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Saturday, April 12, 2014
Palm Sunday - Chesterton's Donkey Poem

The Donkey -
A poem by G.K. Chesterton
WHEN fishes flew and forests walked
And figs grew upon thorn,
Some moment when the moon was blood
Then surely I was born.
With monstrous head and sickening cry
And ears like errant wings,
The devil's walking parody
On all four-footed things.
The tattered outlaw of the earth,
Of ancient crooked will,
Starve, scourge, deride me I am dumb,
I keep my secret still.
Fools, for I also had my hour,
One far fierce hour and sweet,
There was a shout about my ears
And palms before my feet.
Kelmed from Norman Teigen
KJV John 12:9 Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus'
sake only, but that they might see Lazarus also, whom he had raised from the dead. 10 But the chief
priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death; 11 Because that by reason of him many of the
Jews went away, and believed on Jesus. 12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast,
when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, 13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to
meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. 14 And
Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold,thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
16 These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they haddone these things unto him. 17 The people therefore that was with him when he called Lazarus out of hisgrave, and raised him from the dead, bare record. 18 For this cause the people also met him, for that theyheard that he had done this miracle.
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Lillo versus the Facts about The CORE
Breaking news - from someone who researches the facts - "Records indicate actual purchase price of the CORE building as $435,000."
Newspaper account about the purchase of the bankrupt bar, now The CORE.
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Lenski commented on the entire New Testament, not just Romans 4:25 |
Fox Valley WELS Pastor Joel Lillo wrote in his "final" message:
One more thing... It didn't cost WELS Extension Fund nearly the $500,000 you claim it spent purchasing the present CORE building. That's just what the asking price of the building was. It was purchased for significantly less than that and WELS' share was even less than that since the congregation put up most of the purchase price in offerings and loans that will be repaid. This won't matter to you, though, since you never let facts get in the way of a good story.
If the reader examines the newspaper account linked above and here, the facts contradict Lillo's spin. The story reveals the purchase price to be less than the asking price of $850,000 and closer to the fair market value of $523,000.
Worth noting - Lillo claimed he knew nothing about Ski - the Mark Schroeder escape clause. But then he knew everything about Ski and the wonderful way that was handled - not mentioning the excommunication of an honest member and the four-way lawsuit against another member. When did Lillo become an expert on St. Peter finances, WELS finances, and the diabolical lies told by the newspaper?
The story speaks of a WELS grant and a WELS loan, both to buy the failed bar and to remodel and fumigate it.
Few readers think that St. Peter in Freedom, with an annual budget over $1.4 million, needs loans or grants from WELS. When greedy pastors soak up the loot for themselves, nothing is left for real missions. The CORE was phony mission from the start, with a gargantuan appetite for Other People's Money.
Oi - Savoy!
WELS and Tim Glende want the Savoy, Illinois stories to disappear. Tim managed to bully WELS into giving him a blank check to get rid of Bethlehem Lutheran Church, a successful campus church (which the Eastern Orthodox now use and love). He had to have his Coffee Bar of Bethlehem instead.
WELS warned him against it, but he got his way, doubtless helped by Vicarage Supervisor Mark Jeske (Church and Changer) and Uncle John Brug (Sausage Factory).
Tim ran from his Savoy mistake before it was finished - to get a sinecure from Ron Ash, chairman of Church and Change. Now his first big project is in foreclosure. Soon WELS leaders will deny there was a Coffee Bar of Bethlehem in Savoy.
Gurgle - The SP Who Cannot Spell or Balance the Books
WELS supports goofs like Glende and Gurgle. Don Patterson's current assistant managed to waste the MilCraft estate as the District President. Gurgle was so bad that the "conservatives" anointed him their dream candidate to replace the retiring Carl Mischke. Gurgle managed to do the same - and then some - with the massive Marvin Schwan indulgence. Gurgle was encouraged to resign or learn how to make license plates at government expense.
Mark Schroeder the Bookkeeper took over with promises about finding the missing $8 million and building the MLC chapel.
But Piepenbrink walked off with about $300k - after Mark Schroeder had WELS spend $250k on "financial controls."
