ICHABOD, THE GLORY HAS DEPARTED - explores the Age of Apostasy, predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, to attack Objective Faithless Justification, Church Growth Clowns, and their ringmasters. The antidote to these poisons is trusting the efficacious Word in the Means of Grace. John 16:8. Isaiah 55:8ff. Romans 10. Most readers are WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELCA. This blog also covers the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Left-wing, National Council of Churches denominations.
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Friday, September 7, 2012
Retired Pastor Raises Intuitu Fide Charge in Jesus' Quotion
Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "The Augustana Synod Understood the Biblical View o...":
Ichabod -
Without looking up the Scripture (as I am very tired right now); didn't Jesus go on, to tell His disciples: "If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could tell this mountain to uproot itself.......?" [Paraphrase]
In other words; I believe that Christ was telling His disciples: "Forget this business about having and asking for big faith; but exercise the faith that you presently [already] possess!" And, doesn't Scripture say that God apportions a measure of faith to his individual children? Actually, that question by Christ's disciples about increasing their faith was an insult. They had already been granted faith; they just needed to act within the present apportioned realms of that God given faith.
So, it is today in multiplied Christian households where God's children freeze at the very first experience of difficulty; whether it is financial, work related or, whatever. Instead of being like David (who "encouraged himself in the Lord"), Christians don't don't remind themselves of their faith as is the essence of the old Negro spiritual:
"I shall; I shall not be moved. I, shall; I shall not be moved;
Just like a tree; that's planted by the waters; I....shall not be moved!
Jesus is my Savior; I shall not be moved; Jesus is my Savior; I shall not be moved;
Just like a tree, that's planted by the water; I...., shall not be moved!"
The [above] aforementioned song I learned one Saturday night as an adolescent. My father had invited the black Detroit Lutheran minister, Rev. Percy Dumas, to preach for Sunday's Mission Festival; at Trinity Lutheran; Merritt Twp. Bay City. Mom and Dad invited Percy for Saturday evening supper and to spend the night with us. After supper Dad asked Pastor Dumas to play the piano in the living room and sing some Negro spirituals. I'll never forget that evening! There's nothing like singing spiritual songs and hymns that can have the effect of reminding us of the faith that the Lord has given us!
Nathan M. Bickel
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The Augustana Synod Understood the Biblical View of Faith - They Read Luther
The apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. Luke 17:5. There are those who hear and read the gospel and what is said by faith, and immediately conclude that they have a correct conception of what is faith. They think that faith is something which is altogether in their own power to have or not to have, as any other natural work. When in their hearts they begin to think that the doctrine is right, and believe it is true, they immediately conclude that faith is present. But as soon as they see and feel in themselves and others that no change has taken place, that they remain in their old ways, they conclude that faith is not sufficient, that they must have something more and greater than faith. Then they cry: "Faith alone does not do it." Why? Because there are so many who believe, and no better than before. Such people are those whom Jude in his epistle calls dreamers, who deceive themselves with their own dreams.
The true faith, of which we speak, cannot be manufactured by our own thoughts, for it is solely a work of God in us without any assistance on our part. It is God's gift and grace. Faith is something very powerful, active, restless, effective, which at one renews a person and regenerates him and leads him altogether into a new manner and character of life, so that it is impossible not to do good without ceasing. Just as natural as it is for the tree to produce fruit, so natural it is for faith to produce works.
Whoever has not this faith talks but vainly about faith and works, and does not know what he says. For he has not received it; he juggles with lies and applies Scriptures where they speak of faith and works to his own dreams and false thoughts, which are purely a human work. Whereas the Scriptures attribute both faith and works not to ourselves, but to God alone. We should therefore despair and pray to God for faith as the apostles did. When we have faith we need nothing more, for it brings with it the Holy Spirit, who not only teaches us all things, but also firmly establishes us in them, and leads us through death and hell to heaven.
Devotional Readings from Luther's Works -- For Every Day of the Year -, Augustana Book Concern, Rock Island, IL, 1915
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Professor Preus at Irvine, CA, is involved in the Wittenberg Latin school renovation. A big mall (German style) is going up right across the street, so that will draw a lot of people next to the building. They finally have architectural drawings for the renovation:
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Pipe Organ Concert - Historic St. John Lutheran Church - September 16, 2012, 3 PM
Ken Schurb Begging the Question - "Does the Lutheran Confessions' Emphasis on Subjective Justification Mitigate Their Teaching of Objective Justification?"
The UOJ contingent wanted me to read Ken Schurb's essay, "Does the Lutheran Confessions' Emphasis on Subjective Justification Mitigate Their Teaching of Objective Justification?" Concordia, Ft. Wayne sells the essay, which I read years ago.
I forwarded the PDF to Brett Meyer, who replied with the quotation illustrated above.
One part of the essay is correct -
The Confessions never use the word “justify” unless faith is at least in the immediate context. p. 4.
But the next sentence is dead wrong and misleading, because it makes an unwarranted claim:
And they never explicitly distinguish between objective and subjective justification. (The late Dr. Harry Huth used to point out these two facts to his symbolics classes at Concordia Theological Seminary Ft. Wayne. The present writer took his introductory courses in the summer of 1979, and reports both of these observations on the basis of first-hand experience.) p. 4.
