Some facts conveniently overlooked or not known by Joe Krohn, who gets his misinformation from buddy Don Patterson:
- CrossWalk was not allowed to join the district for many reasons.
- The District Mission Board did not start CrossWalk. Some local churches did with a Board of Directors, just like Baumler's model C and C parish. The Perish Assistants at The Love Shack promote this business model.
- Actually, a BoD for Crosswalk Lutheran Ministries, Inc. (check the Arizona State corporation commission web site) was formed from WELS members at Emmanuel, Tempe, and a couple of other WELS churches.
- CrossWalk has a Board of Directors making the decisions once everyone--women and children combined--has a say.
- CrossWalk has received all its money from Thrivent, wealthy WELS members, and grants.
- Gunn was never a tent-maker, in spite of what FIC claimed.
- The money for CrossWalk has dried up under the new district leadership, and Gunn is out of ammo.
- One rumor is that he is headed for that garden of apostasy, Wisconsin Lutheran College, to head a real campus church.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Busta Gut Speaks His Mind":
Confidential to Greg - The point was it is God growing Crosswalk as they HAVE been faithful to the Word. I know you enjoy being the Lone Ranger of Lutheranism and all, but the hallmark of faithfulness to the Word isn't always non-growth. Sometimes you seem to wear it like a red badge of courage. :)
Joe Krohn, Rock N Roll
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GJ - Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Joe. You tried to start a blog and you failed, so you coat-tail this one. You need to parrot my words. I am honored. But please try to read with comprehension and discernment. The only qualification is faithfulness to the Word, entirely lacking in your bunch of plagiarists, false teachers, and grant-grubbing frauds.
According to your measuring stick, Gunn is now a mere spitball in the war against the Means of Grace.
Meanwhile, Joe brags he can read minds: "I know you enjoy..."
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Clueless Joe Krohn has left a new comment on your post "Top Gunn Shrinking":
Greg,
You're always good for some laughs when I have downtime at work and I have nothing better to do, so why not indulge you at least for today. You live for these moments. Especially when you get your whitie tighties in a bunch about all of us 'apostates'.
To your facts...
Crosswalk's membership in WELS is pending just like Christ the Rock's because of the model. It doesn't jive with the WELS constitution of governing. I'm not really sure how this can be construed as non-biblical.
The were no funds to start CW so laypeople did with the approval of the DMB. Again, where is this a sin?
From what I recall of non-profit incorporation, all churches are required to file articles of incorporation. The articles are typically signed by the officers of the church who are laypersons. I guess you have been out of the loop for awhile.
The BOD does form a consensus based on input from the congregation. Is this sinful?
I didn't think it was a sin to accept offerings from WELS members. As far as grants and other gifts, it depends on where you draw the line and how legalistic you want to be.
The original call as it was drawn up was to be half time minister and he was to get another job to supplement his income. This is referred to as a tent minister and not maker. It's based on the Paul model. I'm assuming you were being facetious, but just in case. Obviously the FIC article was written before the changes in ministry.
As far as money drying up and Jeff Gunn taking another call; well that remains to be seen.
Joe Krohn
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GJ - Joe, a tent minister would minister to tents. Someone with WELS spelling acumen would say, "Past tents? Future tents?" Paul actually made tents to supplement his meager income, so a worker/pastor is called a tent-maker, a maker of tents, not a minister to tents. I will concede that illiterates in Church Growth may say--or even write--tent minister, but that does not keep the image evoked from being comical.
Please don't tentsup if I use a theological word correctly.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Top Gunn Shrinking":
Would anyone else hire the Top Gunn? He comes with so much excess baggage.
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