Conservative Babylon blogs Piepenbrink
Sentenced: Leon Piepenbrink, 52, former pastor,Shepherd of the Hills, Inver Grove Heights, Minnesota, to one year in jail, 20 years’ probation, one year work release and 60 hours’ community service, and ordered to pay an as-yet undetermined amount in restitution, for embezzling about $300,000 from the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS). In April, Piepenbrink pleaded guilty to seven counts of theft by swindle. He claimed he took the money to “help the needy.” Story: Fox 9, May 4, 2011; Pioneer Press, July 24, 2012
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"I was helping the needy." |
Friday, April 11, 2014
ELCA NW Minnesota Synod Bookkeeper - Keeps $700,000 for Himself.
Is This Worse Than Giving Away $500,000+ for a Bankrupt Bar/?
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ELCA Bookkeeper Makes a Mint
by Jim Monk
MOORHEAD, Minn. (KFGO-AM) - Prosecutors have reached a plea agreement with a Wolverton, Minn. man accused of embezzling $700,000 from the ELCA's Northwestern Minnesota Synod.
The agreement calls for Robert Larson to serve four years in prison and to pay back the stolen money.
“That’s an upward departure from Minnesota sentencing guidelines” according to Assistant Clay County Attorney Heidi Davies. “We came to that agreement based on the amount of money that was stolen, his abuse of a position of trust, as well as the long period of time that the theft took place over.”
The plea agreement also says Larson’s wife will not be prosecuted.
Larson was a bookkeeper for the synod. He stole the money by forging checks made out to himself and his wife.
Much of the money was used to remodel Larson's home. The house has been put up for sale to help pay for the restitution.
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http://nwmnsynod.org/crime-insurance-coverage-update/Crime Insurance Coverage Update
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:
I am pleased to announce, on behalf of the synod executive committee, that the Northwestern Minnesota Synod has received a total of $590,012.72 from the crime insurance coveragethat the synod has through the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. An initial payment of $50,000 was received last May, and $540,012.72 was received in November while I was visiting our companion synod in India.
This means that the synod has received from its insurers 77.5% of the funds believed to have been misappropriated from the synod by the former synod bookkeeper, Robert D. Larson. This is a significant payment of funds by the synod’s insurers to partially cover the dollars that were misappropriated by Mr. Larson between September 1, 2004 and January 2, 2012 (the day his employment was terminated).
With regard to the $590,012.72 that has been received, the synod executive committee has decided:
- To make a payment in the amount of $259,951.68 to the ELCA Hunger Appeal before the end of this month. This represents the amount of funds that were given by congregations of the synod for the ELCA Hunger Appeal during fiscal years 2009, 2010 and 2011 but were not properly remitted by Mr. Larson to the ELCA Hunger Appeal.
- To retain the remaining $330,061.04 in a synod restricted fund, pending discovery of other ways in which the misappropriation of funds harmed synod and/or ELCA churchwide ministries. This will include a close examination of financial records for the ELCA Hunger Appeal during the fiscal years 2004 through 2008. (Note: $250,000 of this $330,061.04 will be invested immediately in the ELCA Mission Investment Fund so that these dollars can be put back to work on behalf of the congregations and ministries of our church.)
This settlement reflects the full amount of funds which, according to the forensic audit, were misappropriated from the synod and paid to (or on behalf of) Mr. Larson. The remaining 22.5% ($170,632.09), while allegedly misappropriated from the synod by Mr. Larson and transferred to Rural Life Outreach, cannot be demonstrated to have directly benefited Mr. Larson, based on the forensic audit. (Note: Rural Life Outreach was dissolved last May. At that time the organization basically had no remaining financial assets. Rural Life Outreach did not carry crime insurance coverage.)
The synod intends to seek restoration of the remaining $170,632.09. At this point the synod executive committee plans to
- Monitor the progress of criminal charges (still pending) against Mr. Larson in the hope that a legal judgment will be made against him that will lead to the complete restoration of all misappropriated funds; and
- Reserve the right to sue Mr. Larson for any misappropriated funds that have yet to be recovered, following conclusion of the criminal proceedings against him.
In the meantime, members of the synod support staff in collaboration with our bookkeeper at Fiebiger, Swanson, West & Co. will continue to identify specific ways that the misappropriation of funds harmed ministries of the Northwestern Minnesota Synod and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Although at times this painstaking work seems akin to hunting for a needle in a haystack, we believe we will be able to discover additional effects of the misappropriation of funds by Mr. Larson.
