Intrepid Lutherans: ELS doctrine committee recommends AGAINST NIV 2011

Intrepid Lutherans: ELS doctrine committee recommends against NIV 2011:

Doctrine Committee recommendation regarding Bible translations

Many congregations of the ELS currently use the NIV (1984) Bible for worship and Christian education. This edition of the NIV will no longer be available for purchase at the end of 2011. It has been replaced with the NIV (2011) which makes significant changes to the text of the NIV (1984). 

These changes have diminished the accuracy of the NIV. Therefore, based on preliminary study of the NIV (2011), the Doctrine Committee recommends against the use of the NIV (2011). 

The Doctrine Committee recommends for use in the Evangelical Lutheran Synod translations such as: New King James Version (NKJV), English Standard Version (ESV), An American Translation (Beck, AAT), and the New American Standard Bible 1995 (NASB95). 

These translations are accurate and understandable. If a new Lutheran translation is prepared in the future this also could be an option for use in the ELS. The following essay from the WELS website is suggested for further study on this matter. (Other essays at that site are also of benefit.)

http://www.wels.net/sites/wels/files/Essay%20-%20Keller.pdf

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GJ - I found the report rather tepid and fuzzy.

The Lutheran translation that the ELS longs to own is the King James Version. Too bad that cannot be mentioned during the 400th Anniversary. The Olde Synodical Conference basks in hypocrisy, so why not pretend to like the KJV for one measly year?

Once again - Tyndale enrolled to study under Luther and Melanchthon. Name one translation family where that is true. The Tyndale became the KJV.

The lauded ESV is the Calvinist Packer version of the RSV. Paul McCain loves it, but he does not comprehend justification by faith, English grammar or spelling.

The NIV--owned by billionaire Murdoch--cleverly marketed itself by getting all the denominations involved, making all these professors part of the team. The Pentecostals were not going to criticize their man's work, and WELS was not going to criticize John Jeske's compromising, unionistic efforts.

I am not interested in a new Lutheran Bible. I like the KJV. I doubt whether the current crop of lazy-bones could get 3 John done in time before the Parousia. If they had invested their time in Biblical studies instead of running off to Fuller Seminary...  But that is why they galloped off the Gadarene cliff into the Schwaermer sea.

Brett Meyer Answers the AnonyMouse Tim Glende

They pretended they were going to a WELS pastoral conference. They also
skipped Professor Deutschlander in Atlanta to worship with Babtist Andy Stanley.

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Fake Blogger In Panic Mode":

It's interesting to me that he thinks that self-justifying, hyper self-defensive, psychotic rage-filled rants are somehow convincing.

And posting their own anonymous opinions criticizing Pastor Jackson, myself and others is the preferred method of convincing others? Illegally posting comments in my name and attempting to capitalize on them with your own personal critiques is the preferred method of convincing others? Disregarding the fact that I politely informed you that I didn't post the infantile comments and my request that they be removed is the preferred method of convincing others?

Most people can read what has been written and judge the merits of the discussion concerning doctrine, personal opinion and people's actions for themselves.

If your opinions are to have any possible shred of consideration you would post your real names. But you want to say anything and do anything and not have it affect how others would view you. As the only outspoken group of (W)ELS clergy you are the distinct antithesis of 1 Peter 3:15, "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

The Ichabod caption describing your actions is accurate - "They vowed that together they would blog for truth, courage, honor and truth - anonymously"

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GJ - The reprobate mind of Romans 1 is emerging with clarity in WELS - in all its parts, including the well known (among the clergy) homosexual pastors. Yes, the pastors know which ones are living as homosexuals. What is done? Nothing.

I was happy for the latest ignorant comment on the fake blog. I was motivated to Photoshop Fuerbringer into a quotation from the old Concordia Cyclopedia.

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Brett Meyer Answers the AnonyMouse Tim Glende":

If these fellas won't sign their own name and thus reveal their identity, what makes us think that they would have any inkling of contending for the faith once delivered unto the saints? They have shown that they are both ashamed of being Lutheran and also that they are nothing more than weather vanes.

Mid-Week Advent Service. December 7, 2011

"The blind receive their sight."
By Norma Boeckler

Advent, December 7, 2011

Pastor Gregory L. Jackson

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-lutheran-worship

Mid-Week Advent, Thursday, 7 PM Central

The Hymn # 62        O Come, O Come Emmanual            4.51
The Order of Vespers                                                         p. 41

The Psalmody            Psalm 2                                              p. 123
The First Lection                      
The Second Lection           
 The Sermon Hymn #657            Beautiful Savior                    4.24

Sanctified by the Word

The Prayers and Lord’s Prayer                                     p. 44

The Collect for Peace                                                       p. 45

The Benediction                                                               p. 45

The Hymn # 558     All Praise to Thee                           2.9

KJV Matthew 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. 7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? 8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. 9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. 10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. 11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

I.                     John’s mission – to send his followers to Jesus.

II.                 Jesus’ answer – to sanctify them with the Word and show Himself as the Messiah.

John had the greatest and most difficult work of all – to point to an ordinary looking man and said, “This is the Christ.”


