the world, Joe. God has accomplished that with the Word alone - without synod subsidies, foundation grants, or Thrivent bribes.
Please keep confirming that my perception is accurate. Who can prove the overabundance of false doctrine better than the adherents themselves?
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Irony alert - The Niedermeyer actor, Mark Metcalf, now owns a restaurant in Mequon, where teens were cited for an out-of-control toga party.
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