Adolph Hoenecke - On the Word and Holy Spirit

"Aus dem allen folgt die Verwerflichkeit des schwarmgeistlichen Grundsatzes, dass der Geist wirke ohne die Schrift. Geist nicht ohne Schrift, Schrift nicht ohne Geist, das is gesunde Lehre.

From this follows the repudiation of Pentecostal principles, that the Spirit works without the Scriptures. Spirit not without the Word, the Word not without the Spirit - that is sound doctrine.)"
Adolf Hoenecke, Evangelische-Lutherische Dogmatik, 4 vols., ed., Walter and Otto Hoenecke, Milwaukee: Northwestern Publishing House, 1912, IV, p. 17.

WELS at War Against Its Most Honored--And Forgotten--Theologian, Hoenecke

"Those who defend a false union assert that while practicing unionistic fellowship one can still cling firmly to the true confession, that unionism is not then synonymous with indifferentism. This is an illusion, even as experience has sufficiently shown that a false union opens the doors wide to indifferentism. And how could it be otherwise?"
Adolf Hoenecke, Dogmatik III, p. 441f.
Carl Lawrenz, Chairman, Commission on Doctrinal Matters, Fellowship Then and Now, Concerning the Impasse in the Intersynodical Discussions on Church Fellowship, p. 31.

Gorillas in Our Midst."They Scream and Pound Their Chests When They Are Most Afraid." Claude Shoulders, Wild Animal Trainer

 bored has left a new comment on your post "Do Not Discuss This in Cyberspace -Because Only Ku...":

Good for you Joe.

I mean, in such circumstances nothing can be taken with abject joy, but it was good for to give the members of the congregation something to think about. After all, they, by remaining in the church are party to the unscrupulous behavior by the Pastor, and their consciences should be afflicted by the truth. Likely Pastor Patterson will lie and obfuscate to make himself look like the Saint, but by giving the other congregants access to the full story, you will have sharpened their wits and increased their ability to discern. Good job.


Scott E. Jungen has left a new comment on your post "Patterson and Glende Became Facebook Friends in Ma...":

Grumpy,
Thank you for your concern. I just got a new job this last week. I will be making piston rings. One of the reasons I post here and use my name is because my teaching days are done. To be blunt, the last thing I want right now is a call. I will be missing my 35th MLS reunion because of this new job. So they still invite me, even though they know me!
There have been no attempts so far to "Krohn" me (a new "Icha-word"?). My new pastor does know I am an Intrepid Lutheran, but that's about it. So far, no "left foot of fellowship".

Scott E. Jungen



LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Patterson and Glende Became Facebook Friends in Ma...":

Scott...you really need to get your nose in the Icha-slang Lexicon...It is left 'boot' of fellowship. BTW...it didn't even hurt...I knew it was coming and made sure I had the Word of God in between me and the boot...kind of like when I was a kid and there was a spanking coming...I'd stick a little extra padding in one of my back pockets and make sure I turned my cheek in the direction of the spanking :O Hope the new job works out well for you!!

Scott E. Jungen has left a new comment on your post "Patterson and Glende Became Facebook Friends in Ma...":

Joe,
Mea culpa. You're right, I do need to brush-up on my Icha-slang! Thank you for the encouragement, it is nice to be employed full-time again.

Scott E. Jungen

Appleton's Premier Groeschel Plagiarist Apes Pope Paul the Unlearned.Lazy Man's Gospel

A Taste of His Own Medicine- From Tim the Anonymous Bully

Rev. Paul McCain of Concordia Publishing House in St. Louis has written some scathing remarks about Dr. Gregory L. Jackson, PhD on Luther Quest, a discussion forum of mostly LCMS pastors. McCain has referred to Jackson as a cult leader, who celebrates Communion through his Internet worship services by having his listeners partake of bread and wine after he has said the Words of Institution online. With McCain's comments, Jackson is getting a taste of his own medicine.

We have long thought Jackson was a wolf in sheep's clothing, especially with his denial of universal objective justification. McCain has it right, that Jackson cannot understand this comforting Biblical doctrine because of his non-Lutheran and liberal-Lutheran theological education.

Followers of Greg Jackson, we have mentioned on Ichabod how you need to beware of this deceiver. Maybe you will finally realize who you're following when he wants you to all move to Guyana with him, and the favorite beverage is Kool-Aid.

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GJ - Tim forgot - he shares McCain's need to attack, using my departed daughters, Bethany and Erin Joy. Glende and McCain write their own character references.

And they both adore UOJ.

LQ dominatrix - huge fan base: five or six underemployed guys.



Scott E. Jungen has left a new comment on your post "Appleton's Premier Groeschel Plagiarist Apes Pope ...":

OK, I get it now! It is better to belong to his church and get excommunicated!

Scott E. Jungen

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Medium Rare wrote:

I'm thinking UOJ is a lazy man's gospel. You don't have to tell the whole story.
In this 'puffed up world", where self esteem is called good and humility called bad, the Truth is a tough sell. If the preacher is without trust in the efficacy of the Word, I think he or "she" would be inclined to go with the easy story.

Bored Commends Joe Krohn

bored has left a new comment on your post "Do Not Discuss This in Cyberspace -Because Only Ku...":

Good for you Joe.

I mean, in such circumstances nothing can be taken with abject joy, but it was good for to give the members of the congregation something to think about. After all, they, by remaining in the church are party to the unscrupulous behavior by the Pastor, and their consciences should be afflicted by the truth. Likely Pastor Patterson will lie and obfuscate to make himself look like the Saint, but by giving the other congregants access to the full story, you will have sharpened their wits and increased their ability to discern. Good job.