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Narrow-minded Lutheran has left a new comment on your post "Mid-Week Advent Service. December 7, 2011":

Finally, someone gets it correct about the Baptist sending the diciples out so Jesus could speak His Word to them. Most pastors argue that the Baptist had a lapse of faith, since he was in prison.

Thanks, Pastor Jackson. You better get with the program, though, about sanctification. Most Lutherans today, like their Arminian heros, teach that we sanctify ourselves.

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GJ - I kelmed that from Martin Luther.

Fake Blogger In Panic Mode

Fox Valley Jimmy said...
Jackson responded to the last post with more hearsay. Oh there's no official report about it, but peopls say stuff to him. When I am able to compare facts that he offers to reality, it's generally a half truth or a garbled remembering on his part of a past event. Case-in-point: Jackson made reference to a former blog (possibly associated with this one, I don't know) which parodied him. I personally thought it was pretty funny. In any case, it had a picture on it of a cat with its head in the toilet with the names of the Jackson cultists photo-shoped on to it's (sic> body. Jackson remembers this as a cartoon of his cultists "eating cat feces." This is utterly false - but one can see how his memory got garbled on this point. Whenever I read gossip on the Ichabod, I usually think its a grabled version of some event to fit Jackson's narrative of the fall of American Lutheranism.

BTW, I am not ignorant of the reference of Ichabod to 1 Samuel. The fact that he now claims that it is a reference to the departure of the means of grace is rather odd since 1.) After having looked through quite a lot of Lutheran theologians I have found no identification of the means of grace and the divine kabod or glory. 2.) It makes no sense. American Lutheranism has not lost the means of grace. As bad as American Lutheranism can be at times, the means of grace are still present creating faith. Luther claimed this was also true of the Roman Catholic church, despite its massive level of corruption.

Jackson's hatred of American Lutheranism has primarily to do with A. His need to feel smarter than everyone else. B. His sense of personal rejection by the established Lutheran Churches. They in effect to failed recognize his theological clap-trap as brilliant in the way he believed it was. His response to invent a make-believe conspiracy narrative where the Churches were all poisoned by UOJ- why else would they reject him? That leaves him and his small band of followers as the only enlightened people who can see the truth of the gospel- thereby validating his brilliance and orthodoxy against everyone else. It's an oddly transparent self-defense mechnanism.

Jackson will doubtless response to this with a series of childish insults and non-sequiturs. It's interesting to me that he thinks that self-justifying, hyper self-defensive, psychotic rage-filled rants are somehow convincing.

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GJ - I kept the graphics, which are not what Tim's friend (or Tim) claims. They show a scatological obsession, a real mental disorder. The speed of their disappearance says a lot.

The vague and anonymous disclaimers above mean nothing. The murder of Mrs. Tabor is part of the legal record. What the chief of police said was broadcast on TV. VP Huebner's father testified on behalf of the murdering Al Just at the trial where Just was justly convicted. That also is a matter of record.

WELS lying is axiomatic, not only from their training in GA and covering up for criminal friends, but more importantly from their opinion that they were born forgiven and saved. The current fake blog claims I endorse UOJ but criticizes me for publishes against their precious doctrine. So many contradictions are the sign of a booze-befuddled mind, a rock-hard liver, and soulless deceiver.

When is Tim's blog going to have anything edifying in it? Many are worried about his emotional state. Plagiarizing and lying about it takes it toll, even if the spineless DP approves.

Quote - After having looked through quite a lot of Lutheran theologians I have found no identification of the means of grace and the divine kabod or glory.



"The doctrine of the means of grace is a peculiar glory of Lutheran theology. To this central teaching it owes its sanity and strong appeal, its freedom from sectarian tendencies and morbid fanaticism, its coherence and practicalness, and its adaptation to men of every race and every degree of culture. The Lutheran Confessions bring out with great clearness the thought of the Reformers upon this subject."
"Grace, Means of," The Concordia Cyclopedia, L. Fuerbringer, Th. Engelder, P. E. Kretzmann, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1927, p. 299.

I have quoted this many times, with the observation that the Olde Synodical Conference has forgotten the Means of Grace in their Enthusiasm for such clowns as Groeschel, Driscoll, Stetzer, Sweet, and C. Peter Wagner.

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