Although receipt of this significant insurance settlement does not mean that we have concluded our response to the misappropriation of synod funds by Mr. Larson, it is a significant milestone in our journey toward such a conclusion. As we conclude nearly a year of investigation of and response to this embezzlement (not to mention the rebuilding of our synod financial operation), I want to express gratitude to the partners who have made it possible for us to reach this milestone:
- The members of our synod staff who late last December discovered and reported evidence that an embezzlement had been taking place;
- Members of the synod staff, synod council and synod executive committee who have given me wise advice and unfailing support;
- The forensic audit team at Eide Bailly;
- The Moorhead police department;
- The ELCA Churchwide organization which provides the crime coverage insurance for our synod and the other 64 synods of the ELCA;
- Members of the ELCA Office of the Secretary staff who have advised us throughout this experience;
- Members of the synod staff and Fiebiger, Swanson, West & Co who continue to explore specific ways the embezzlement diminished our ministries;
- You, the people of our synod, who have continued to offer yourselves, your trust, your prayers and your financial support for the mission and ministry of our Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and our synod.
God bless these holy days of wonder and joy as we celebrate again the coming of Immanuel—God With Us.
In Christ,
Bishop Lawrence R. Wohlrabe
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Synod Council updated on Embezzlement
Members of the NW MN Synod Council (the synod’s board of directors) met on February 4th at North Buffalo Lutheran Church, rural Moorhead. They spent considerable time learning about and discussing the situation involving embezzlement of synod funds by former synod bookkeeper Robert Larson, whose position on the synod staff was terminated on January 2, 2012. The disclosure letter regarding the embezzlement that was mailed to all congregations on January 6, 2012 is now posted on the synod website.
Bishop Wohlrabe introduced the discussion by reporting that the synod appears to have ended the 2011 fiscal year “in the black,” with mission support giving having exceeded the anticipated budgetary amount by nearly $50,000. These are “unofficial” figures at this point, though a final report will be available for the synod assembly, May 11-12, 2012.
Synod council members heard an update on the forensic audit from two staff persons, Brett Johnson and Alex Schroeder, both of Eide Bailly LLP, Fargo. Johnson gave some indication of the size and scope of the embezzlement, though specific dollar amounts cannot be released until the forensic audit is completed. Bishop Wohlrabe also updated the synod council members about the status of criminal charges against Mr. Larson and progress in making a claim for recovery of funds with the synod’s insurers. He stated that the new financial operation—involving a bookkeeper “out-sourced” with Fiebiger, Swanson, West & Co—is coming together very well.
Council members discussed several steps to help people of the synod understand the synod’s financial situation and enhance trust among synod and congregational leaders, including:
- Setting aside up to 40 minutes of “committee of the whole” discussion time to discuss the embezzlement situation during synod assembly;
- Having the bishop and/or members of the synod pastoral staff visit all ten conferences prior to synod assembly; and
- Establishing a new synod Audit Committee to monitor the synod’s financial policies and procedures.
In other matters, members of the synod council
- Appointed Dr. Paul Dovre to 3-year term on the Board of Directors of Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota;
- Voted to divide all worship offerings at synod assembly between the synod’s seminarian scholarship fund and Lutheran World Relief;
- Passed two continuing resolutions to the synod’s constitution, bylaws and continuing resolutions pertaining to changes in the process for electing a synod bishop; and
- Forwarded a resolution from the ELCA Malaria Campaign team to the synod’s Committee on Reference and Counsel.
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http://www.thelutheran.org/article/article.cfm?article_id=11308
God's Work - Our Sticky Fingers
Another embezzler charged
Robert D. Larson, 61, a former bookkeeper for the Northwestern Minnesota Synod, was charged with felony theft and check forgery inClay County [Minn.] District Court March 1. Larson was terminated in January 2012 after he confessed to embezzling synod funds from 2004 to 2011. Synod staff discovered the embezzlement in December 2011, and a forensic audit established that Larson took $760,000 from the synod, said Bishop Lawrence Wohlrabe. The synod received a payment of more than $590,000 (what could be verified that Larson pocketed for himself) from insurance provided for synods through the ELCA. Larson's predecessor, Rosemarie Johnk, was terminated in May 2004 for using the synod's credit to make nearly $24,000 in unauthorized purchases.