The title of the essay and this clumsy thesis are prime examples of begging the question, a logical fallacy.
When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place. http://begthequestion.info/
The author begins with the assumption of two justifications in the Book of Concord, conceding there is only one (justification by faith) then claiming via a professor that there really are two justifications. The Book of Concord is just not explicit about this alleged fact.
Let us examine the Biblical basis for the Assumption of Mary, using the same kind of fallacy. The Bible never says that she was assumed into heaven. However, Mary appears in the Book of Acts and her death is never mentioned there or anywhere else in the New Testament, making this a real possibility. Nothing disproves the Assumption of Mary.
Here is another winner from the same essay, page 5:
But the scenario has its problems. Most obvious is the one Edward Preuss reports: “The Wurttemberg superintendent Burk experienced . . . [what] seemed to him like a faulty circle:
I am to believe and thereby become righteous. However, I cannot believe this before it is so. And yet, it is not so, for I am first to become righteous. (The Justification of the Sinner Before God, Edward Preuss, tr. by J.A. Friedrich Reprint. St. Louis, n.d.), 22.) “God be praised,” Preuss continues, “the case is different.” It can only be different, however, if one believes in objective justification. This gives him an object for his trust.
There is a place to join this “circle.”
Like I said before, Eduard Preuss is the Bo Derek of UOJ fanatics, an old favorite of Boomers. Preuss left the Lutheran Church for Romanism and used his considerable skills to promote the Immaculate Conception of Mary! Nevertheless, this fact about him is omitted from every UOJ citation. Preuss is introduced instead as a reliable orthodox Lutheran, not an Enthusiast who turned to Rome when he saw a brilliant sunset (see the Fuerbringer book). The Burk mentioned may be the Pietist who wrote an early endorsement of UOJ, recorded by Hoenecke in his Dogmatics.
The LCMS pastors begin with the framework of double-justification, then wedge all their data into that position, as this essay does.
The WELS pastors begin with world absolution. God has declared the entire world, "Not guilty!" Any questioning of that astonishing verdict is considered reason for excommunication. As they say in all the Hitler videos, "The irony will dawn on them later."
Both groups of pastors assume that their synods have taught this truth since the very beginning, whether it was Walther's discovery of the syphilis plague spreading from Bishop Martin Stephan or WELS turning down the loot from the union mission society (no Thrivent, we don't mean you - we love your money).
Both groups contain large numbers of pastors who know that UOJ/double-justification is a crock. Both groups have published materials that teach only justification by faith. Gausewitz and the KJV catechism are two examples easily obtained.
The title of this essay was never a sincere question. Instead, it was a feint, a set-up to make the reader think this was really a research topic when it was a polemic for double-justification. We should pity all the seminarians who accepted the professor's deceptive claims. I have seen similar assertions from the early Robert Preus and from Dan Deutschlander.
Relax readers, it is possible for someone to have erred. My own sins are confessed on a daily basis. Three blogs have been set up and dismantled for that onerous and time-consuming task.
UOJ specialists make it personal, writing, "I do not agree with you." In sorrow, I have to reply, "That does not matter. The issue is whether you agree with the Scriptures and the Confessions." I am only a curator of the Lutheran museum. I describe and stir up interest in the musty old exhibits. Admission is free. I do not have the power to silence anyone, to ban their feeble blogs, to cost them money.
A layman observed, "They criticize Luther endlessly, but Walther is never wrong about anything. No one dares to criticize the American Pope." A poorly-trained man with two years in the parish should not be the ruling norm of Lutheran doctrine in America. Did you think I meant Paul McCain? That fits too.
Luther earned a doctorate in theology. It is true that he studied at a Roman Catholic university and read endless amounts of false doctrine. That seemed to be God's way of preparing him for the Reformation. Pastors sometimes think of that when they rouse themselves to outline a Reformation sermon. Luther spent his life debating doctrine with false teachers. That sharpened his knowledge of the Scriptures and church history, as he observed.
Likewise, Chemnitz earned a doctorate in theology. He also debated doctrine with a host of opponents. He wrote a monumental set against the Council of Trent, but also defended Luther's doctrine against the Calvinists. Chemnitz was uniquely qualified to be senior editor of the Book of Concord and the Formula of Concord. Much the same could be said of the others. I was thinking that the lesser known Concordists and men like Hunnius would put all the synod lackey seminary professors to shame. We are in dire straits.
Lutheran pastors are so lazy and ignorant that they cannot acknowledge the growth of Robert Preus in his years of scholarship. He was definitely a UOJ cheerleader when he was also promoting Church Growth at Ft. Wayne. He changed his mind about both. His final book records his thoughts about justification by faith. Do the indolent notice, or are they too afraid to open a book that shreds their dogmatics notes?
PS - The Preuss citations in the Schurb reminded me that he promoted many of the current arguments in favor of UOJ, such as "your faith is in faith" or "I cannot believe unless I already have something to believe in, something already accomplished." They never argue, "As Eduard Preuss, who finished his career promoting Roman dogma used to say..."
That is why your curator has to dust off his old exhibits, bring them out the storage room (your storage, not mine) and display them again.
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