Church and Change Leading the Sheep

How Can Church and Change Lead the Sheep?

The spin-doctors of The Love Shack worked overtime to rescue Church and Change, the official WELS Apostasy Lobby, from the ash-heap of fad projects.

The group was so obnoxious that the word went out from the Gurgel administration that C and C was no more, dissolved, gone, scattered like dry autumn leaves. Apostates in WELS were distraught. "Who will feed the sheep to our Father Below? Who will beat them and fleece them?"

Before anyone knew it, Church and Change was grandfathered. Sure, they are iffy at best, but they are old and iffy, hence grandfathered. While people were still claiming that Church and Change was gone, Church and Change was advertising its conference on the offical WELS website.

Looking back in history, we can see how convenient it is to grandfather apostasy.

Augustine against Pelagianism: "Roma locuta est. Causa finita est. Rome has spoken. The case is closed."

Rome: "No, we have grandfathered Pelagianism. We know salvation by works is wrong, but they have been around for some time, several years in fact."

Augustine: "Oh."

Comments on Church and Change Upcoming Debacle

The Antichrist sets himself up in the Temple of God, but there are many little antichrists as well.

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John said...
Isn't it odd that Rev. Ash directs you to the church and change website to register. You go there and then you are redirected to the wels.net site to complete your registration.

I will anxiously await a review of the convention. Are any readers out there innovative enough to say that "yes" I am going?

If you do go I will post your unedited thoughts on bailingwater.

October 2, 2007 6:28 PM


Norman Teigen said...
An ELS pastor was going to attend the C & C conference but cancelled when another ELS pastor accused him and the WELS of false doctrine re C & C.

Isn't this a little bit crazy? It seems so to me. I wrote in my blog that I was getting false doctrine fatigue from all of this.

Norman Teigen
ELS layman

October 2, 2007 7:05 PM


John said...
For those of you wishing to purchase the DVD collection of the Church and Change conference, Rev. Ash has announced that for "a variety of reasons we will not be taping the conference."

October 8, 2007 5:46 PM

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GJ - Church and Change (Official WELS Apostasy Lobby) acted as if the convention resolution was encouraging their efforts to undermine Lutheran doctrine and practice.

President-in-Waiting Wayne Mueller was famous for never providing a written record of his talks. Whenever someone objected to his false doctrine, he said, "You misunderstood me." As I showed before, all the Church Growth false teachers begin with one concept and then write just the opposite. Look for the furtive but.
"We all know that the Word alone is effective, but..."

Those who view the Church and Change propaganda will see a number of husband and wife "ministry teams." They usually look like they inhaled helium too long before posing for their photos. Ministry teams are a way to slip women's ordination in the back door.

WELS is not alone in finessing these issues. I recall a non-worship worship service where Al Barry listened to a husband and wife lead a Bible study. One could almost say it was a woman teaching men, but no, the event was presented by the spin-doctors as something other than worship. The late Al Barry, the ultimate Chameleon Lutheran, did not object. However, when he spoke to the conservatives who fought to elect him, he was wroth. "Some said I should not even meet with you. But I am the president of all the people in the Missouri Synod." How touching to have His Grace speak to our little leper colony!