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$500,000+ given by WELS to St. Peter in Freedom, WI to buy it, even more loaned to remodel and fumigate it. Fortunately the nameplate was removable. |
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GJ - If people knew how many millions were wasted by their synods and stolen by their volunteers and staffers, they would not give a dime.
The worse the crimes, the more likely they will be covered up and forgotten, with a handy promotion or transfer. But if someone talks about the truth, the same cover-up artists will stomp him into the ground.
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Tim Glende Orders WELS - "Find the Leak and Plug It!"
Apparently Lillo was drawing fire for telling such big lies about Ski, Glende, and the Anything Goes District. WELS has nothing against lying. After all, SP Mark Schroeder did not know about Joel Hochmuth, did not receive a letter, etc...
Glende's ego is so fragile that he cannot stand to have people read about his colossal flop at his only solo job. Fresh out of seminary, he bullied WELS into redeveloping (handing him a pile of money) to sell off a successful campus church - to build a coffee bar church outside of town.
Glende, Vicar Supervisor Jeske, and Uncle John Brug won, so the Eastern Orthodox got a choice piece of property for a bargain and Bethlehem Lutheran went into rental status. By the time Coffee Bar of Bethlehem was building in Savoy, Glende was a-packing for Freedom, Wisconsin.
Now WELS is foreclosing on Coffee Bar of Bethlehem. No one is supposed to know this. The synod, the district, the Mission Board, and Glende want everyone in the dark. Although there is an obvious connection between the bullying of Glende and the spinelessness of WELS, flushing it all down the Memory Hole of Synod is supposed to leave young Tim as the Great Builder of Churches.
Did he not get a free bar in downtown Appleton?
Not exactly free. The bar, which closed down twice in a very wet town, was bought with over $500,000 in Mission Board funds and given to St. Peter in Freedom.
The suckers in WELS bought Glende and Ski a bar.
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"There's no knowing where we're going, and the members we'll keep snowing." |
Thursday, April 10, 2014
Noah - The Righteousness of Faith
Brett Meyer and I are looking for Biblical or Confessional examples of the righteousness of unfaith.
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Halle University's George Mueller Bares His Fangs at the Mention of Justification by Faith.
Brett Meyer (Brett_meyer) Intermediate Member Username: Brett_meyer Post Number: 202 Registered: 1-2008 |
I appreciate your consideration and discussion Mr. Gorman. Rev. Boisclair states, "I cannot believe that ELDoNA would look kindly on the extreme views of Brett Meyer and Gregory Jackson, whose doctrine goes beyond the ELDoNA theses to the point of even denying the biblical doctrine of universal reconciliation and forgiveness." I thought we cleared that up for you in my comment dated Sunday, March 23, 2014 - 12:52 pm. Your response was, "Brett, well I guess that ELDoNA's doctrine is even worse than I thought!" Rev. Boisclair, discussions like this one are excellent means of instructing readers as to the teachings of the doctrine of UOJ. When I post direct quotes from the Christian Book of Concord that reject the teachings of UOJ I am challenged by each of you indicating that I am misinterpreting the Confessions. Where is the difinitive BOC style document for your chief article of your religion that everyone can read to learn what UOJ teaches and what it rejects? You claim that without OJ there is no Gospel. Then where is the Confessional document concerning this "heart"? I will even allow a step back from the BOC and ask where is Martin Luther's published book on the "heart of the Gospel" - UOJ? In Christ, Brett Meyer | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() George Mueller (Mueller) Senior Member Username: Mueller Post Number: 1369 Registered: 11-2012 |
Brett, your questions are dishonest and insincere. I showed you how AC IV taught objective justification shortly after you came onto this website spewing out your propaganda. I showed you a couple of times, in fact. I pointed out how the text of AC IV teaches that the object of justifying faith is the gospel that says "that they are received into favor and that their sins are forgiven on account of Christ, who by his death made satisfaction for our sins." Throughout this long conversation you have denied that anyone's sins are forgiven on account of Christ, who by his death made satisfaction for them until he believes. You have argued that sins are not forgiven until one believes. The Augsburg Confession says that one is to believe that his sins are forgiven for Christ's sake, who by his death made satisfaction for them. You've denied it and denied it and denied it. You reject the clear teaching of the Book of Concord. When we Lutherans define justifying faith as believing that one's sins are forgiven for Christ's sake, who by his death has made satisfaction for them, you deny this object of faith in unbelief, arguing that nobody's sins are forgiven until he believes, thus taking away from faith its foundation in the gospel. You promote your poisonous error as Jackson, Stefanski, and other cowardly errorists look on, none of them having the courage to step into this forum to debate. They will only debate when they control the forum of the debate. Typical of sectarian errorists! Brett, you are brainwashed. You don't argue. You just repeat canned arguments without in any way responding to the arguments posed against you. But I respond to you in order to answer the false teachers like Jackson, Rydecki, Stefanski, and Heiser. We who have shown you to be wrong on this forum have shown them to be wrong as well. So, while they won't come here to debate, we've refuted them by refuting you. I have shown you from the Augsburg Confession that you reject the Lutheran doctrine. What does justifying faith believe according to AC IV? You deny it, and so do Rydecki, Jackson, Heiser, Stefanski, and all the other sacerdotalists who lurk on this website but lack the courage to engage in an honest debate. | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Daniel Gorman (Heinrich) Senior Member Username: Heinrich Post Number: 2198 Registered: 11-2004 |
Dave Schumacher: "If a person denies the central article yet, is not excommunicated by the Christian congregation, he goes to Heaven?" "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly." Athanasian Creed Hypocrites and wicked men who have not been consigned to hell by a Christian congregation are mingled with the Church. "For we grant that in this life hypocrites and wicked men have been mingled with the Church, and that they are members of the Church according to the outward fellowship of the signs of the Church, i.e., of Word, profession, and Sacraments, especially if they have not been excommunicated." Ap, Of the Church | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joe Krohn (Jekster) Intermediate Member Username: Jekster Post Number: 239 Registered: 4-2011 |
Brett, you have not answered my question. Do you forgive those who sin against you regardless of whether or not they formally repent to you? | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Brett Meyer (Brett_meyer) Intermediate Member Username: Brett_meyer Post Number: 203 Registered: 1-2008 |
George, your interpretation of the BOC passages goes against the clear Scriptural and BOC teaching that Christ is only apprehended as Mediator and Propitiation through the gracious gift of faith (Christ's righteousness) alone. Without Christ to Mediate and Propitiate God's wrath over man's sin God does not, in any way, view the unbelieving world as being forgiven or righteous - much less making a divine declaration of the same. You talk about this forum as though it was the hub of all religious discussion - it isn't. You state, "They will only debate when they control the forum of the debate. Typical of sectarian errorists!" How many times have you, George Mueller, commented on Pastor Jackson's blog? You need to read the conversation over again, and the one from November 2013 and the one from 2008 to show that I respond to 98% of all questions posed to me on LutherQuest. In Christ, Brett Meyer | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joe Krohn (Jester) Intermediate Member Username: Jekster Post Number: 240 Registered: 4-2011 |
I guess my question is in the 2%. Pity. I thought it was legit... | ||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() R.D. (Ryan11676) Intermediate Member Username: Ryan11676 Post Number: 408 Registered: 2-2006 |
" How many times have you, George Mueller, commented on Pastor Jackson's blog? " I know you're not asking me. I personally would not comment on Greg Jackson's blog because I just don't want to look at bad photoshop pictures, even if they're funny sometimes. I mean really, how many pictures of Paul McCain in a mitre do you need? [GJ - We also have lactation and pants on fire graphics, depending on the occasion.] |
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GJ - George Mueller sounds exactly like Rolf Preus, who seems strangely absent from LQ since he rejoined the LCMS - after leaving the LCMS, the Little Sect, and the Rolf Synod. Verbal abuse is no substitute for good argumentation. All he has to offer is a series of accusations accompanied by unwarranted claims.
That reminds me of a famous example from the practice of law. "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither one on your side, pound the table."
George-Rolf is a table-pounder.
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